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I sure hope thats a hint from JW!

Instagram - bondclothes007

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welshboy78 wrote:

I sure hope thats a hint from JW!

I second that,  bring back jw as Leiter  ajb007/martini

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Chriscoop wrote:
welshboy78 wrote:

I sure hope thats a hint from JW!

I second that,  bring back jw as Leiter  ajb007/martini

I hope so too. Although I wonder how much we can realistically read into that given how tight-lipped everyone is being.

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Maybe we are reading too much into it,  but on his tweet he asks " eh who is this brother?  " the answer is of course a brother from Langley  ajb007/biggrin
I'm hopeful.  I had hoped Leiter would be back in sp after being missing from sf but sadly jw wasn't on mendes wish list  ajb007/crap

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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I hope he's back too!  We're due to see Felix and Jeffrey Wright's portrayal is my favorite by far!

You're that English secret agent from England

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Jeffrey Wright hints on Instagram thet he'll return as Leiter. I hope he will  ajb007/bond

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSrtz2vAdf2/

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No kidding?

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Number24 wrote:

Jeffrey Wright hints on Instagram thet he'll return as Leiter. I hope he will  ajb007/bond

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSrtz2vAdf2/

I'm not seeing any hints, just fond memories.

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It's a matter of how it's interpreted and I'm being optimistic, I know  ajb007/smile

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I agree that JW is the best Felix Leiter ever!

I hope he is in the next film.  Just reading whatever I want into this picture... is he asking who is this brother because he sees a Bond that isn't DC?

Hmmmmmm.

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A rather good article in The NY Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/busi … ipad-share NYTimes: Studios Compete for Rights to Distribute Bond Franchise

LOS ANGELES — A five-studio tug of war has broken out over James Bond.
For more than a decade, starting with “Casino Royale” in 2006, the superspy series has been based at Sony Pictures Entertainment. It has been a period of stability and prosperity for 007, as global ticket sales reached new heights. The four Bond films that Sony has released collected $3.5 billion at the worldwide box office, after adjusting for inflation.
But Sony’s contract to market and distribute the films expired in 2015 with “Spectre.” So the two companies that control the franchise but do not distribute their own films — Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and the family-run Eon Productions — have started attending dog and pony shows put on by studios that want the rights, according to five people briefed on the sessions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.
On Tuesday, for instance, leaders at Sony spent an hour making their case. Kazuo Hirai, the chief executive, helped give the pitch, which emphasized the studio’s deep knowledge of Bond and its ideas for expanding the franchise’s reach. In true Hollywood fashion, Sony gave its presentation inside a sound stage on a recreated set from “Dr. No,” which was released in the United States in 1963 by United Artists and laid the foundation for the entire series.
Also vying for the Bond deal — even though it pays surprisingly little — are Warner Bros., Universal Pictures, 20th Century Fox and Annapurna, an ambitious upstart financed and led by the Oracle heiress Megan Ellison. (Not competing for the business are Paramount, which has been struggling and recently hired a new chairman, and Walt Disney Studios, which has been on a box office hot streak by focusing on its own family film labels.)
MGM and Eon, which stands for Everything or Nothing, are only offering a one-film contract. The expired Sony deal was for four movies. MGM, which is owned by private equity firms, including Anchorage Capital Partners, probably wants to keep its options open as it considers a sale or public offering.
Casting for the franchise has not been discussed in the meetings, according to the people briefed on them, although producers hope Daniel Craig will play the lead for at least one more chapter. He has a gap on his docket, according to movie industry databases, that would allow for filming.
Representatives for MGM, Eon and the studios pursuing the rights either had no comment or did not return calls.
The eagerness to land Bond underscores the continuing strength of the series but also the realities of the modern movie business. As competition for leisure time increases, studios have focused more intently on global blockbusters, and those are in short supply. In some ways, the Bond series was the first to go after a worldwide audience.
Yet the deal that studios are hotly chasing is not very profitable.
Under its previous agreement, Sony paid 50 percent of the production costs for “Spectre” — which totaled some $250 million after accounting for government incentives — but only received 25 percent of certain profits, once costs were recouped. Sony also shouldered tens of millions of dollars in marketing and had to give MGM a piece of the profit from non-Bond films Sony had in its own pipeline, including “22 Jump Street.”
In a 2014 email stolen by hackers and widely published online, Andrew Gumpert, who then oversaw business affairs for Sony, figured that the studio would realize about $38 million in profit if “Spectre” performed as “Skyfall” did. And “Spectre” did not, taking in $881 million, about 20 percent less than “Skyfall,” which was released in 2012.
Why, then, do studios want to distribute Bond so badly? Bragging rights, mostly. Having a Bond movie on the schedule guarantees at least one hit in a business where there is almost no sure thing.
Bond is gargantuan: The 25 movies have taken in nearly $6 billion at the North American box office, after adjusting for inflation, according to Box Office Mojo. The series has generated billions more in overseas ticket sales, home entertainment revenue, television reruns, marketing partnerships (Omega watches, Aston Martin cars, Gillette razors) and video games.
For at least one suitor, Annapurna, landing Bond would be transformative. Ms. Ellison started by focusing on prestige films like “Her” and “American Hustle.” But she has been diversifying toward more commercial movies like the animated hit “Sausage Party” and recently hired a senior 20th Century Fox executive to oversee production. Last month, Annapurna signed an unrelated distribution deal with MGM.
The person Ms. Ellison and the other bidders need to impress the most is Barbara Broccoli, who runs Eon Productions. Moviemaking is a collaborative process, but Ms. Broccoli and her older half brother, Michael G. Wilson, have final say over every line of dialogue, casting decision, stunt sequence, marketing tie-in, TV ad, poster and billboard.

