Bond 25 SPOILER news

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  • MFisherMFisher Posts: 745MI6 Agent
    Jesus.... that Iggy Pop travesty needs to never be played in public... ever... It sounded like a really bad joke or spoof of some kind... :s :s :s :s :s
  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    MFisher wrote:
    Jesus.... that Iggy Pop travesty needs to never be played in public... ever... It sounded like a really bad joke or spoof of some kind... :s :s :s :s :s

    With all the rumors that the film is called 007, they should just call the movie JAMES BOND then use this song as the title track. Problem solved.

    Damn that was horrible. I couldn't even bear to listen to the whole track.
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,270MI6 Agent
    I was waiting for a "Oh Behave!" voice over from Mike Myers! :))

    This track sounds like sh1t Basil! ....It is sh1t Austin! :D
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    I think it’s quite enjoyable.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,324MI6 Agent
    Yeah, Iggy's 72 and gives zero f****. Love it.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    I'm in the terrible camp on this song.
    Visit my blog, Bond Suits
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Wow!? Bond25 filming in the English channel?
    https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/17809222.ventnor-love-james-bond-film-crew-spotted-isle-wight/?ref=twtrec

    According to this local news paper for the Isle of Wight, an island off the coast of southern England, Bond25 crew were involved in filming a helicopter landing on a naval vessel.

    The paper claims that the Bond25 crew stayed here.
    https://www.eversleyhotel.uk.com/

    The hotel is located here on the island, on the English channel side.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eversley+Hotel/@50.5938302,-1.7646687,9z/data=!4m8!3m7!1s0x0:0x1c8febca00d5b35e!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d50.5933823!4d-1.2130927
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,702MI6 Agent
    A navy vessel? I like it! Hopefully Bond is in uniform too :007)
  • Arbogast777Arbogast777 Minneapolis Posts: 252MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    According to this local news paper for the Isle of Wight, an island off the coast of southern England, Bond25 crew were involved in filming a helicopter landing on a naval vessel.

    So what do you think Someone - the Naval helicopter belong to Spectre?

    {:) {[]
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    According to this local news paper for the Isle of Wight, an island off the coast of southern England, Bond25 crew were involved in filming a helicopter landing on a naval vessel.

    So what do you think Someone - the Naval helicopter belong to Spectre?

    {:) {[]

    Don't be silly... :p
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    According to this local news paper for the Isle of Wight, an island off the coast of southern England, Bond25 crew were involved in filming a helicopter landing on a naval vessel.

    So what do you think Someone - the Naval helicopter belong to Spectre?

    {:) {[]


    I wonder if Blofeld's prison might be on one of the sea forts off the coast of the Isle of Wight? They look pretty cool.
  • JellyfishJellyfish EnglandPosts: 462MI6 Agent
    This discussion makes me think about the recent events of British and Iranian forces seizing each other’s cargo ships-it could make for a really interesting and relatable scene.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    To have one ship hijacked, seems a misfortune
    Two, seems like carelessness. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Wow!? Bond25 filming in the English channel?
    https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/17809222.ventnor-love-james-bond-film-crew-spotted-isle-wight/?ref=twtrec

    According to this local news paper for the Isle of Wight, an island off the coast of southern England, Bond25 crew were involved in filming a helicopter landing on a naval vessel.

    The paper claims that the Bond25 crew stayed here.
    https://www.eversleyhotel.uk.com/

    The hotel is located here on the island, on the English channel side.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eversley+Hotel/@50.5938302,-1.7646687,9z/data=!4m8!3m7!1s0x0:0x1c8febca00d5b35e!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d50.5933823!4d-1.2130927
    Number24 wrote:
    A navy vessel? I like it! Hopefully Bond is in uniform too :007)

    Very interesting news. Would be great to see some naval scenes and hopefully Bond in his uniform again! Craig's Bond needs to be in it once during his tenure!
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    900 extras? That's a fairly big crowd.

    I believe there were between 1000 and 1500 extras involved in the SP PTS, but that was a huge street parade, so if there's 900 needed for this B25 scene, we're still talking about something very big!
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,737MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    900 extras? That's a fairly big crowd.

    I believe there were between 1000 and 1500 extras involved in the SP PTS, but that was a huge street parade, so if there's 900 needed for this B25 scene, we're still talking about something very big!

    I think there is some real question as to whether those photos from Italy were actually related to Bond 25. If you look closely, I found it a bit odd that the extras were holding what appeared to be spears.
  • Arbogast777Arbogast777 Minneapolis Posts: 252MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    I think there is some real question as to whether those photos from Italy were actually related to Bond 25. If you look closely, I found it a bit odd that the extras were holding what appeared to be spears.

    Are you talking about the Twitter video? That's from Croatia, not Italy. It looks like rehearsal for a play, hence the spears.

