Showing Blofeld escape is a must.
This is a rebrand of the character and they have to show that he's still got the classic villain in him and is not to be messed with. Since he'll be in the next movie or two, we gotta know he's a bad mother!
If love some bigger emphasis on gadgets again. Just little tidbits of the older films brought back, to maintain some nostalgia without sacrificing the storyline for the sake of fans of Connery and Moore.
I can't see a reboot happening either, even with a new actor in the role of Bond.
As Welshie said, too much has been put in place to make a major change now. The movies are making gazillions. And the public at large hasn't tired of the current iteration of Bond. (Even if some people here have.)
Reboots happen when the grosses begin falling off.
I can't see a reboot happening either, even with a new actor in the role of Bond.
As Welshie said, too much has been put in place to make a major change now. The movies are making gazillions. And the public at large hasn't tired of the current iteration of Bond. (Even if some people here have.)
Reboots happen when the grosses begin falling off.
Reboots happen today for creative reasons, and it seems that stories beyond origin stories have become outdated. If the Bond character cannot progress, I think many will feel that a new reboot is necessary. This is the way the film industry has been working for over a decade now.
I think the public has tired of the current Bond. The media is probably most to blame for all the talk of a new Bond actor, and Craig's negative comments (despite whatever they actually meant) have made people expect someone else to be Bond. There also are lots of people who are wondering why it is taking so long for Idris Elba's Bond film to come out, since he was cast as Bond a few years ago.
I have never met a single person who thinks Elba is cast as Bond.
Americans want him as Bond so badly that many people I've met think he's already been cast as Bond. They were surprised to see Daniel Craig as Bond in Spectre because they thought Elba was supposed to star in it. The American media have talked about him as Bond so much that people think he is Bond.
I have never met a single person who thinks Elba is cast as Bond.
Americans want him as Bond so badly that many people I've met think he's already been cast as Bond. They were surprised to see Daniel Craig as Bond in Spectre because they thought Elba was supposed to star in it. The American media have talked about him as Bond so much that people think he is Bond.
Hope the next guy doesn't end up in a Brosnan/Dalton situation.
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I have never met a single person who thinks Elba is cast as Bond.
Americans want him as Bond so badly that many people I've met think he's already been cast as Bond. They were surprised to see Daniel Craig as Bond in Spectre because they thought Elba was supposed to star in it. The American media have talked about him as Bond so much that people think he is Bond.
Hope the next guy doesn't end up in a Brosnan/Dalton situation.
I have never met a single person who thinks Elba is cast as Bond.
Americans want him as Bond so badly that many people I've met think he's already been cast as Bond. They were surprised to see Daniel Craig as Bond in Spectre because they thought Elba was supposed to star in it. The American media have talked about him as Bond so much that people think he is Bond.
Errrr--really? OK, I don't live in one of the media hubs--New York or Los Angeles--but I keep my eyes and ears tuned to Bond news and I've never encountered anything about Elba being Bond. And this goes double for SPECTRE and the lead-up to it. I'd be interested to find your sources.
I can't see a reboot happening either, even with a new actor in the role of Bond.
As Welshie said, too much has been put in place to make a major change now. The movies are making gazillions. And the public at large hasn't tired of the current iteration of Bond. (Even if some people here have.)
Reboots happen when the grosses begin falling off.
Reboots happen today for creative reasons, and it seems that stories beyond origin stories have become outdated. If the Bond character cannot progress, I think many will feel that a new reboot is necessary. This is the way the film industry has been working for over a decade now.
I think the public has tired of the current Bond. The media is probably most to blame for all the talk of a new Bond actor, and Craig's negative comments (despite whatever they actually meant) have made people expect someone else to be Bond. There also are lots of people who are wondering why it is taking so long for Idris Elba's Bond film to come out, since he was cast as Bond a few years ago.
Matt, you and I will have to agree to disagree. -{
I'm a screenwriter, novelist with film-adapted properties, and former member of the WGA. While I won't claim there is no such thing as a purely creative reboot, I can't emphasize enough how much money is behind all of this. Production companies might try to reboot a dormant property (e.g. the new McGyver) if they think they can squeeze some juice out of it. Or if the last attempt was a flop ("Star Trek: Insurrection") they might go looking for a fresh start.