Dont wait for your ship to come in.  Swim out and meet the bloody thing.

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ExpatJB wrote:

A rather good article in The NY Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/busi … ipad-share NYTimes: Studios Compete for Rights to Distribute Bond Franchise

LOS ANGELES — A five-studio tug of war has broken out over James Bond.
For more than a decade, starting with “Casino Royale” in 2006, the superspy series has been based at Sony Pictures Entertainment. It has been a period of stability and prosperity for 007, as global ticket sales reached new heights. The four Bond films that Sony has released collected $3.5 billion at the worldwide box office, after adjusting for inflation.
But Sony’s contract to market and distribute the films expired in 2015 with “Spectre.” So the two companies that control the franchise but do not distribute their own films — Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and the family-run Eon Productions — have started attending dog and pony shows put on by studios that want the rights, according to five people briefed on the sessions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.
On Tuesday, for instance, leaders at Sony spent an hour making their case. Kazuo Hirai, the chief executive, helped give the pitch, which emphasized the studio’s deep knowledge of Bond and its ideas for expanding the franchise’s reach. In true Hollywood fashion, Sony gave its presentation inside a sound stage on a recreated set from “Dr. No,” which was released in the United States in 1963 by United Artists and laid the foundation for the entire series.
Also vying for the Bond deal — even though it pays surprisingly little — are Warner Bros., Universal Pictures, 20th Century Fox and Annapurna, an ambitious upstart financed and led by the Oracle heiress Megan Ellison. (Not competing for the business are Paramount, which has been struggling and recently hired a new chairman, and Walt Disney Studios, which has been on a box office hot streak by focusing on its own family film labels.)
MGM and Eon, which stands for Everything or Nothing, are only offering a one-film contract. The expired Sony deal was for four movies. MGM, which is owned by private equity firms, including Anchorage Capital Partners, probably wants to keep its options open as it considers a sale or public offering.
Casting for the franchise has not been discussed in the meetings, according to the people briefed on them, although producers hope Daniel Craig will play the lead for at least one more chapter. He has a gap on his docket, according to movie industry databases, that would allow for filming.
Representatives for MGM, Eon and the studios pursuing the rights either had no comment or did not return calls.
The eagerness to land Bond underscores the continuing strength of the series but also the realities of the modern movie business. As competition for leisure time increases, studios have focused more intently on global blockbusters, and those are in short supply. In some ways, the Bond series was the first to go after a worldwide audience.
Yet the deal that studios are hotly chasing is not very profitable.
Under its previous agreement, Sony paid 50 percent of the production costs for “Spectre” — which totaled some $250 million after accounting for government incentives — but only received 25 percent of certain profits, once costs were recouped. Sony also shouldered tens of millions of dollars in marketing and had to give MGM a piece of the profit from non-Bond films Sony had in its own pipeline, including “22 Jump Street.”
In a 2014 email stolen by hackers and widely published online, Andrew Gumpert, who then oversaw business affairs for Sony, figured that the studio would realize about $38 million in profit if “Spectre” performed as “Skyfall” did. And “Spectre” did not, taking in $881 million, about 20 percent less than “Skyfall,” which was released in 2012.
Why, then, do studios want to distribute Bond so badly? Bragging rights, mostly. Having a Bond movie on the schedule guarantees at least one hit in a business where there is almost no sure thing.
Bond is gargantuan: The 25 movies have taken in nearly $6 billion at the North American box office, after adjusting for inflation, according to Box Office Mojo. The series has generated billions more in overseas ticket sales, home entertainment revenue, television reruns, marketing partnerships (Omega watches, Aston Martin cars, Gillette razors) and video games.
For at least one suitor, Annapurna, landing Bond would be transformative. Ms. Ellison started by focusing on prestige films like “Her” and “American Hustle.” But she has been diversifying toward more commercial movies like the animated hit “Sausage Party” and recently hired a senior 20th Century Fox executive to oversee production. Last month, Annapurna signed an unrelated distribution deal with MGM.
The person Ms. Ellison and the other bidders need to impress the most is Barbara Broccoli, who runs Eon Productions. Moviemaking is a collaborative process, but Ms. Broccoli and her older half brother, Michael G. Wilson, have final say over every line of dialogue, casting decision, stunt sequence, marketing tie-in, TV ad, poster and billboard.

