As the superOcean is from 1957, it‘s certainly wrong to accuse them for „taking design cues“ from the 2019 NTTD Seamaster.
It‘s more the other way round....
In 1957, supersonic speed and space capsules where the thing and the hour markers are inspired by that
At least Breitling did something very unique and different compared to the other makers.
And they managed in 1957 to avoid those lug gaps....
Another taking it’s design cues from the NTTD Seamaster?
....
Yes, clearly they’ve looked into their back catalogue and not taken design cues from Omega.
But a good time to re-release this design. It’s also a lot cheaper than the Omega.
As the superOcean is from 1957, it‘s certainly wrong to accuse them for „taking design cues“ from the 2019 NTTD Seamaster.
It‘s more the other way round....
It's clear you're trying to start an argument again, but nevertheless, perhaps they dug around in their old history to find something that corresponds to a current craze.
And a bezel that doesn't make sense in 1957 still doesn't make sense today.
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The bezel is designed like that so that it can be used in the conventional way or as a countdown target. This allows it to be used more effectively for a greater range of timing scenarios beyond being specifically a diving aid. As people today rarely use the bezel for diving and moreso for timing their cooking and parking etc, the design is more relevant today than it was back then. As long as the wearer is competent with the 5 times table, it’s very simple to operate without numerals.
The bezel is designed like that so that it can be used in the conventional way or as a countdown target. This allows it to be used more effectively for a greater range of timing scenarios beyond being specifically a diving aid. As people today rarely use the bezel for diving and moreso for timing their cooking and parking etc, the design is more relevant today than it was back then. As long as the wearer is competent with the 5 times table, it’s very simple to operate without numerals.
Yeah I use them to time things. At a glance it's much easier to read something rather than count all the way around: if you're going to do that there's not much point in having a bezel in the first place.
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The bezel is designed like that so that it can be used in the conventional way or as a countdown target. This allows it to be used more effectively for a greater range of timing scenarios beyond being specifically a diving aid. As people today rarely use the bezel for diving and moreso for timing their cooking and parking etc, the design is more relevant today than it was back then. As long as the wearer is competent with the 5 times table, it’s very simple to operate without numerals.
Yeah I use them to time things. At a glance it's much easier to read something rather than count all the way around: if you're going to do that there's not much point in having a bezel in the first place.
It don’t think you’re getting how it works. You use it as a countdown timer to the arrow rather than reading elapsed time. Just as easy, if not easier as using a numbered version but in a different way. It’s actually simpler to read it at a glance as all you’re doing is reading the minute hand and arrow and without the numbers it’s a quicker acquisition. I sometimes use my Subs bezel in the same way, but because it’s numbered backwards for this method, it makes setting it harder.
Omega have a seamaster with the same bezel use, but it’s numbered in reverse. This works, but like the Sub, you can’t use it well using both methods as the numbers just confuse. That’s why brands just use batons or quarter markers and no numerals at all.
The bezel is designed like that so that it can be used in the conventional way or as a countdown target. This allows it to be used more effectively for a greater range of timing scenarios beyond being specifically a diving aid. As people today rarely use the bezel for diving and moreso for timing their cooking and parking etc, the design is more relevant today than it was back then. As long as the wearer is competent with the 5 times table, it’s very simple to operate without numerals.
Yeah I use them to time things. At a glance it's much easier to read something rather than count all the way around: if you're going to do that there's not much point in having a bezel in the first place.
It don’t think you’re getting how it works. You use it as a countdown timer to the arrow rather than reading elapsed time. Just as easy, if not easier as using a numbered version but in a different way. It’s actually simpler to read it at a glance as all you’re doing is reading the minute hand and arrow and without the numbers it’s a quicker acquisition. I sometimes use my Subs bezel in the same way, but because it’s numbered backwards for this method, it makes setting it harder.
Omega have a seamaster with the same bezel use, but it’s numbered in reverse. This works, but like the Sub, you can’t use it well using both methods as the numbers just confuse. That’s why brands just use batons or quarter markers and no numerals at all.
Oh I see what you mean. Sounds fine but I prefer a numbered version.
I actually like the look and some of the details of the watch. Particularly the bezel and the leather strap.
Not sure about the gun barrel but don’t hate it.
But... I think the NTTD Seamaster is overpriced at £7300. £42,000 is madness!!!
If it was stainless steel and priced nearer £4K - £5K it’d be interesting.
I wish Omega would tone down the Bond association with their special editions and also take a step back on the ridiculous price increases! I mean 60k for a Seamaster is ridiculous 8-)
I am guessing the hard truth is these damn things sell and thats all that matters - Omega must be well aware of the cheesiness it brings to their brand by reading any popular watch forum.