What they don't do is reboot series that are earning billions of dollars. They just bring in new characters ("The Bourne Legacy," Wahlberg-era "Transformers") hoping to keep the train rolling. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
If enough time passes before the next Bond — or the actor Barb casts is someone so different from Craig (Elba!) — then they will have no choice but to reboot.
As an addendum to my last message: the one kind of reboot I could totally get behind is one set in the 1950s. I'd love to see a Fleming-era Bond going about his missions at the height of the Cold War. But that seems too artsy and risky for EON — even if it would differentiate the Bond series from every contemporary Bourne-like imitator.
I have never met a single person who thinks Elba is cast as Bond.
Americans want him as Bond so badly that many people I've met think he's already been cast as Bond. They were surprised to see Daniel Craig as Bond in Spectre because they thought Elba was supposed to star in it. The American media have talked about him as Bond so much that people think he is Bond.
Errrr--really? OK, I don't live in one of the media hubs--New York or Los Angeles--but I keep my eyes and ears tuned to Bond news and I've never encountered anything about Elba being Bond. And this goes double for SPECTRE and the lead-up to it. I'd be interested to find your sources.
The rumours of Elba as Bond started at least five years ago:
The idea of Elba being Bond has come up so much that people think he actually was cast as Bond. I don't think any other actor has been mentioned more to replace Craig.
I can't see a reboot happening either, even with a new actor in the role of Bond.
As Welshie said, too much has been put in place to make a major change now. The movies are making gazillions. And the public at large hasn't tired of the current iteration of Bond. (Even if some people here have.)
Reboots happen when the grosses begin falling off.
Reboots happen today for creative reasons, and it seems that stories beyond origin stories have become outdated. If the Bond character cannot progress, I think many will feel that a new reboot is necessary. This is the way the film industry has been working for over a decade now.
I think the public has tired of the current Bond. The media is probably most to blame for all the talk of a new Bond actor, and Craig's negative comments (despite whatever they actually meant) have made people expect someone else to be Bond. There also are lots of people who are wondering why it is taking so long for Idris Elba's Bond film to come out, since he was cast as Bond a few years ago.
Matt, you and I will have to agree to disagree. -{
I'm a screenwriter, novelist with film-adapted properties, and former member of the WGA. While I won't claim there is no such thing as a purely creative reboot, I can't emphasize enough how much money is behind all of this. Production companies might try to reboot a dormant property (e.g. the new McGyver) if they think they can squeeze some juice out of it. Or if the last attempt was a flop ("Star Trek: Insurrection") they might go looking for a fresh start.
What they don't do is reboot series that are earning billions of dollars. They just bring in new characters ("The Bourne Legacy," Wahlberg-era "Transformers") hoping to keep the train rolling. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
If enough time passes before the next Bond — or the actor Barb casts is someone so different from Craig (Elba!) — then they will have no choice but to reboot.
But I am not betting on it.
Wasn't the Craig Bond reboot for creative reasons? Die Another Day was a financial success and had done better than all of Brosnan's other films had. Bond was just jumping on the reboot bandwagon, though it was an idea MGW wanted to do before.
That's true- MGW and Richard Maibaum had wanted to do a "rookie Bond" script for TLD, with Dalton (well, initially Brosnan) replacing Moore, but Cubby Broccoli vetoed the idea.
Wasn't the Craig Bond reboot for creative reasons? Die Another Day was a financial success and had done better than all of Brosnan's other films had. Bond was just jumping on the reboot bandwagon, though it was an idea MGW wanted to do before.
I suppose that's fair.
But the circumstances around Casino Royale were extraordinary to say the least. 1. At long last, Eon had gotten hold of the first Bond novel (which is an origin story even if Bond seems fully formed in most ways pre-Vesper). 2. We forget now but the campy DAD came out the same year as Goldmember (“We had to destroy the myth because [the Austin Powers movies] fucked us,” Craig later said.) 3. Pierce was "Cubby's Bond" in that he'd wanted him for TLD and was still around for the preproduction of Goldeneye. 4. And I think Barbara, especially, wanted to escape her dead father's shadow. She took a huge risk casting Craig, no doubt about it. It took a lot of guts.
