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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    I doubt it will blow up sky high, partly because it's in a nature preserve and partly because I suspect they have something special in mind (see post 4.020)
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,446MI6 Agent
    It certainly has the vibe of a retired Bond living with Madeleine in seclusion.

    Should they actually go that route.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    N24, how much longer will there be snow in that area of Norway? Come early April (if this construction is for B25 filming that is) what will the area look like?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    This is a link With a graph showing weather statistics for the village Hakadal Verk, half a mile from the location. It looks like the snow will be gone by about April 20.

    https://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Akershus/Nittedal/Hakadals_verk/statistics.html?spr=eng
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I doubt it will blow up sky high, partly because it's in a nature preserve and partly because I suspect they have something special in mind (see post 4.020)

    I noticed the large glass windows it has, nice to throw people through. Hopefully a fight sequence smashing up the inside of the house before Bond or the assassin(s) are thrown through the windows. Or vehicles crash through them.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    Snowmobiles, perhaps? The stuntman who has posted a couple of times on Instagram (I can't remember his name) is an expert on vehicles. A snowmobile can run on snow, open water and even inside houses.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    It's amazing, if you Google news search James Bond for the past 24 hours every single page of returned webpages has Shatterhand stories.

    I wonder if this wall to wall coverage will spark an EON response or a comment by DC on the Oscars' red carpet tomorrow?
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Jack and a lady in an isolated cabin in a snowscape, open fire, fur rugs etc,they go out for a walk and come under attack.

    Or it could be like the Netflix film Polar with Mads Mikklesen where the protagonist (a former hitman) gets attacked at a lake cabin.

    BTW, Polar's pretty good, although definitely R rated.
    Well protagonists in snow in bond films is a bit of a thing.

    Never seen Polar, is it R rated for violence or sex or what?

    Both. And it's a hard R.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    I doubt it will blow up sky high, partly because it's in a nature preserve and partly because I suspect they have something special in mind (see post 4.020)

    I noticed the large glass windows it has, nice to throw people through. Hopefully a fight sequence smashing up the inside of the house before Bond or the assassin(s) are thrown through the windows. Or vehicles crash through them.

    You could be onto something. There was that photo the stunt team posted of someone being thrown off something, maybe he could be going through that window.
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited February 2019
    The Words are not Enough podcast spoke with The Playlist's Editor In-Chief, Rodrigo Perez (@YrOnlyHope) about his Scott Burns, Bond25 exclusive story for 50 minutes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJaLRs08dHk&t=11s

    In a nutshell:

    Scott Burns has been talking to EON for months (since December probably) about coming onboard.

    "They're [EON] backs are against the wall."

    "They're shooting soon."

    If the Burns script is completely new, there is no way they are starting in April. But, he knows Burns is writing something that is based on Purvis & Wade work.

    "My guess is a lot of the set pieces [action scenes] for this film are already built and done."

    Perez does not know why Fukunaga does not appear to have had his own idea, adding that Fukunaga usually has rewrites on his projects.

    They speculate that Fukunaga would not have signed up to an idea/script that he did not like.

    Perez speculates that there could be further filming and/or release date delays if Burns script is not well received.

    Perez knew about Burns/EON contact for months, but only chose to write the story when the Bond25 release date was put back.

    Burns rewrote Bourne Supremacy and wrote Bourne Ultimatum. Rewrites are not uncommon in Hollywood.

    Perez is aware that killing Bond off was in the mix at some point, he doesn't say it was purely Boyle's idea. He says he likes the idea.
  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    Farout, let's hope Burns nails the rewrite. If he doesn't then it could be disastrous. I'm bracing myself for further delays
  • UnderwaterBattle007UnderwaterBattle007 Posts: 284MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Jack and a lady in an isolated cabin in a snowscape, open fire, fur rugs etc,they go out for a walk and come under attack.

    Or it could be like the Netflix film Polar with Mads Mikklesen where the protagonist (a former hitman) gets attacked at a lake cabin.

    BTW, Polar's pretty good, although definitely R rated.
    Well protagonists in snow in bond films is a bit of a thing.