    But I don't think it's legit anyway...
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,737MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    I think there is some real question as to whether those photos from Italy were actually related to Bond 25. If you look closely, I found it a bit odd that the extras were holding what appeared to be spears.

    Are you talking about the Twitter video? That's from Croatia, not Italy. It looks like rehearsal for a play, hence the spears.

    But I don't think it's legit anyway...

    Getting my spoilers confused.....but yes that is the one, Croatia not Italy.
    It's funny, with nothing crazy coming from the tabs lately, things around here have calmed down nicely. Just getting the feeling that production is moving along pretty well with plenty of interesting locations. Jamaica, Norway, London, Scotland, Italy and ersatz Cuba...all very Bond worthy.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Fukunaga appears to confirm the filming on the Tyrrhenian coast is going ahead.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B0tqPJkhtCQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    This location was revealed at the Matera Bond25 production press conference back in mid-July.
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/953906/#p953906

    Fukunaga's tweet follows the impressive amount of info ajb007 user Martketto007 revealed on Twitter (https://twitter.com/marketto007/status/1157594300181557248?s=20) yesterday. Of the info that Marketto007 revealed, some of it we have heard of before. For locations, Craco is new, but Matera, Riva dei Ginepri (a beach) and Maratera aka the Tyrrhenian coast, we've heard of before.

    Craco is south west of the town of Matera, but is still in Matera province.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/75010+Craco,+Province+of+Matera,+Italy/@40.4716351,16.361025,10z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x1338a22afd500aef:0x58b36f46294f886d!8m2!3d40.3779984!4d16.4401613

    According to Wikipedia: "Craco is a ghost town and comune in the Province of Matera, in the southern Italian region of Basilicata. The old town was abandoned towards the end of the 20th century due to natural disasters. The abandonment has made Craco a tourist attraction and a popular filming location."

    Looking at Matera on Google maps, the car chase locations Marketto007's source gives all seem plausible. It's interesting that there is a church in the piazza where the chase starts...

    Murgia cemetary, we've heard about before. I'm surprised the Valhalla is going to be in Matera, that seems odd. Ed Sheeran, we've heard that before, but the Sting reference seems odd, until you learn that Fukunaga and Sting's wife, Trudy Styler, are friends and she was in Fukunaga's Maniac TV show.

    The reference to children suggests that the theories that the child we see in Norway is a clone of Madeleine, as the technology McGuffin for Bond25 is genetics, could be correct.

    Come 25 August we'll see how accurate Marketto007's source is. Previous reports have Italy filming starting mid-August. And the info's accuracy will be tested again when DC starts filming. September could be plausible as the first week or two could just be stunt work with digital face replacement being used.

    Aug. 25 to 15 Oct (52 days, or 1 month 21 days) seems like a long time to film in Italy. They had 3 weeks in Jamaica, so 7 weeks in Italy would suggest that that country is a much bigger part of the story than any of us imagined. It can't just be for the PTS. Filming for Bond25 is supposed to end in October anyway, we know that from the Prince Charles visit.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    I think there is some real question as to whether those photos from Italy were actually related to Bond 25. If you look closely, I found it a bit odd that the extras were holding what appeared to be spears.

    Are you talking about the Twitter video? That's from Croatia, not Italy. It looks like rehearsal for a play, hence the spears.

    But I don't think it's legit anyway...

    Getting my spoilers confused.....but yes that is the one, Croatia not Italy.
    It's funny, with nothing crazy coming from the tabs lately, things around here have calmed down nicely. Just getting the feeling that production is moving along pretty well with plenty of interesting locations. Jamaica, Norway, London, Scotland, Italy and ersatz Cuba...all very Bond worthy.

    Tabs calmed down? LOL Prince Charles asked to do a cameo...
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9648694/prince-charles-star-james-bond-film/

    Which neatly fits my Bond knighthood theory. :))
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/952501/#p952501

    Not a Tabloid, but UK newspaper The Independent quotes Naomie Harris (and for once it's their own story) that Bond25 may not be DC's last film.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/bond-25-daniel-craig-naomie-harris-cast-replacement-next-007-a8912856.html
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,737MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    HowardB wrote:

    Are you talking about the Twitter video? That's from Croatia, not Italy. It looks like rehearsal for a play, hence the spears.

    But I don't think it's legit anyway...

    Getting my spoilers confused.....but yes that is the one, Croatia not Italy.
    It's funny, with nothing crazy coming from the tabs lately, things around here have calmed down nicely. Just getting the feeling that production is moving along pretty well with plenty of interesting locations. Jamaica, Norway, London, Scotland, Italy and ersatz Cuba...all very Bond worthy.