Might she do it again? Yeah, I guess it's possible. But a hard reboot risks turning the Bond series into a version of the Spider-man films. How many origin stories do we want to see?
The idea of Elba being Bond has come up so much that people think he actually was cast as Bond. I don't think any other actor has been mentioned more to replace Craig.
Matt, thanks for your reply and for putting your money where your mouth is. Yes, I'm aware of rumors of Elba, but I've never seen them go beyond rumor, and I really don't buy the idea of people in this country universally believing Elba IS Bond. Not that it matters.
The idea of Elba being Bond has come up so much that people think he actually was cast as Bond. I don't think any other actor has been mentioned more to replace Craig.
Matt, thanks for your reply and for putting your money where your mouth is. Yes, I'm aware of rumors of Elba, but I've never seen them go beyond rumor, and I really don't buy the idea of people in this country universally believing Elba IS Bond. Not that it matters.
It's certainly not a universal belief that Elba was cast as Bond, but it's certainly a widespread belief as a result of these and many more BS articles. It doesn't take much for people to believe rumours, or to misread them and think they are true.
I can't see a reboot happening either, even with a new actor in the role of Bond.
As Welshie said, too much has been put in place to make a major change now. The movies are making gazillions. And the public at large hasn't tired of the current iteration of Bond. (Even if some people here have.)
Reboots happen when the grosses begin falling off.
Reboots happen today for creative reasons, and it seems that stories beyond origin stories have become outdated. If the Bond character cannot progress, I think many will feel that a new reboot is necessary. This is the way the film industry has been working for over a decade now.
I think the public has tired of the current Bond. The media is probably most to blame for all the talk of a new Bond actor, and Craig's negative comments (despite whatever they actually meant) have made people expect someone else to be Bond. There also are lots of people who are wondering why it is taking so long for Idris Elba's Bond film to come out, since he was cast as Bond a few years ago.
Yeah I agree, as I've said before Craig's and EON's silence the last few years have really shot themselves in the foot because the momentum is leaving Craig behind as people seem to be incredibly eager for a new Bond and its continuing to blossom with their continued silence. James Cordon just filmed a segment with David Beckham like a week ago about interviews for being the next Bond. Though it was clearly a joke it shows that the general public is really showing interest in another Bond or already assuming that Craig's done and already looking towards the future without him.
Reboots happen today for creative reasons, and it seems that stories beyond origin stories have become outdated. If the Bond character cannot progress, I think many will feel that a new reboot is necessary. This is the way the film industry has been working for over a decade now.
I think the public has tired of the current Bond. The media is probably most to blame for all the talk of a new Bond actor, and Craig's negative comments (despite whatever they actually meant) have made people expect someone else to be Bond. There also are lots of people who are wondering why it is taking so long for Idris Elba's Bond film to come out, since he was cast as Bond a few years ago.
Matt, you and I will have to agree to disagree. -{
I'm a screenwriter, novelist with film-adapted properties, and former member of the WGA. While I won't claim there is no such thing as a purely creative reboot, I can't emphasize enough how much money is behind all of this. Production companies might try to reboot a dormant property (e.g. the new McGyver) if they think they can squeeze some juice out of it. Or if the last attempt was a flop ("Star Trek: Insurrection") they might go looking for a fresh start.
What they don't do is reboot series that are earning billions of dollars. They just bring in new characters ("The Bourne Legacy," Wahlberg-era "Transformers") hoping to keep the train rolling. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
If enough time passes before the next Bond — or the actor Barb casts is someone so different from Craig (Elba!) — then they will have no choice but to reboot.
But I am not betting on it.
Wasn't the Craig Bond reboot for creative reasons? Die Another Day was a financial success and had done better than all of Brosnan's other films had. Bond was just jumping on the reboot bandwagon, though it was an idea MGW wanted to do before.
The reboot was done due to competition from the Mission Impossible films and the Bourne films.
