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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Red_Snow wrote:
    Is there somebody worse than Blofeld?” teases producer Michael G. Wilson of 007’s new adversary. “Well, maybe there is, out there...”

    I'm hoping this indicates that Safin destroys Spectre. It would seem appropriate for DC's Bond that he ends his run and Spectre also comes to an end.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Red_Snow wrote:
    Is there somebody worse than Blofeld?” teases producer Michael G. Wilson of 007’s new adversary. “Well, maybe there is, out there...”

    I'm hoping this indicates that Safin destroys Spectre. It would seem appropriate for DC's Bond that he ends his run and Spectre also comes to an end.
    That’s a fun idea.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    I've been wondering how much of Q we will see in NTTD as his character poster was one of the six released, while Naomi Harris' poster was released on her Instagram account, and, like SPECTRE, Ben Whishaw's name comes before Noami's and Ralph's on the credits. I am wondering if it is just a matter of Whishaw having a better agent; after all, Fiennes' name has an 'and' credit, usually reserved for big names whose role is small.

    These are the scenes/sequences Q and Moneypenny are in in Spectre.

    Moneypenny sees Bond at MI6 hq.
    Moneypenny visits Bond at his flat and they discuss Olivia Mansfield's video message.

    Q injects Bond with the tracking microchips and teases Bond about the DB5 and the DB10 and gives him the watch and Bond gets Q to help him.

    Moneypenny provides info during the Rome chase and translates article about Oberhausers' avalanche deaths.

    Q covers for Bond when M calls and Q turns up at the Hoffler Klinik.
    Q is chased by Spectre goons.
    Q, Bond and Madeleine scene in hotel.

    Q is with M and Tanner in the London safe house.

    Q and Moneypenny are with Tanner in the car.
    Q is with M in MI6 hq when they confront C.
    Q shuts down Nine Eyes.

    Q says goodbye to Bond.

    So, we can see that Q is involved in a number of key scenes and appears more often than Moneypenny.

    In NTTD, we know Q turns up two thirds of the way through the film with Bond's visit with Moneypenny and Bond asks him for a plane. We could assume that we would see Moneypenny and Q interact with Nomi earlier in the film, but this must be a very limited number of scenes.

    As Q appears throughout Spectre at various points, this leads me to guess that Q must have a much larger role in the third act, either flying Bond to wherever he wants to go or getting kidnapped as has been speculated.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,703MI6 Agent
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,698MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:

    One of those pics reminds me of Casino Royale. Another pic reminds me of Skyfall.
    Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Mr Martini wrote:
    Number24 wrote:

    One of those pics reminds me of Casino Royale. Another pic reminds me of Skyfall.

    Sarcasm right? :))
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,698MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Mr Martini wrote:
    Number24 wrote:

    One of those pics reminds me of Casino Royale. Another pic reminds me of Skyfall.

    Sarcasm right? :))


    Nope.
    Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Mr Martini wrote:
    JTM wrote:
    Mr Martini wrote:

    One of those pics reminds me of Casino Royale. Another pic reminds me of Skyfall.

    Sarcasm right? :))


    Nope.

    Ah okay: he said that because those pics are actually from CR and Skyfall: there's only one photo there from NTTD :)
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,698MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    Mr Martini wrote:
    JTM wrote:

    Sarcasm right? :))




    Nope.

    Ah okay: he said that because those pics are actually from CR and Skyfall: there's only one photo there from NTTD :)


    Kind of misleading to me when theres a No Time To Die banner slapped on picture that looks like it was from Skyfall. And I honestly didn't see Spectre written on the clapperboards. I just saw the clapperboards and ignored what was written on them. I took them as what then seem to be presented to be, promo shots for No Time To Die. I feel kind of dumb now.
    Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,703MI6 Agent
    At least you're not alone ...…. :# :))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    As long as I'm on AJB, No one else need worry about being dumb
    That's my "Thing" ;)
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Thinking about the Spectre and Skyfall teaser and final trailers, both of which showed a lot of additional material not in the full trailer, I think the next NTTD trailer will expand on the scenes we have already seen.

