Bond 25 + Future Bond Score Composer

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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    David Arnold would be my first choice. Wish he could redo Skyfall and Spectre's scores.

    Michael Giacchino would be my second choice.
    Would absolutely love to hear a Giacchino Bond score! he's a perfect candidate for the job.
  • Alec 006Alec 006 Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 211MI6 Agent
    Am I missing something here?

    With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
    Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/christopher-nolan-directing-bond-25-1201812534/
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Alec 006 wrote:
    Am I missing something here?

    With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
    Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/christopher-nolan-directing-bond-25-1201812534/

    Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Alec 006 wrote:
    Am I missing something here?

    With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
    Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/christopher-nolan-directing-bond-25-1201812534/

    Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
    As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Alec 006 wrote:
    Am I missing something here?

    With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
    Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/christopher-nolan-directing-bond-25-1201812534/

    Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
    As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.

    Sales don't indicate quality, particularly when it comes to music. Justin Bieber is currently at the top of the charts. Film score quality is in such a sad state today that there aren't many good choices when it comes to Oscar nominations. The other four nominees that year were infinitely better than Skyfall's score.
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    I think the sales of Skyfall's score were a result of the overall success of the film and the related hype surrounding the 50th anniversary. It wasn't anything special. That said, I agree that Skyfall's score was much better than Spectre's.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
    As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.

    Sales don't indicate quality, particularly when it comes to music. Justin Bieber is currently at the top of the charts. Film score quality is in such a sad state today that there aren't many good choices when it comes to Oscar nominations. The other four nominees that year were infinitely better than Skyfall's score.
    That's true, I just don't think Skyfall's score is as bad as some think it is at least in comparison to Spectre.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.

    Sales don't indicate quality, particularly when it comes to music. Justin Bieber is currently at the top of the charts. Film score quality is in such a sad state today that there aren't many good choices when it comes to Oscar nominations. The other four nominees that year were infinitely better than Skyfall's score.
    That's true, I just don't think Skyfall's score is as bad as some think it is at least in comparison to Spectre.

    Well, I don't think Skyfall's score is much better than Spectre's.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    It possibly suited the film better and added extra dourness to the already dour mood
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    As with most things Spectre we are reduced to defending the ' not too bad' Newman's input to the Bondiverse is lackluster at best. Bad music, very very bad, terrible music in fact. Possibly fake music, that's not what I'm saying but it's what I have heard...
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Since Newman will not be scoring Bond 25 I think Michael Giacchino is my dream candidate. His score for the original Medal of honor is one of my favorite scores of all time.
  • Alec 006Alec 006 Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 211MI6 Agent
    I think you mean you don't need any more of that Matt. I'd be more than happy with Zimmer getting the nod for Bond 25. In fact I found his treatment of films such as Tarantino's "True Romance" to be anything other than generic.
    Maybe you just need a better stereo system ;)
    Matt S wrote:
    Alec 006 wrote:
    Am I missing something here?

    With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
    Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/christopher-nolan-directing-bond-25-1201812534/

    Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
    Oscar Wilde
  • BruceMurdockBruceMurdock OhioPosts: 133MI6 Agent
    No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.

    For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
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    -{ Yes, I want it Big and Bold !
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    -{ Yes, I want it Big and Bold !

    And Bond! {[]
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    And Brassy! :))
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Shirley Brassy! :))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :))
    I love the story of how to get relaxed to hit the last high note in GF.
    She went behind the sound screen , and the next thing her bra comes
    Over the top ! :D
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    Shirley Brassy! :))

    You'd tend to think she'd be nailed on for Bond25...
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  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,119MI6 Agent
    No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.

    For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(

    100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
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  • fleiterfleiter USPosts: 243MI6 Agent
    David Arnold or ...Ramin Djawadi, he's score in the TV show Person of Interest really proved to outstanding in my opinion. I'm really curious to see how he'd implement Bond sounds. But I guess it's just a dream
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.

    For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(

    100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
    the main theme is referenced atleast once in both SF and SP's scores, But I agree that it should be referenced more often like the Connery films.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.

    CR is a great example of this. YKMN is ingrained in half the score and it is done beautifully.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.

    For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(

    100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
    the main theme is referenced atleast once in both SF and SP's scores, But I agree that it should be referenced more often like the Connery films.

    None of the Connery films reference the theme in the score. It's not about referencing the theme, it's about integrating the main theme and developing a score starting from the theme. Almost the entire Goldfinger score is the Goldfinger theme. It helps when there are alternate themes to work from, though the way Barry wrote scores was simply a way of writing the most meaningful music he could for the purpose of each film.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Matt S wrote:
    None of the Connery films reference the theme in the score.

    Matt, do you mean the "James Bond Theme" or the individual film's theme?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVaI8uf4gjU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHl6WQCb5S8
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    None of the Connery films reference the theme in the score.

    Matt, do you mean the "James Bond Theme" or the individual film's theme?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVaI8uf4gjU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHl6WQCb5S8

    I mean the films' themes.
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  • BruceMurdockBruceMurdock OhioPosts: 133MI6 Agent
    I don't really mind if the "Title theme" of the film is underused but lately I feel the Bond theme has been sorely underused to the point it's barely in the films anymore. It just maddens me. I can understand the lack of it in Casino Royale as Bond was earning it but from Quantum of Solace on, it's been sorely missed. I can't wait until this Bond theme blackout is lifted so the theme can be used to great usage again.
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    None of the Connery films reference the theme in the score.

    Matt, do you mean the "James Bond Theme" or the individual film's theme?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVaI8uf4gjU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHl6WQCb5S8

    I mean the films' themes.
    Don't tell me you think that You Only Live Twice's theme was underused?
    Mountains and Sunsets?
    James Bond in Japan?
    I mean, you must've heard of Aki, Tiger and Osato!
    a reasonable rate of return
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Barbel wrote:

    Matt, do you mean the "James Bond Theme" or the individual film's theme?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVaI8uf4gjU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHl6WQCb5S8

    I mean the films' themes.
    Don't tell me you think that You Only Live Twice's theme was underused?
    Mountains and Sunsets?
    James Bond in Japan?
    I mean, you must've heard of Aki, Tiger and Osato!

    Read my entire post, not just the first sentence that was quoted.
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