The first three MI films outperformed the Bond films that were released in the comparable time frame and the second Bourne film outperformed DAD in the US market.
EON/MGM decided they needed a Bond who was tougher and harder and films that were grittier and more realistic in order to compete; hence the reboot.
... the one kind of reboot I could totally get behind is one set in the 1950s. I'd love to see a Fleming-era Bond going about his missions at the height of the Cold War. But that seems too artsy and risky for EON — even if it would differentiate the Bond series from every contemporary Bourne-like imitator.
I would love to see this too. I find normal folks really like the classic Connery Bonds and enjoy all the period trappings, the cars, the smoking, the Madmen-era sexism, whereas the current films are just like any other bigbudget CGI action nonsense, except that the protagonist has the same name as the character Connery once played and he has a boss named M ... I am sure that a period piece film done well, by people who actually respect the original films, would be welcomed
I seen others argue that a period piece will "confuse" the audience, especially when its an ongoing series. An example of an ongoing series which suddenly shifted to period pieces is the XMen, with three and a half prequels now (counting Wolverine - Origin) ... set during the Cuba Missile Crisis, pre-Watergate Nixon administration, and 1983 (the characters go see Return of the Jedi at the theatre) ... the period trappings are part of the appeal, as is piecing together the clues as to exactly when each film takes place
I would like to see some villan sending "communication" satellites to outer space. But in effect they are nails bombs. If they are set off they will shredd any other satellites "nearby", those satellites will in turn be torn to pieces that will destroy other satellites etc. creating a destructive domino effect in space. This "service" can be bought by regimes not in posession of and not relying on satellites who are facing a high-tech adversery. It can also be used for extortion. This is a real threath (Google it or watch the extra features on the "Gravity" DVD).
I would like to see some villan sending "communication" satellites to outer space. But in effect they are nails bombs. If they are set off they will shredd any other satellites "nearby", those satellites will in turn be torn to pieces that will destroy other satellites etc. creating a destruktive domino effect in space. This "service" can be bought by regimes not in posession of and not relying on satellites who are facing a high-threath. It can also be used for extortion. This is a real threath (Google it or watch the extra features on the "Gravity" DVD).
Solid idea.
A bit Tomorrow Never Dies/Diamonds Are Forever/Die Another Day/GoldenEye-y thing, which I love. "All to the highest bidder"
Thank you. Weapons in space is very Bondian and this would be a realistic and new way of doing it, and it doesn't involve hacking. I can imagine North Korea and SPECTRE in a bidding war to get hold of this. SPECTRE would of course use it to blackmail the UK to release Blofeld.
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This is a rebrand of the character and they have to show that he's still got the classic villain in him and is not to be messed with. Since he'll be in the next movie or two, we gotta know he's a bad mother!
If love some bigger emphasis on gadgets again. Just little tidbits of the older films brought back, to maintain some nostalgia without sacrificing the storyline for the sake of fans of Connery and Moore.
http://www.gq.com/story/fix-the-franchise-james-bond
Also money talks - DC tenure has made shedloads of it
As Welshie said, too much has been put in place to make a major change now. The movies are making gazillions. And the public at large hasn't tired of the current iteration of Bond. (Even if some people here have.)
Reboots happen when the grosses begin falling off.
Reboots happen today for creative reasons, and it seems that stories beyond origin stories have become outdated. If the Bond character cannot progress, I think many will feel that a new reboot is necessary. This is the way the film industry has been working for over a decade now.
I think the public has tired of the current Bond. The media is probably most to blame for all the talk of a new Bond actor, and Craig's negative comments (despite whatever they actually meant) have made people expect someone else to be Bond. There also are lots of people who are wondering why it is taking so long for Idris Elba's Bond film to come out, since he was cast as Bond a few years ago.
Americans want him as Bond so badly that many people I've met think he's already been cast as Bond. They were surprised to see Daniel Craig as Bond in Spectre because they thought Elba was supposed to star in it. The American media have talked about him as Bond so much that people think he is Bond.
I don't think he will.