    Tabs calmed down? LOL Prince Charles asked to do a cameo...
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9648694/prince-charles-star-james-bond-film/

    Which neatly fits my Bond knighthood theory. :))
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/952501/#p952501

    Not a Tabloid, but UK newspaper The Independent quotes Naomie Harris (and for once it's their own story) that Bond25 may not be DC's last film.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/bond-25-daniel-craig-naomie-harris-cast-replacement-next-007-a8912856.html

    Was thinking more in terms of getting folks riled up over the "007 to be a woman" gender stuff or Bond being neutered and PC. But I do always appreciate that the tabs always manage to get in a "cursed production" comment. :))
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,737MI6 Agent
    IMO, Bond getting a Knighthood (unless it's done secretly ie "off the books") would put a crimp in the whole being a spy/assassin thing. Of course, a Knighthood would be fine if he goes back into permanent retirement....which would spell reboot for Bond 26.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited August 2019
    Italian website sassilive.it has video of a Bond25 set being built in Matera.
    http://www.sassilive.it/cronaca/politica/james-bond-25-nei-sassi-di-matera-selfie-dei-turisti-con-la-scenografia-presso-il-belvedere-di-piazzetta-pascoli-report-video-e-foto/

    It says the set is a hotel balcony and it is being built in front of the Piazzetta Pascoli in Matera, giving it that great view across to the cathedral tower in the distance.

    Find Piazzetta Pascoli here on Google maps.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/75100+Matera,+Province+of+Matera,+Italy/@40.662652,16.6094435,105a,35y,39.96h,45t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x13477ee2482b152b:0x8f6a4ae10da9360!8m2!3d40.666379!4d16.6043199?hl=en-GB

    The article also gives a couple of new details about the filming elsewhere in Italy.
    Filming will involve almost all of the Sassi who will be the absolute and sole protagonists of the adventures of the most important secret cinema agent. Some shots will then be shot in Gravina in Puglia and on the main road 18 that crosses Maratea. They are taken in cars useful for discovering the beauties of the Tyrrhenian coast of Basilicata.

    The "main road 18" is simply the coastal road. See it here, SS18, in Google maps, along the Maratea coastline.
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/75100+Matera,+Province+of+Matera,+Italy/@39.9879883,15.6973315,12.84z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x13477ee2482b152b:0x8f6a4ae10da9360!8m2!3d40.666379!4d16.6043199?hl=en-GB
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    IMO, Bond getting a Knighthood (unless it's done secretly ie "off the books") would put a crimp in the whole being a spy/assassin thing. Of course, a Knighthood would be fine if he goes back into permanent retirement....which would spell reboot for Bond 26.

    I agree a Knighthood should mean its DC's last film.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,737MI6 Agent
    If we want to be rational about this whole Knighthood thing, is it even realistic or make any sense, even if in the fantasy world of James Bond, (especially in the Craig/Bond era), that a "00", for all intents and purposes an assassin is given a Knighthood? An assassin who has made a lot of enemies over the years.... I pose this as a hypothetical question coming from an American without much knowledge of how Knighthoods work.
  • 005005 Posts: 138MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    If we want to be rational about this whole Knighthood thing, is it even realistic or make any sense, even if in the fantasy world of James Bond, (especially in the Craig/Bond era), that a "00", for all intents and purposes an assassin is given a Knighthood? An assassin who has made a lot of enemies over the years.... I pose this as a hypothetical question coming from an American without much knowledge of how Knighthoods work.

    If he saves the World? Or even just saves the UK? Yeah why not? Seems more worthy than being a popular movie star? I mean, if Connery and Moore can be knighted, why not bond himself.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    New video of the Matera, Piazzetta Pascoli cliff edge/hotel balcony set construction.
    https://www.tgcal24.it/cinema-matera-si-prepara-a-ospitare-il-set-del-nuovo-film-di-007-video/
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited August 2019
    PART ONE - This post got a bit big, so it's in two parts.

    I find it strange that apparently 81 minutes of the film could be in Cuba and Jamaica (See Minute marks in part two) and yet the exterior location work done for these locations (27 April to 12 May) would only produce about 11 minutes of screentime and Norway would seem to be a third act location, but the only possible third act location work we know of is one car chase (or maybe two?) that spans a similar small amount of screen time.

    The 11 minutes of Jamaica/Cuba screen time filming calculation is based on my anlaysis of past DC films' runtimes and the number of weeks they had for principle photogaphy. Quantum is the exception in all this, but it works out for DC's films as an average of five minutes of screen time produced per week, for a seven month filming period. That is an average because obviously a week of stunt work produces far less than 5mins of screentime and the very controlled environment of a studio means they can complete a lot more screen time than 5mins per week.

    Looking at the Bond25 principle photography schedule, we understand that it is mainly from 25 April to 15 October (Fukunaga said during the Prince Charles visit that they stop filming in October), 25 weeks, plus one week for the March Norway filming, so 26 weeks. This equates to 5.4 minutes of screentime per week for a 2h 20min film. It drops to 5mins if it is a 2h 10min film.