    Never seen Polar, is it R rated for violence or sex or what?

    It's for the violence.

    I liked the film a lot and Mads plays a great part as the washed up assassin. Similar to the Charles Bronson in the "Mechanic" there's always someone after you, and a squad of younger assassin's are sent after him.

    To me they are a bit "Wackey Races" and one of the girls reminds me of Penelope Pitstop. Don't let that put you off I really enjoyed it with a few twists and turns along the way. Well worth a watch thats for sure. Mads is excellent!!
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  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    edited February 2019
    So the release date for the Kingsman prequel, Kingsman: The Great Game, has just been moved from November 15th this year to B25's previous release date of Feb 14 2020. Will that have an affect on B25, no clue at this stage.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/kingsman-prequel-moves-feb-2020-free-fall-lands-summer-release-1189367
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    I'm coming to think that there must be multiple scripts in an EON vault for Bond25.

    Purvis & Wade were announced on 24 July 2017 with EON saying Bond25, "will be written by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade," and most would have imagined that they would have produced a script.
    http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement/

    25 May 2018 EON announce that Boyle is on-board for Bond25 and that it would have, "an original screenplay by Academy Award nominee John Hodge".
    http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement-2/

    By May, P&W had had at least 11 months to produce a script.

    21 August EON announced that Boyle was no longer directing Bond25. Hodge would have appeared to have had four months to produce a script, which was then, in part, the cause for Boyle's departure - whether you believe it was over the plot point of killing off Bond or the choice of actor for the Russian villain.
    http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement-3/

    14 September 2018 Baz Bamigboye reports that Purvis & Wade are drawing up a script from their original Bond25 treatment. Did P&W really only produce a treatment (a novel like description of a film generally ten or more pages long) during those 11 months preceding Boyle joining, or did they produce a script as well as a treatment? Treatments are usually written before a script as part of the script making process.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6166379/Spymaster-writing-duo-rescue-new-Bond-film-director-Danny-Boyle-walked-out.html

    20 September 2018 EON announces that Cary Fukunaga has joined as director.
    http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement-4/
    He is an accomplished writer with film credits to his name as well as TV. EON does not state in its announcement who is writing Fukunaga's script. By this time, P&W had had a month to work on their new post-Boyle script, based on their treatment.

    Was Fukunaga's script going to be this post-Boyle script Baz Bamigboye wrote about or a new script from an idea of Fukunaga's or a script based on the pre-Boyle P&W treatment with Fukunaga's input?

    16 February The Playlist reports that, "Sources close to the project tell us that Scott Z. Burns...has been hired to rewrite the ‘Bond 25’ script by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade. It’s an overhaul..." So it would seem that Fukunaga was apparently working from the P&W treatment script reported by Bamigboye, but maybe it was a version with Fukunaga's input?
    https://theplaylist.net/exclusive-scott-z-burns-bond-25-20190216/

    So, we have a P&W original script possibly written between July 2017 and May 2018, we have John Hodge's script, we then have a post-Boyle P&W script, and then possibly another P&W script produced with Fukuanaga, and based on the P&W treatment, and then there is the Scott Burns 'overhaul'. Five scripts.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    So the release date for the Kingsman prequel, Kingsman: The Great Game, has just been moved from November 15th this year to B25's previous release date of Feb 14 2019.

    I must’ve seen it a week ago then! :)
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    JTM wrote:
    So the release date for the Kingsman prequel, Kingsman: The Great Game, has just been moved from November 15th this year to B25's previous release date of Feb 14 2020.

    I must’ve seen it a week ago then! :)

    Oops, corrected it now...I don't think my mind wanted to believe next year is 2020, five whole years after Spectre's release :s
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,757MI6 Agent
    Just saw a new picture of Craig doing rehearsals for the Oscars. He looks pretty good. My only complaint is the hair is short again. I was rather hoping they would go with a longer cut like he had in that Heineken commercial that aired when Spectre came out.