Errrr--really? OK, I don't live in one of the media hubs--New York or Los Angeles--but I keep my eyes and ears tuned to Bond news and I've never encountered anything about Elba being Bond. And this goes double for SPECTRE and the lead-up to it. I'd be interested to find your sources.
Matt, you and I will have to agree to disagree. -{
I'm a screenwriter, novelist with film-adapted properties, and former member of the WGA. While I won't claim there is no such thing as a purely creative reboot, I can't emphasize enough how much money is behind all of this. Production companies might try to reboot a dormant property (e.g. the new McGyver) if they think they can squeeze some juice out of it. Or if the last attempt was a flop ("Star Trek: Insurrection") they might go looking for a fresh start.
What they don't do is reboot series that are earning billions of dollars. They just bring in new characters ("The Bourne Legacy," Wahlberg-era "Transformers") hoping to keep the train rolling. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
If enough time passes before the next Bond — or the actor Barb casts is someone so different from Craig (Elba!) — then they will have no choice but to reboot.
But I am not betting on it.
The rumours of Elba as Bond started at least five years ago:
It started at least five years ago: http://entertainment.time.com/2012/10/25/will-idris-elba-be-the-next-james-bond/
Many people loved the idea, so it keeps coming up. Here are some more articles:
http://www.gq.com/story/brief-history-black-james-bond
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/idris-elba-addresses-james-bond-speculation-1201388135/
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/feb/17/idris-elba-good-james-bond-007-pierce-brosnan-film-daniel-craig
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/idris-elba-enough-james-bond-6916354
Even Elba considers himself 'the most famous Bond actor in the world' after all the rumours:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2015/idris-elba-im-probably-the-most-famous-bond-actor-in-the-world/
The idea of Elba being Bond has come up so much that people think he actually was cast as Bond. I don't think any other actor has been mentioned more to replace Craig.
Wasn't the Craig Bond reboot for creative reasons? Die Another Day was a financial success and had done better than all of Brosnan's other films had. Bond was just jumping on the reboot bandwagon, though it was an idea MGW wanted to do before.
I suppose that's fair.
But the circumstances around Casino Royale were extraordinary to say the least. 1. At long last, Eon had gotten hold of the first Bond novel (which is an origin story even if Bond seems fully formed in most ways pre-Vesper). 2. We forget now but the campy DAD came out the same year as Goldmember (“We had to destroy the myth because [the Austin Powers movies] fucked us,” Craig later said.) 3. Pierce was "Cubby's Bond" in that he'd wanted him for TLD and was still around for the preproduction of Goldeneye. 4. And I think Barbara, especially, wanted to escape her dead father's shadow. She took a huge risk casting Craig, no doubt about it. It took a lot of guts.
Might she do it again? Yeah, I guess it's possible. But a hard reboot risks turning the Bond series into a version of the Spider-man films. How many origin stories do we want to see?
Matt, thanks for your reply and for putting your money where your mouth is. Yes, I'm aware of rumors of Elba, but I've never seen them go beyond rumor, and I really don't buy the idea of people in this country universally believing Elba IS Bond. Not that it matters.
It's certainly not a universal belief that Elba was cast as Bond, but it's certainly a widespread belief as a result of these and many more BS articles. It doesn't take much for people to believe rumours, or to misread them and think they are true.
The reboot was done due to competition from the Mission Impossible films and the Bourne films.
The first three MI films outperformed the Bond films that were released in the comparable time frame and the second Bourne film outperformed DAD in the US market.
EON/MGM decided they needed a Bond who was tougher and harder and films that were grittier and more realistic in order to compete; hence the reboot.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=spy.htm
I seen others argue that a period piece will "confuse" the audience, especially when its an ongoing series. An example of an ongoing series which suddenly shifted to period pieces is the XMen, with three and a half prequels now (counting Wolverine - Origin) ... set during the Cuba Missile Crisis, pre-Watergate Nixon administration, and 1983 (the characters go see Return of the Jedi at the theatre) ... the period trappings are part of the appeal, as is piecing together the clues as to exactly when each film takes place
A bit Tomorrow Never Dies/Diamonds Are Forever/Die Another Day/GoldenEye-y thing, which I love. "All to the highest bidder"