Presumably there will be another one in 2020 - its only August )
Nice watch and obviously only for those with more money than sense - but I am sure in that world it will be like the Spectre SM300 was for the rest of us.
Have to say I also tried on the NTTD SM300 boy that baby is light! But I actually liked it on the wrist (though you could be forgiven for thinking you forgot to put your watch on that morning). So making enquires through my channels, only sticking point was the AD tried to tell me pay 50% deposit now and get in in Dec - I don’t think so )
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
It's the materials then that are supposed to make this one more valuable, is it?
So, the bottle of very high quality whisky attached to a DB5 piston I can just about see is trying to be worthy of the £50K price, especially when it's legitimately very limited (less than 30 being made). With this one it's hard to see where the perceived value is.
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Yes, clearly they’ve looked into their back catalogue and not taken design cues from Omega.
But a good time to re-release this design. It’s also a lot cheaper than the Omega.
It's clear you're trying to start an argument again, but nevertheless, perhaps they dug around in their old history to find something that corresponds to a current craze.
And a bezel that doesn't make sense in 1957 still doesn't make sense today.
https://diveintowatches.com/2020/02/03/omega-007-seamaster-ausstellung/
The Hanhart x The Rake & Revolution Limited Edition Bronze 417 Chronograph.
https://therake.com/stories/introducing-the-hanhart-x-the-rake-revolution-limited-edition-bronze-417-chronograph/
Not sure why in bronze though but guess will look cool once the Patina kicks in
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDyQTh1FjUf/?igshid=14ylghttf4i93
Case: 42mm diameter - platinum-gold case, brushed and polished - unidirectional bezel, 60-minute insert in black ceramic with platinum diving scale in positive relief - helium escape valve - sapphire crystals front and caseback - screw-in crown - 300m water-resistant
https://monochrome-watches.com/omega-seamaster-diver-300m-james-bond-numbered-edition-platinum-gold-price/
This watch (ref. 210.93.42.20.01.001) will be a numbered but not limited edition. It will retail for EUR 48,800
WTF is Platinum-Gold?
950/- Platinum and some % of Gold?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Yeah I use them to time things. At a glance it's much easier to read something rather than count all the way around: if you're going to do that there's not much point in having a bezel in the first place.
It don’t think you’re getting how it works. You use it as a countdown timer to the arrow rather than reading elapsed time. Just as easy, if not easier as using a numbered version but in a different way. It’s actually simpler to read it at a glance as all you’re doing is reading the minute hand and arrow and without the numbers it’s a quicker acquisition. I sometimes use my Subs bezel in the same way, but because it’s numbered backwards for this method, it makes setting it harder.
Omega have a seamaster with the same bezel use, but it’s numbered in reverse. This works, but like the Sub, you can’t use it well using both methods as the numbers just confuse. That’s why brands just use batons or quarter markers and no numerals at all.
Omega's new slogan should be "More Is Less"
Oh I see what you mean. Sounds fine but I prefer a numbered version.
Not sure about the gun barrel but don’t hate it.
But... I think the NTTD Seamaster is overpriced at £7300. £42,000 is madness!!!
If it was stainless steel and priced nearer £4K - £5K it’d be interesting.
Same. It always reminds me of a movie tie-in watch you'd get with a Happy Meal or something.
And I prefer the kitschiness of these Jurassic Park watches to the $50,000 Omega. Honestly.
They're fun!
I actually prefer the ones where they've just put the 007 logo on!
Presumably there will be another one in 2020 - its only August )
Have to say I also tried on the NTTD SM300 boy that baby is light! But I actually liked it on the wrist (though you could be forgiven for thinking you forgot to put your watch on that morning). So making enquires through my channels, only sticking point was the AD tried to tell me pay 50% deposit now and get in in Dec - I don’t think so )
Cheers :007)
£41,740 for a watch that looks almost exactly the same as their own watch that costs £5,000.
Omega, you should have saved this for April 1st )
So, the bottle of very high quality whisky attached to a DB5 piston I can just about see is trying to be worthy of the £50K price, especially when it's legitimately very limited (less than 30 being made). With this one it's hard to see where the perceived value is.
Evenin’ all.
Don’t start throwing bottles at me but what’s the general consensus on Fillipo Loretti and Vincero watches?
Not buying, just seeking opinions.
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You get € 100 worth of a watch.
Imo a waste of money.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
You can get great Casios and Seikos for that.
Yep, I’d look at a seiko in that range.