The leader of The Change party, says they only need
One more vote than the Brexit party to win. ...... all I
Can say is, Wow they've changed their tune.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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The leader of The Change party, says they only need
One more vote than the Brexit party to win. ...... all I
Can say is, Wow they've changed their tune.
I'm sure that editing posts is perfectly harmless. Nothing sinister, like this footage:
The leader of The Change party, says they only need
One more vote than the Brexit party to win. ...... all I
Can say is, Wow they've changed their tune.
I'm sure that editing posts is perfectly harmless. Nothing sinister, like this footage:
Word has it that a bid to oust May is now very much underway ...
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,673MI6 Agent
Even in the natural run of things, without any coups or plots Mrs May really doesn't have very long left to serve as PM. Whether she gets her EU Withdrawal Agreement through on a fourth attempt or not is now largely irrelevant as she will be gone soon after in any eventuality. The only thing she has left is how she secures her legacy when the history books on this period come to be written. If she gets her deal through Parliament on her fourth attempt at least she will be able to point to that as a positive outcome to her hard work in securing a withdrawal deal with the EU. After all, securing a stable exit from the EU was what she became Tory leader and PM for. If her deal doesn't go through on the fourth attempt, then I think that the verdict of those history books will be a lot less kind to her premiership.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
She's been on borrowed time for a while now, pretty much since the results of the snap election she called wiped out the tory majority. I think the whole European political landscape will look a bit different by the end of the week.
Even if the withdrawal agreement gets through I doubt history will look kindly on the May premiership, infact the recent era of May and Corbyn has been marked by ineffectual politics and politicians bereft of democratic duty.
Those expecting a decent turnout in the UK for the MEP elections may be dissapointed, having just cast my vote I asked how turn out was, "very slow, we've had 75 people in so far" which given that my polling station serves around 3000 people isn't a great number and it also sits in prime voting territory.
I think PM May will be gone by early next week, she is being more forcibly ushered by the 1922 committee now, they have an envelope with the actual number of tory MPs who have voted in a secret ballot about removing her by changing the party rules.
I don't think she'll remain the PM for many weeks or even a month or two, simply because there has to be a PM in place before she leaves the post. It does look like she'll resign tomorrow though.
I actually feel sorry for her. She took on an extremely difficult and thankless job. She knew it and she did it anyway because of her sense of duty. May made a couple of bad mistakes: calling for a new election and weakening her position, not asking the Parliament waht they wanted before negotiationg with the EU and of course dancing in public.
I‘ve read today that she‘ll stay until Trump‘s visit.
I feel sorry for her too - despite some theories among Hard Brexiteers, she and around half of the MPs know how negative a Hard Brexit will be and most experts seem to agree about that.
Her hesitance to push her country over the edge under such enormous pressure deserves respect.
I‘d be more worried about how the history books judge large parts of the Conservative Party.
And even if the next PM will be a Hard Brexiteer, I wonder how she/he plans to get the parliament majority to Brexit Hard. He/she may face the same No,No,No,No votes until new national elections.
And I can‘t see a conservative majority in the coming months.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
What I learnt in English class about their party system is most likely about to be completely outdated. A school book from 1920, 1950, 1970 or 1990 would probably say roughly the same things about British political parties, but that's the past now.
It looks like the Tories and Labour party will be decimated and two parties that didn't exist a year ago will be among the biggest parties. What will the situation be in ten years or even just five? The Brexit Party may look and sound like a single issue party, but most likely it will merge into the type of right-wing populist party that's doing well in so many countries right now. I think the Change Party is more interesting - what will it turn out to be and how much support will the party find in the long term?
Well, after I voted today I drove my mother to her polling station to vote. The turnout did seem very low and neither of the stations had the usual people standing outside in party colours. In less than an hour the broadcasting restrictions end and TV will be able to discuss the situation while waiting for the results to come in. I'll watch some of it but not stay up most of the night.
I wonder if the British political landscape would have changed without Brexit, or would the Tories and Labour stayed the dominant parties? Would the same happen, just at a slower pace?
Fun fact: after the election in India, the EU election is the biggest election in the world.