    Link courtesy of The Bond Experience:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BuQrwubjYSZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=2pv827wp7ns5
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    I think his hair looks grey in that photo. It must be all the delays …..
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Just saw a new picture of Craig doing rehearsals for the Oscars. He looks pretty good. My only complaint is the hair is short again. I was rather hoping they would go with a longer cut like he had in that Heineken commercial that aired when Spectre came out.

    Link courtesy of The Bond Experience:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BuQrwubjYSZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=2pv827wp7ns5
    I dont think Craig looks good with longer hair, though it looked fine in that Spectre Heineken commercial you mentioned.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    The Words are not Enough podcast spoke with The Playlist's Editor In-Chief, Rodrigo Perez (@YrOnlyHope) about his Scott Burns, Bond25 exclusive story for 50 minutes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJaLRs08dHk&t=11s

    In a nutshell:

    Scott Burns has been talking to EON for months (since December probably) about coming onboard.

    "They're [EON] backs are against the wall."

    "They're shooting soon."

    If the Burns script is completely new, there is no way they are starting in April. But, he knows Burns is writing something that is based on Purvis & Wade work.

    "My guess is a lot of the set pieces [action scenes] for this film are already built and done."

    Perez does not know why Fukunaga does not appear to have had his own idea, adding that Fukunaga usually has rewrites on his projects.

    They speculate that Fukunaga would not have signed up to an idea/script that he did not like.

    Perez speculates that there could be further filming and/or release date delays if Burns script is not well received.

    Perez knew about Burns/EON contact for months, but only chose to write the story when the Bond25 release date was put back.

    Burns rewrote Bourne Supremacy and wrote Bourne Ultimatum. Rewrites are not uncommon in Hollywood.

    Perez is aware that killing Bond off was in the mix at some point, he doesn't say it was purely Boyle's idea. He says he likes the idea.

    Thanks for sharing that. Of course it's mostly speculation at this point. Whatever Burns has been tasked with doing, hopefully he can get it done within the timeframe he was given and it meets expectations. Like you said, rewrites and script polishes are not uncommon. If you go by "Some Kind of Hero" they are very common with Bond films...it's just that they typically happened during the normal time frame between films and did not create delays. Bond 25 has had a difficult gestation with Craig taking his time to decide whether he would return which probably put EON in some form of limbo, going from the P&W script to the Boyle/Hodge script to Boyle leaving and Fukunaga coming on board and back to the P&W script and now another delay with Burns being brought in.
    What we don't clearly know is, what came first, the chicken or the egg? Did EON jump on the opportunity that the availability of the Easter release date presented to both get Burns on board for a polish or rewrite plus a better release date or were they so uncomfortable with the script that another delay was inevitable? A lot of the speculation in the "media" has been that the script was really bad and desperately in need of a rewrite and of course that's the more dramatic, click baiting take on things vs of course EON's PR that everything is rosey, just got a better release date stuff. Personally, I don't mind waiting another two months if the outcome is a very good Bond film.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Just saw a new picture of Craig doing rehearsals for the Oscars. He looks pretty good. My only complaint is the hair is short again. I was rather hoping they would go with a longer cut like he had in that Heineken commercial that aired when Spectre came out.

    Link courtesy of The Bond Experience:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BuQrwubjYSZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=2pv827wp7ns5

    That confirms this, DC will be 'world-weary' Bond.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6712817/We-DONT-expect-dye-Mr-Bond-Daniel-Craig-insists-not-hide-grey-hair.html
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Just saw a new picture of Craig doing rehearsals for the Oscars. He looks pretty good. My only complaint is the hair is short again. I was rather hoping they would go with a longer cut like he had in that Heineken commercial that aired when Spectre came out.

    Link courtesy of The Bond Experience:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BuQrwubjYSZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=2pv827wp7ns5

    That confirms this, DC will be 'world-weary' Bond.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6712817/We-DONT-expect-dye-Mr-Bond-Daniel-Craig-insists-not-hide-grey-hair.html

    Yes.... the article also states: "He has been a box office smash raking in £3 billion per movie"

    Somehow I think they don't know the difference between "per movie" and "during his total tenure as Bond"
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  • You'veHadYourSixYou'veHadYourSix Posts: 79MI6 Agent
    Wonder if we'll ever see a return
    From the 007 theme by John Barry
    Which was first included in FRWL, Thunderball
    & i believe its last appearance was Moonraker.