    I think Blofeld's role in NTTD is similar to Mr White's in Spectre, and like Spectre's teaser trailer which had a Mr White focus, Blofeld and Madeleine's secret could be the focus in the next NTTD trailer, which maybe a Super Bowl trailer; the final Spectre trailer was 1min 10sec of additional shots from scenes already shown and this length trailer has been shown during the Super Bowl.

    If not Blofeld, then the NTTD Super Bowl trailer could be shots from the Cuba chase/gun battle, the Safin lair/lab attack, the Porton Down attack, more of Bond in London and MI6 and Madeleine.

    I am guessing that the Madeleine storyline will be kept for a 30sec TV spot aimed at encouraging women to see the film.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,703MI6 Agent
    I think Nomi is an even better character for getting women to see NTTD.
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    edited December 2019
    Someone wrote:
    With some exceptions.

    The ice lake is a dream that Madeleine wakes up from, then we are in matera, Bond pretends to be asleep while she goes to look at the mask. After Bond jumps off the bridge, he continues the fight through some tunnel beneath the bridge, as we see at the end of the trailer. Then the gunbarrel transitions into the song.

    Also nothing is going to replace spectre.

    The clothes Bond is wearing in the tunnel are the clothes he's wearing in the lair, its the tactical trousers with the white long sleeved top. It's not a tunnel under the bridge he jumps off.

    I don't think it's a dream, it has to be a reality, a flashback, and that explains the broken mask in the box we apparently see Madeleine looking at in another trailer shot. But I don't think she is looking at the mask while they are in the hotel, that doesn't make sense to me.

    I have noticed that the Caucasian woman looking in the mask box (we know her ethnicity from her hand) is not wearing the same clothes as Madeleine is in the shot of Madeleine with tears in her eyes. And in that crying shot it looks like an office interior and not a hotel and not the interior we saw in the BTS leak photos of the Matera hotel suite.

    BTW the woman opening the box is wearing a dark cream coloured top while crying Madeleine is wearing a black top.

    So, IMHO it is possible that the shot of the mask box being opened and the shot of Madeleine with tears in her eyes may not be the same scene.

    The tunnel thing checks out. I got the suspenders confused with the ones he wears in Matera. Still weird, because it is obviously a gunbarrel sequence in the middle of the movie.

    Not the shot of Madeleine wearing black crying. Maddy is wearing white when she crawls out of bed. Then they cut to opening the box. Looks like the same shirt.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    BTW the woman opening the box is wearing a dark cream coloured top while crying Madeleine is wearing a black top.

    Not the shot of Madeleine wearing black crying. Maddy is wearing white when she crawls out of bed. Then they cut to opening the box. Looks like the same shirt.


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    The mask box hand does look like Madeleine's but I find the shot is too dark to make out if it is is from that hotel scene. I don't understand why she would be carrying that box around.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    BTW the woman opening the box is wearing a dark cream coloured top while crying Madeleine is wearing a black top.

    Not the shot of Madeleine wearing black crying. Maddy is wearing white when she crawls out of bed. Then they cut to opening the box. Looks like the same shirt.


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    The mask box hand does look like Madeleine's but I find the shot is too dark to make out if it is is from that hotel scene. I don't understand why she would be carrying that box around.
    Is she wearing Bonds Henley?
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited December 2019
    Now we know why Bond goes to see Blofeld. The Empire magazine article explains that Blofeld speaks to the Cuba SPECTRE gathering remotely. It's the one and only fact we get about the movie on that page.

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    On The Spy Command website it says that the Empire NTTD preview has a "a couple of passages that partially explain scenes that are included in the movie’s trailer (Bond’s black tie scene and a seaplane)."
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2019/12/22/odds-and-ends-from-empires-nttd-story/

    I can't see anything about the seaplane from the pictures of the article text on social media and I'm not in the UK this xmas to buy a copy of Empire. Has anyone seen the passage that refers to the seaplane? The black tie scene is explained by the main page of text from the magazine, seen above, that is from the Springhouse Twitter account.
  • HMSS WeblogHMSS Weblog Posts: 14MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Now we know why Bond goes to see Blofeld. The Empire magazine article explains that Blofeld speaks to the Cuba SPECTRE gathering remotely. It's the one and only fact we get about the movie on that page.