Another "fan fact": Hungary doesn't have a free press or independent courts, pretty much the only issue in the election is immigration in spite of them having nearly no immigrants, Putin is a big political hero, but they still want to remain in the EU. Why? Probably because about ten per cent of their budget comes from other EU members through the EU system.
We stand today at a crossroads: One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other leads to total extinction. Let us hope we have the wisdom to make the right choice. —Woody Allen
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
The Green parties will do well they say, and they're sceptical to extinction. It's not all bad. And the far right will be a larger minority that no-one talks to in the EU Parliament.
From a few news reports I've watched tonight, they predict that both the
Conservatives and Labour are looking at big loses. ...... The Cluster f*ck
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"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I think that's a given unfortunately, why would you vote for Labour given that they themselves don't even know what their policies are on the EU, and the Tories are just utterley paralysed as a government!
It is worrying, I doubt Boris has enough support to make the final leadership vote, I'd prefer Matt Hancock, a bit of young blood who doesn't have much dirt stuck to him.
It is worrying, I doubt Boris has enough support to make the final leadership vote, I'd prefer Matt Hancock, a bit of young blood who doesn't have much dirt stuck to him.
Boris is either loved or loathed within the Tory party & I think that will scupper his play for PM ... I'd probably favour Raab at this stage of things, but a fortnight is a long time in politics )
Edited - forgot to mention Steve Baker as a bit of a cheeky outside punt.
Just another example how self-centred UK politics are:
She waited until the EU parliament elections were over in her own country for her resignation announcement, but did not bother to wait until the end of the EU elections in the other 26 countries......
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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The leader of The Change party, says they only need
One more vote than the Brexit party to win. ...... all I
Can say is, Wow they've changed their tune.
I'm sure that editing posts is perfectly harmless. Nothing sinister, like this footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqDP8SnPVA0
Even if the withdrawal agreement gets through I doubt history will look kindly on the May premiership, infact the recent era of May and Corbyn has been marked by ineffectual politics and politicians bereft of democratic duty.
Rumours say Theresa May resign tomorrow,waht do you think?
I actually feel sorry for her. She took on an extremely difficult and thankless job. She knew it and she did it anyway because of her sense of duty. May made a couple of bad mistakes: calling for a new election and weakening her position, not asking the Parliament waht they wanted before negotiationg with the EU and of course dancing in public.
I feel sorry for her too - despite some theories among Hard Brexiteers, she and around half of the MPs know how negative a Hard Brexit will be and most experts seem to agree about that.
Her hesitance to push her country over the edge under such enormous pressure deserves respect.
I‘d be more worried about how the history books judge large parts of the Conservative Party.
And even if the next PM will be a Hard Brexiteer, I wonder how she/he plans to get the parliament majority to Brexit Hard. He/she may face the same No,No,No,No votes until new national elections.
And I can‘t see a conservative majority in the coming months.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
It looks like the Tories and Labour party will be decimated and two parties that didn't exist a year ago will be among the biggest parties. What will the situation be in ten years or even just five? The Brexit Party may look and sound like a single issue party, but most likely it will merge into the type of right-wing populist party that's doing well in so many countries right now. I think the Change Party is more interesting - what will it turn out to be and how much support will the party find in the long term?
Fun fact: after the election in India, the EU election is the biggest election in the world.
Handing out leaflets, throwing milkshakes, pretty empty.
The Green parties will do well they say, and they're sceptical to extinction. It's not all bad. And the far right will be a larger minority that no-one talks to in the EU Parliament.
Conservatives and Labour are looking at big loses. ...... The Cluster f*ck
continues
May to stand down on 7th June.
(Apologies for the spelling, it isn't mine)
Boris is either loved or loathed within the Tory party & I think that will scupper his play for PM ... I'd probably favour Raab at this stage of things, but a fortnight is a long time in politics
Edited - forgot to mention Steve Baker as a bit of a cheeky outside punt.
the Conservatives together but I agree Boris has
as many haters as fans.
She waited until the EU parliament elections were over in her own country for her resignation announcement, but did not bother to wait until the end of the EU elections in the other 26 countries......
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48308302