Great article! thanks for posting.

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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

"Any of the opposition around..?"

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The fact that MGM and EON are only discussing a deal for a single picture adds weight to my belief that Craig is coming back for one more. If the role were being recast, the producers wouldn't want the uncertainty of having to go back into the marketplace so soon. They'd want financial assurances  and time to correct course if the new Bond iunderperforms in his first outing.

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Cheverian wrote:

The fact that MGM and EON are only discussing a deal for a single picture adds weight to my belief that Craig is coming back for one more. If the role were being recast, the producers wouldn't want the uncertainty of having to go back into the marketplace so soon. They'd want financial assurances  and time to correct course if the new Bond iunderperforms in his first outing.

I thought the same thing.

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I think this all lends credence to Craig returning, although I'm sure that's still tied to some combination of (1) his payday, and (2) the quality of the script. And the payday might depend on the distribution deal.

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Oh my.....real news from a credible source. Things appear to be heating up. I agree the one picture deal would lend credence to the return of Craig for Bond 25. Only a couple of weeks left for my strictly gut based prediction of an April official announcement for Bond 25.  ajb007/smile

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Things are heating up a bit, but we still only have scraps to mull over and decipher  ajb007/crap

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Chriscoop wrote:

Things are heating up a bit, but we still only have scraps to mull over and decipher  ajb007/crap

It's definitely not much, but at least it indicates that something if finally happening. I don't think we'll hear anything about casting, director, or release dates until this distribution matter is resolved. I'm not knowledgeable of the film industry, but from my own experience, these types of negotiations usually don't play out quickly, and it sounds like they're at an early stage.

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Miles Messervy wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

Things are heating up a bit, but we still only have scraps to mull over and decipher  ajb007/crap

It's definitely not much, but at least it indicates that something if finally happening. I don't think we'll hear anything about casting, director, or release dates until this distribution matter is resolved. I'm not knowledgeable of the film industry, but from my own experience, these types of negotiations usually don't play out quickly, and it sounds like they're at an early stage.

I suspect you're right,  but I do think post production and planning are in quite an advanced stage.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Miles Messervy wrote:

I think this all lends credence to Craig returning, although I'm sure that's still tied to some combination of (1) his payday, and (2) the quality of the script. And the payday might depend on the distribution deal.

To point 2, a WGA strike is a very real possibility, and whether that results in a delay or in a rushed script, either of those things will, I suspect, result in Craig walking away.

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HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:

I think this all lends credence to Craig returning, although I'm sure that's still tied to some combination of (1) his payday, and (2) the quality of the script. And the payday might depend on the distribution deal.

To point 2, a WGA strike is a very real possibility, and whether that results in a delay or in a rushed script, either of those things will, I suspect, result in Craig walking away.

Good point about the looming strike. But if they're not looking to start filming until late 2018, I doubt it would be a factor. Who knows, maybe Michael Wilson will get his pen out and deliver a cracker like the old days!

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A WGA strike would not help things. However, a strike is a possibility, not a certainty. We also don't know how close they are to having a finished script either (more than likely not quite at this point). If there is no WGA strike or it's a short one, with the potential distributors lining up and  if Craig is back there is still a strong possibility  that we could have Bond 25 for a late fall 2018 release.  If they start shooting in January 2018 (like SPECTRE) they will have eight more months of pre-production and more than enough time to get the right director, etc. All just guesswork on my part (and a bit of wishful thinking).

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Miles Messervy wrote:
HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:

I think this all lends credence to Craig returning, although I'm sure that's still tied to some combination of (1) his payday, and (2) the quality of the script. And the payday might depend on the distribution deal.

To point 2, a WGA strike is a very real possibility, and whether that results in a delay or in a rushed script, either of those things will, I suspect, result in Craig walking away.

Good point about the looming strike. But if they're not looking to start filming until late 2018, I doubt it would be a factor. Who knows, maybe Michael Wilson will get his pen out and deliver a cracker like the old days!

For the love of God...get the script finished now!!  ajb007/insane  They have advance notice that the WGA might strike...best to leave only minor in-progress rewrites to non-writers, if it comes to that (again  ajb007/crap  ). MGW isn't the scribe he wishes he were. Very frustrating that we're looking at such a situation again already.

If Craigger comes back - great. If not, let's move on, and not waste energy on his thought process. My two cents' worth.

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I wonder if a way of getting around a writers strike would be to hire a director who is also known for their writing ability. For example, Sean Ellis who IMO could be a good choice for a Bond film both directed and co-wrote the screenplay for the excellent historical action/drama "Anthropoid".