    NTTD2.png

    On The Spy Command website it says that the Empire NTTD preview has a "a couple of passages that partially explain scenes that are included in the movie’s trailer (Bond’s black tie scene and a seaplane)."
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2019/12/22/odds-and-ends-from-empires-nttd-story/

    I can't see anything about the seaplane from the pictures of the article text on social media and I'm not in the UK this xmas to buy a copy of Empire. Has anyone seen the passage that refers to the seaplane? The black tie scene is explained by the main page of text from the magazine, seen above, that is from the Springhouse Twitter account.

    All of the text is now out there. I've seen it on the MI6 Forums.

    Re: Seaplane: Empire describes the stunt (it was filmed by the second unit in Jamaica), specifying that Bond is piloting the plane.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    So, if Malek is supposed to be Dr. No rebooted (not saying it is), perhaps that makes the title slightly clever.
  • HalconHalcon Zen TemplePosts: 486MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    So, if Malek is supposed to be Dr. No rebooted (not saying it is), perhaps that makes the title slightly clever.

    it does indeed, here's hoping it is in fact Dr No
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    edited December 2019
    Re: Seaplane: Empire describes the stunt (it was filmed by the second unit in Jamaica), specifying that Bond is piloting the plane.

    Thanks. Not much there then. I'd guessed that seaplane flight ends the Cuba sequence.

    What eludes me about NTTD is Bond's motivation during the movie. We know from The Empire magazine article that Blofeld speaks to Bond, albeit remotely, at the Cuba Spectre meeting/party; does he sow seeds of suspicion? Bond finding out, or suspecting, that MI6 and CIA have been infiltrated by Spectre/Safin's outfit could explain Bond's return to London.

    But how does going to Cuba for Leiter in the first place help Bond's situation, apparently living in hiding? Bond jumped off a bridge and faked his own death to evade Spectre, I get that, but then why not go back to MI6 and fight Spectre that way, rather than hide in Jamaica?

    Double agents within the CIA and MI6 would not explain Bond's need for a plane. And why does Bond need to go to Q for a plane? If he also finds out in Cuba some terrible plot by Safin to destroy the world, why isn't M helping Bond? So, Bond must find something out in Cuba which is a personal mission, but it doesn't seem to involve Madeleine.

    Madeleine's secret seems to be about her links with Spectre due to her family and the incident when as a girl she is saved from the ice lake by Safin. But in the trailer, when Bond goes to see Blofeld, he is surprised to see Madeleine, so he clearly did not intend to see her and Blofeld. And he went to Q and asked for a plane before he went to see Blofeld, he didn't go to see Madeleine first.

    In the trailer, Bond and Madeleine seem to be having an argument in Wakefield prison with the exchange, Bond, "what is it?" Madeleine, "you don't know what this is?" and also in the trailer Blofeld says, 'her secret, when it comes out, will be the death of you'. What else does Blofeld say to Bond that makes him want to take Madeleine and for her to go?

    Is Madeleine the bait for Safin? Does Bond take Madeleine to draw out Safin? If you'd once done your best to save a woman from your enemy, why would you take her to them, or an organisation worse than them, later? Too many questions.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    No Time To Die: Rami Malek On How Freddie Mercury Inspired New Villain Safin
    https://empireonline.com/movies/news/rami-malek-how-freddie-mercury-influenced-villain-safin-cary-fukunaga/

    Speaking to Empire in the upcoming world exclusive No Time To Die issue, on sale from Friday 27 December, Malek revealed the lesson he took from Freddie Mercury for the role. “If I went in there and tried to make a carbon copy of someone, what joy or fun would that be for anybody? I guess that may be a lesson I learned from Mr. Mercury. If it’s not original, then why bother?” he explains. “I’ve pocketed some things from some of my favourites. But I tried to every day imbue this character with something I thought made sense for the character, but might also at the same time be shocking and unnerving.”