    Anyway, the apparent Norway chase filming (probably by a splinter unit) on the Atlantic road, and apparently continued later in Scotland, appeared to show Bond and Madeleine doubles with face replacement dots. But the post-PTS Scandinavian villa attack sequence would not seem to have Bond and Madeleine involved because it comes immediately after the PTS, scene 15K, when we know Bond is retired (and it appears to be a different season).

    So, the Norway chase involving Bond and Madeleine must be in the third act based on the chronology we know of due to the clapperboards (I will return to the Cuba/Jamaica mystery further down). These are the clapperboards (time stamp estimates are based on 42 seconds per scene, which I justify here https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/954169/#p954169);

    Scene
    15K (10.5 minutes) - Norway
    78 (54 minutes) - Jamaica
    108 (75 minutes) - Cuba (start, middle or end of Cuba sequence?)
    139 (97 minutes) - London
    152 (106 minutes) - London
    155 (108 minutes) - London

    Yet we know of no other Norway related principle filming (leading cast) location work which would make the story make sense. I had speculated that MI6 psychologist Swann (and Blofeld psychoanalyst/interrogator) teams up with her ex, Bond, to find the scientist in the third act. But, there doesn't seem to be enough filming planned for 'Norway' to fill the usual 25-30 minute third act.

    But, there will be for Italy following the Marketto007 revelations of the last few days.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited August 2019
    PART TWO

    The Italy schedule, about 17 August to 15 October, is 7.4 weeks, or 40 minutes. MI6-hq.com had reported that Bond25 production (https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/dates-for-shooting-in-italy-confirmed-by-local-press-190407) arrives in Italy on 12 August but we now know they are already there.

    The Italy locations are, Matera, a region as well as a town, Gravina (20mi from Matera town) and Murgia (25mi), both in the Puglia region; Craco (35mi from Matera town), which is also in the Matera region; Riva dei Ginepri (a restaurant next to the Lido del sole, which translates to beach of the sun) which is 40mi from Matera town; and the Maratera/Tyrrhenian coast in the Potenza region, 180mi from Matera town. So, we have six Italian locations for seven weeks of filming, or about 35 minutes of screen time.

    The Matera car chase PTS needs only two weeks tops for filming its seven minutes. This seven minutes is calculated starting with scene 15 coming (42*15/60=10.5) 10.5 minutes into the film and the titles/theme song sequence will likely be 3-4 minutes long based on Spectre's and Skyfall's.

    The remaining five weeks in Italy can then be used for the other locations. Five weeks equates to about 27 minutes. That would be the third act from 108 minutes (where Act II ends with scene 155 at the Hamersmith bridge - see above) to 137 minutes; with 2-3 minutes left for the epilogue (https://www.ajb007.co.uk/search/1085391116/). For example, Spectre's "I thought you'd left" sequence.

    Ah, you might say, what about all the Pinewood studios filming? Maybe a Norwegian third act does have a lot of interior filming, but so must Cuba and Jamaica.

    The Pinewood/London filming schedule was from 13 May to 17 August, 13 weeks, and that equates to 70 minutes. With 81 mins of screentime for Jamaica and Cuba (See Minute marks below), minus 11 minutes for the Jamaica location filming, you have 70 minutes of filming left for Pinewood - including Cuba exterior street action scenes.

    Minute marks - based on the clapperboard numbers and 42secs per scene.
    0-7 Italy PTS
    3-4 minute title sequence
    10.5-16 Norway
    16-54 Jamaica (38 minutes in Jamaica? Isn't that way too much time for Leiter to meet Bond and they go off on their mission?*)
    54-97 Cuba
    97-108 London
    108-137 Norway or Italy? Not based on clapperboards. Speculation.
    137-140 Epilogue. Not based on clapperboards. Speculation.

    So, the Pinewood filming, as we know it, is all used up. Yet, we know they filmed M office scenes from the Prince Charles visit and we know from scenes 139 to 155 were Bond in London, which amounts to about 10 minutes of screen time. That would need 2 weeks. The Marketto007 info provides the answer.

    The stuntmen go to Italy in mid-August but as Marketto007's info says, DC gets there in early September (2 Sept is a Monday), with other cast membes no doubt, and so that gives them an extra two weeks at Pinewood.

    We are still left with no apparent interior filming for Norway, despite speculation that the Scottish castle recently seen with Bond25 crew quarters located nearby will be in the film.

    *a Blofeld UK jail break sequence? In July, we know Christoph Waltz was filming scenes at Pinewood.
  • Revs1972Revs1972 Posts: 78MI6 Agent
    Still plenty of filming to be done at Pinewood
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