    Im sure its unlikely but it would be a nice nod.

    Imagine like half way through bond 25
    Theres a awesome action scene and
    It kicks into full swing.

    I recently heard someone say how it wouldnt work
    But i actually heard it in the recent Trainspotting 2 which was directed by danny boyle & written by john hodge.
    Before they were announced for bond 25.
    I thought it worked well, imagine david arnold, or michael giacchino recreating it.

    Besides more or less all of Barrys scores are timeless
    Think Out of Africa, Dances with wolves most of Bond.
    Except maybe OHMSS with the moog, which is still ahead of its time in my book.
    Also the drum machine in TLD.
    These are however still great.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    edited February 2019
    The newspaper Aftenposten has interviewed an old lady who is the closest neighbour to the filming location in Langvann, Norway. Some interesting things are mentioned in the article:

    - People from TrueNorth has been seen in the area and a member of that company is listed as the contact for the local authorities. TrueNorth are currently working on Bond25 for EON.

    - Filming is likely to take place during much of March, and everything must be gone by the time the birds in the forrest hatch their eggs. Some types of eagle, hawk and owl lay their eggs in late March and early April.

    - The production has leased her barn. (probably means nothing, but ….)

    - Large parts of the ice-covered lake has been cleared of snow and cordoned off. (I suspect there will be a scene on the lake)

    - Rumours say the cabin will be blown up in the Movie,

    https://www.aftenposten.no/osloby/i/EoVQ93/Filmsensasjon-langt-inn-i-Nordmarka-Aase-Marie-81-klar-for-a-bli-James-Bond-vertinne#&gid=1&pid=2
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,736MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Just saw a new picture of Craig doing rehearsals for the Oscars. He looks pretty good. My only complaint is the hair is short again. I was rather hoping they would go with a longer cut like he had in that Heineken commercial that aired when Spectre came out.

    Link courtesy of The Bond Experience:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BuQrwubjYSZ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=2pv827wp7ns5

    That confirms this, DC will be 'world-weary' Bond.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6712817/We-DONT-expect-dye-Mr-Bond-Daniel-Craig-insists-not-hide-grey-hair.html

    All it confirms is that Craig at 50 has some grey hair. By the time filming hopefully commences in April we will know whether or not we get a grey Bond. We will get a bit of a better idea of how Craig will look this time around at the Academy Awards broadcast as he will be wearing some make up. From this most recent photo, his face looks thinner than it did in the photos from the Knives Out set.
    At least Craig appears to be getting into Bond shape....hopefully the screenplay is too. :#
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    Satelite photo of the area from Google Earth. The cabin is being buildt on narrow strip of land between the Langevann lake (to the south) and the road, near where the words "Oslo" and "Akershus" are.

    https://www.google.no/maps/@60.1115103,10.7661682,249m/data=!3m1!1e3
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited February 2019
    Rami Malek wins best actor. Bond25 announcement imminent?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy4GL6RtVOk

    Malek on the red carpet. No Bond reference.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERb-k5OQgtM

    A trim looking DC gives Mahershala Ali the best supporting actor Oscar.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHiEzs21n0I

    Walking out to the Bond theme
    https://twitter.com/showtimelimonj/status/1099857369608212480
  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    Will he walk out to the Bond theme?

    £5 says he does. The yanks would probably wonder who he was if he didn't

    Can i have my £5 now ? :))
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,415MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Rami Malek wins best actor. Bond25 announcement imminent?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy4GL6RtVOk

    Malek on the red carpet. No Bond reference.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERb-k5OQgtM

    A trim looking DC gives Mahershala Ali the best supporting actor Oscar.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHiEzs21n0I

    Walking out to the Bond theme
    https://twitter.com/showtimelimonj/status/1099857369608212480

    He looks fine, grey hair not a problem just wish he had a more flattering cut. He just looks tiny and insignificant next to Charlize Theron who looks more formidable than he does. Should have busted out those lifts...but overall not the disaster some of us feared.
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