    The role saw Malek once again team up with his Bohemian Rhapsody dialogue coach William Conacher to figure out the right villainous voice. “I wanted to create something that we couldn’t quite peg from any particular part of the world,” he teases.
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  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    No Time To Die’s Lashana Lynch Responds To 007 Rumours
    https://empireonline.com/movies/news/lashana-lynch-responds-007-rumours-no-time-to-die-bond-cary-fukunaga/

    Speaking in Empire’s world exclusive No Time To Die issue, Lynch responded to the rumour-mill and the wider conversation that has sprung from the prospect of a black, female 007 being part of the 25th Bond movie – though she wouldn’t confirm or deny if that was the case. “I can say that, though the reactions to such a rumour have been varied, I love that the conversation is even happening,” she says. “And I think that’s really exciting for long-running fans, new fans, but also young people that would potentially have that as not even an idea, as something that is just normal for them. That’s really special for me. Whether something like that is happening or not as a fact, at this point doesn’t even matter for me. The conversation is enough. As a fly on the social-media wall, it’s bleedin’ brilliant.”
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    This new picture of Bond in assault gear would appear to confirm that the Safin lair/mine is in Russia.
    https://twitter.com/tvs_movies/status/1210464550115532801/photo/1

    The lettering on the wall behind Bond does fit the cyrillic alphabet, especially the n like character.

    Below is a link to a picture of the cyrillic alphabet.
    https://www.123rf.com/photo_77882512_stock-vector-cyrillic-alphabet-on-white-background-vector-image.html
  • ggl007ggl007 SpainPosts: 388MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    This new picture of Bond in assault gear would appear to confirm that the Safin lair/mine is in Russia.
    https://twitter.com/tvs_movies/status/1210464550115532801/photo/1

    The lettering on the wall behind Bond does fit the cyrillic alphabet, especially the n like character.

    Below is a link to a picture of the cyrillic alphabet.
    https://www.123rf.com/photo_77882512_stock-vector-cyrillic-alphabet-on-white-background-vector-image.html

    "Restricted Area"
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    ggl007 wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    This new picture of Bond in assault gear would appear to confirm that the Safin lair/mine is in Russia.
    https://twitter.com/tvs_movies/status/1210464550115532801/photo/1

    The lettering on the wall behind Bond does fit the cyrillic alphabet, especially the n like character.

    Below is a link to a picture of the cyrillic alphabet.
    https://www.123rf.com/photo_77882512_stock-vector-cyrillic-alphabet-on-white-background-vector-image.html

    "Restricted Area"

    Wow, yeah, you're right! This is from Google Translate.

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  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 538MI6 Agent
    No Time to Die is a 1958 movie directed by Terrence Young and produced by Cubby Broccoli, released in the US as Tank Force.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    No Time to Die is a 1958 movie directed by Terrence Young and produced by Cubby Broccoli, released in the US as Tank Force.

    Not a spoiler...
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    No Time to Die is a 1958 movie directed by Terrence Young and produced by Cubby Broccoli, released in the US as Tank Force.

    No Time to Die is also a 2020 movie directed by Cary Joji Fukunaga and produced by Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, released in the US as No Time to Die...I think this one might be a little more relevant to this thread, and this website ;)
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,537MI6 Agent
    Spring House has some BTS pictures in its most recent tweets and one includes a clapperboard.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1213020650413154304?s=20

    The crew appear to be sitting on the rocks on the beach where we saw Nomi and Madeleine and we see a clapperboard and it has the scene number 243. There was a clapperboard with the scene 253 in a previous picture (https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/958543/#p958543).

    That picture with scene 253 is just a clapperboard on a table and it was always possible that was a bit of mischief, but this scene 243 picture clearly links it with a location and crew. Scene 243 would be at 170 minutes, 2 hours 50 minutes. It gives credence that NTTD is going to be a very long Bond film.

    Or, there are scenes 243 and 253 because Fukunaga deleted huge numbers of scenes. If you look through the leaked Spectre script there are page and pages of scenes there either were never filmed or were cut. I could imagine that Fukunaga and Scott Burns tore a lot out and and added additional scenes, so that would explain the high scene numbers.
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