2,751

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

I’m having a hard time believing that Metro article. BB wouldn’t give a quote exclusively to a tabloid like that, and I don’t see that the article was quoting someone else or that she was available at a press event where other publications might also have gotten and published quotes. It just doesn’t pass the smell test for me...

2,752

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

zaphod99 wrote:

What it took was that dismissive  'that's film making ' shtick from Babs, oh and loosing out on the most promising director (Boyle ) possibly in the history of the series. Oh and a four year +  wait. Oh and the real kicker a truly terrible stinker of a last movie. 

I think all Barbara was saying is that these things happen in the film business but we are pushing on. What's she supposed to say? Because the director left, Bond 25 is guaranteed to suck even though we were able to replace him with another highly lauded, talented director with a great track record.
I was all for Boyle directing Bond 25 but there were those who had doubts.
We don't really have much real information as to what the specific issues that ended up in the departure of Boyle. Maybe some day we will get the actual facts and find out it was for the best......or for the worst. Only time will tell.
IMO, SPECTRE was a disappointing misfire / missed opportunity but not horrible. But that's just me.

2,753

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Just give me a ”Roger Moore“ type bond film this time and i’ll be happy. But i know that wouldn’t happen  ajb007/lol

2,754

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Licencetochat wrote:

Just give me a ”Roger Moore“ type bond film this time and i’ll be happy. But i know that wouldn’t happen  ajb007/lol

In theory I agree. But they can’t make a “Roger Moore type” Bond film withiut a “Roger Moore type” actor playing Bond. They have elected to stick with Craig and they need to play to his strengths. Spectre fell utterly flat every time it attempted to introduce a Moore-type gag.

2,755

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

To be honest, most Moore films fell flat when they tried to introduce a Moore-type gag.

2,756

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

I think that Spectre was Craig his Moore film with the sofa fall and the chase scene. Where I love it in Moore his films, I prefer it not to happen in the Craig films. It doesn't fit the character we know in this day and age. Maybe if the next guy comes along we'll have a new Moore, but for now keep it a tiny bit more dark. Like the moments in Skyfall, some humoristic segments, but mostly with words (Can you open the door, please? Open... The door...) and not with coincidence.

MI6Community: DoubleOGeauss
YouTube: DutchJamesBondFan

2,757

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

I don't think we will ever see anything like the Moore films again. In today's world they would just seem like parody and take-offs on a
take off ie Austin Powers. Unfortunately SPECTRE had a bit of a brush with that sort of thing. When it comes to a return to "Classic Bond" for me that means an interesting storyline, a strong compelling villain, suspense, a bit of spycraft, action scenes that help advance the story and just as importantly, a proper Bond score.

2,758

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

I still don't get the argument SPECTRE was like a Moore film.
Have you guys actually seen a Roger Moore film?
how is the SPECTRE car chase like a Roger Moore car chase?

there is at least one zany chase scene in every Moore film, and they are zany because the car does cool things and races through interesting scenery with reaction shots from the crowds … the speedboat, the corkscrew jump, the car/submarine, the Citroen tumbling down switchbacks … lots of creative things happen during MooreBond chase scenes.
when was there ever a MooreBond chase where he places a phone call mid-chase then the chase is over before anything even happens? literally nothing happens during the SPECTRE chase, and it's at night so we can't see the scenery, again unlike MooreBond chases.

just cuz its bad does not mean it has anything to do with Moore-era films.

2,759

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

I never said that what Moore did was bad. The style of humour was Moore esque. Spectre had a lot of flaws when it comes to story, but in this case the humour was the point. Further I agree with Howard.

MI6Community: DoubleOGeauss
YouTube: DutchJamesBondFan

2,760

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

There are elements from the Moore Bond movies that can come back, such as


- 007 enjoying food, wine and luxury more.
- a more light-hearted attitude towards women. meaning less death and doom and more for the fun of it.
- More jokes. Not as many or in the same way as roger did it, but still

2,761

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

DutchJamesBondFan wrote:

I never said that what Moore did was bad. The style of humour was Moore esque. Spectre had a lot of flaws when it comes to story, but in this case the humour was the point. Further I agree with Howard.

ah I get you … you are saying the increased attempts at humour were Moore-esque, not the specific execution of those "jokes".
I've argued before: Craig is the funniest Bond since Moore, much funnier than either of the actors in between. Its just his humour is very different, more about being cruel and intimidating. "do I look like I give a damn" in his first film or "I'd rather slash my wrists" in real life, those are Craig jokes. And his films are full of subtle variations of these jokes, often just body language, but these Craig jokes are often the best part of the film while everything around him is a bit unsatisfying. The parking valet sequence, again from the first film: he was always funny.

