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The Domino Effect wrote:

The land that Palmyra sits on is likely worth a fortune for hotel/condo developers. When it changes hands, I can't imagine it being a single private property again. It will be bull-dozed and gone forever. The family claim to be very attached to it, but considering that they're not short of money and yet  it's falling apart around them, I strongly suspect they're just waiting for the right offer...the right mega offer.

Not so. I have the owner's phone number and have brought several tour groups through with his express permission and am bringing a group there when we cruise in March (hint-hint).

It's owned by a widower, one of the biggest island developers, the property will stay with his company upon his passing, to be turned into a newer condo space with a few units.

I still would like to see it become a museum/attraction but get in while you can with me!

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Interesting indeed, one of the main reasons I resurrected this thread was simply due to the fact my missus is planning next years vacation well in advance and we will no doubt end up in Florida yet again etc.  I think I will use the opportunity to visit Nassau and do the usual Bond stuff hence was researching all the bits and I remembered this great thread!!!!

I must agree Thunderball is prob also my fave 007 flick, everything is so damn exotic and has all the magic Bond ingredients (inc the best ladies!)  Prob why I love the first half of Casino Royale also when they revisit!!!

Although the estate is now degrading and run down etc its still very cool to still see it in practically its original form, you would expect most places to have been heavily modified etc over the years and then left to crumble!!

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welshboy78 wrote:

Interesting indeed, one of the main reasons I resurrected this thread was simply due to the fact my missus is planning next years vacation well in advance and we will no doubt end up in Florida yet again etc.  I think I will use the opportunity to visit Nassau and do the usual Bond stuff hence was researching all the bits and I remembered this great thread!!!!

I must agree Thunderball is prob also my fave 007 flick, everything is so damn exotic and has all the magic Bond ingredients (inc the best ladies!)  Prob why I love the first half of Casino Royale also when they revisit!!!

Although the estate is now degrading and run down etc its still very cool to still see it in practically its original form, you would expect most places to have been heavily modified etc over the years and then left to crumble!!

Well, be sure to look me up when coming to Florida, OO7, to visit me and another local collector with screen used props, rare books, toys, autographs, etc, etc.

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Its interesting reading through this thread. I stumbled across it a couple years ago doing some research on the original history of Rock Point before my grandfather George Mosko purchased it. I made an account back in 2013, but never used it until now. I was actually trying to do some research on a mural that is in the pool house on the property. I am working with a local very talented artist to restore it. Contrary to popular belief, we will not be tearing down the house. In fact it is quite the opposite. At some point Rock Point will hopefully be restored to its former glory in the following years. My grandfather really does love the house, but he didn't like to spend money on the outside of a house that got battered every single year by hurricanes. Having to shovel the sand out of your living room after every hurricane is no fun. Dont let the outside fool you, until a couple years ago the inside was a lot nicer than the outside would lead you to believe. Until some criminals decided to try burn it down. But Rock point is a tough old girl  and shook it off. The Abaco pine lining the attic doesn't burn so well, and almost everything nice was salvaged. There is a lot of cypress hand carved stuff throughout the house and its all in good shape. While the house does need a lot of work, there are zero plans to tear it down. My grandfather enjoyed every square inch of that property, gathering welks and curbs on the rocks, walking the beach, Having family get functions, or watching the sunset with my grandmother when she was still alive. He was robbed at gunpoint multiple times in that house, and still wouldn't move at 80. There is still a bullet hole in the front door window from the last robbery from my grandfathers gun where he fought with the robber. also my grandfathers original profession was a master carpenter. most prominent families in Nassau have mahogany furniture made by him in their dining rooms. The huge table in govt house was made by him. There is even a piece currently in one of the royal palaces in Britain made by him. His full name was originally George James Moskovakis, he later shortened it to Mosko. It is now George James Mosko OBE. He didnt really have a problem with people asking to see the property, but there were a lot of people who would just tresspass anyway. people would just come wandering through the pool deck like it was nothing. I was raised in the house from a small child, and have many enjoyable memories there right through my adult life, as do the rest of my family. It is an amazing house, and when it was built no expense was spared, everything was bespoke.

I can promise you that Palmyra will live on, it may not happen right away, but it will never be torn down. or sold

Regards

George Mosko

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What a great update and good news! Thank you for taking the time to update us all and very best wishes to your family. Happy Christmas!

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What an interesting story, bundles78. I'm glad to hear that the house won't be torn down, but I'm so sorry to hear about all the trouble your family has had. Hurricanes I can expect, but criminal activity is sad. Is it possible to build some sort of protection around the house? And my grandfather was also a carpenter who made mahogany furniture, so that's very nice to know.

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Really interesting post  bundles78.  ajb007/martini

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George, that is great news and it feels like you have given the Bond community a great Xmas present, to lose such an iconic location would have been terrible.  I would love to see the place restored to it's former glory.  ajb007/cheers

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Marvelous news, Mr. Mosko! With your grandfather's kind permission, I've brought several groups to enjoy the property over the years. We'd been told the plans were to take this beautiful promontory and beach and build new condos. Again, just in the last few weeks, several people asked me what were the plans for the site, so this is welcome news indeed to all Bond fans and fans of beautiful, historic New Providence. Thank you for sharing!

The members here at AJB are among the most knowledgeable Bond fans in the world. Some here have connections to the Bond movie folks and the heirs of Ian Fleming. In addition to supporting the Salvation Army, a cause near to your grandfather's heart, I'd previously offered to Mr. Mosko help from the Ian Fleming Foundation in restoring the home and/or advising on specifications to make everything just like it was during filming in 1965 (if that is desired).

Please know AJB and IFF and others are happy to help. Let me please say thank you again for marvelous hospitality for my visiting tour groups over the years. Particularly on my Bond trips visiting the Bahamas, many of the attendees present love Thunderball above all and it has been a literal dream come true to visit Rock Point. Please count on me and the folks here if you require any details, history, etc. or want to get in touch with Luciana Paluzzi and the actors and technical crew who were present during the Thunderball shoot to say hello, answer questions or help guide your restoration planning.

Thank you again!

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This is a great thread . I make a trip to Nassau each Easter usually and we are there again for a couple of days on a cruise. We have done a number of the bond sites on our travels.

Last year we were looking for where the Connery steps are and couldn't work out where and whether it possible to see them and also the largo villa.

Does anyone know who has been recently .

Last year we did the ocean club .

Any tips for other places we can easily get to on a day trip.

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Vesper007 wrote:

This is a great thread . I make a trip to Nassau each Easter usually and we are there again for a couple of days on a cruise. We have done a number of the bond sites on our travels.

Last year we were looking for where the Connery steps are and couldn't work out where and whether it possible to see them and also the largo villa.

Does anyone know who has been recently .

Last year we did the ocean club .

Any tips for other places we can easily get to on a day trip.

I have my White Bahamas shirt from casino ready for the occasion

I have not been there recently, but Palmyra is the Largo villa and in real life it is called Rock Point.  It is located on the main drag and can be easily seen.  As for the steps and the sea wall, that is located on Paradise Island on the the Atlantis Resort grounds if it is still there.  I certainly hope it is still there, it would be ashame to destroy it.  The little bridge is long gone.

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