To be pedantic: the sofa gag in the pre-credits was a reference to an old Connery scene (YOLT), not one of Moore's. Moore was not the only funny Bond.


I would like to see a return of the Moore-era epic scope to Craig's films. That is one thing they seemed to be referencing in the last two films, then pulled away from rather than fully commit. Look: a villain's headquarters … just kidding, really we're going back to London for the last act!
Didn't Craig even say once in an interview he wanted to do a Bond-film "with submarine bases"?

2,762

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

zaphod99 wrote:
Jarvio wrote:

Anyone think that they may push the release date back forward again to 2019? I just can't stand the fact that there will only be two bond films in the '10's decade

They could have cast, made, and released 25 if they had not waited for DC to finally accept the 20 -30 squilion for a film he never wanted to make,and is probably too old for. To arrogantly  laugh this off is truly insulting to fans and gross incompetence.

The delay was nothing to do with DC, if any one specific thing is to blame, it's the new distribution deal.

2,763

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Sounds like the rumour du jour is that Richard Madden (Robb Stark on GAME OF THRONES) is now the lead contender for Bond once Daniel Craig retires.

Not seeing it.  He's not a bad actor but he projects zero menace and isn't physically imposing.

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>TLD>SF>GE>OP>DN>FYEO>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>SP>DAF>LTK>AVTAK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Dalton>Brosnan

2,764

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Bond is going to have baggy eyes in this one due to lack of sleep...
https://i.postimg.cc/6yjw3HZ7/C7-C93648-529-E-49-B6-A02-B-EAD6-EC2-FE104.jpg

2,765

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Arbogast777 wrote:

Bond is going to have baggy eyes in this one due to lack of sleep...
https://i.postimg.cc/6yjw3HZ7/C7-C93648-529-E-49-B6-A02-B-EAD6-EC2-FE104.jpg

Baggy eyes might be an improvement!

2,766

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Matt S wrote:
Arbogast777 wrote:

Bond is going to have baggy eyes in this one due to lack of sleep...
https://i.postimg.cc/6yjw3HZ7/C7-C93648-529-E-49-B6-A02-B-EAD6-EC2-FE104.jpg

Baggy eyes might be an improvement!

Fortunately, based on those pictures from back in May (apparently filming a new Heineken commercial) he still cleans up well for Bond.

2,767

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

He ll look forward to the rest and peace & quiet of playing Bond in a few months  ajb007/lol

2,768

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

I expect to see the end of the Brexit drama before I see the next James Bond film!

2,769

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

You are a Brexit optimist or a Bond pessimist  ajb007/lol

Last edited by Number24 (16th Oct 2018 19:59)

2,770

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Arbogast777 wrote:

Bond is going to have baggy eyes in this one due to lack of sleep...
https://i.postimg.cc/6yjw3HZ7/C7-C93648-529-E-49-B6-A02-B-EAD6-EC2-FE104.jpg

As someone who is presently in the throes of a newborn, I understand the look on his face.  ajb007/lol

2,771

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Miles Messervy wrote:
Arbogast777 wrote:

Bond is going to have baggy eyes in this one due to lack of sleep...
https://i.postimg.cc/6yjw3HZ7/C7-C93648-529-E-49-B6-A02-B-EAD6-EC2-FE104.jpg

As someone who is presently in the throes of a newborn, I understand the look on his face.  ajb007/lol

Are you angry with the paparazzi too?  ajb007/amazed

2,772

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

CANADA?? https://m.bernerzeitung.ch/articles/5bc … 56b7000001

This is Stefan Zürcher: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0959268/?ref_=nv_sr_1

2,773

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

If anyone would know, he would certainly seem to be one.

Canada, it'll be a first for Bond (Yes, I know they filmed the 1977 union jack parachute jump there).

Does the translation of ice desert equate to arctic? Are the Russians back care of global warming making the arctic more exploitable?

Is this why they were looking to cast Finnish people?

2,774

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

Maybe they are adapting Fleming’s TSWLM - or at least the mission in Toronto referenced by Bond.

2,775

Re: Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

This is very exiting. If the plot involves Finland it would make more sense to film there. It's possible the tax system there is as stupid as it is here in Norway, but I doubt it.
It's more likely the Finns are going to play Russians. If that's the case it's one possibility the plot is a bout climate change and new trade routes like Someone suggests. I wrote a suggestion in Bond25 Wishlist for how such a plot could work. Dare we hope for a good ski scene?

Last edited by Number24 (17th Oct 2018 22:06)