Daniel Craig Films

7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
There's probably another thread like this, but I didn't find it so merge it if you must. I'm guessing it belongs here in the off topic. A thread about The Craig's other movies. Discuss whatever you want. Spoilers likely to be posted, so turn back now if thats a problem.

I'll start with some random rambling thoughts:

-Recently I've been watching and rewatching his non notbond work. I didn't know much of Craig before Bond, but I recognized him from Road to Perdition. Good movie and he and his character Connor Rooney are memorable even next to all the legends and supposed stars that surround him. Shame his character disappears for most of the film before an anti climatic ending. It may be how the story was written , but I would've rather seen more screen time for him instead of Jude Law taking over the villain role so quickly.

Craig was a bastard and should've had a final showdown with Hanks. "Because it's all so f#%king hysterical" is a great line and Craig plays a good psycho. But as soon as his character is just getting built up quickly, he's torn down into a weak wormy non threat. Total letdown. Enter Jude Law and the movie never fully recovers for me.

- The Golden Compass wasnt that good and I have trouble seeing the sequel being made. Epic Beard Craig does all he can to help, but the movie falls into the category of 2nd rate fantasy film that gets lost in the genre shuffle.

- Searched and found Craig in Flashbacks of a Fool. Indy film. Weird. Not sure about Craig for this role. And hence the title the flashbacks take over and the Glam rock teen Craig of the past fills in for Charlie Sheen Craig for most of the movie. For the ladies or others too I suppose a short cameo by Newborn Craig.

I need to see Layer Cake, Cowboys Aliens, and rewatch Defiance next.
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    Layer Cake is a very good Brit-gangster film. I think it's one of Craig's better roles. Although, to be fair, I've not seen him in much either. I liked his role in Road to Perdition, but he was better in Defiance. My favorite role of his was as the South African Jew/Mossad agent in Munich.
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  • smudgedudesmudgedude Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    craig was fantastic in road to perdition. i like him in those ballsy, powerful, slightly psychotic roles.
  • 7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
    Layer Cake is a very good Brit-gangster film. I think it's one of Craig's better roles. Although, to be fair, I've not seen him in much either. I liked his role in Road to Perdition, but he was better in Defiance. My favorite role of his was as the South African Jew/Mossad agent in Munich.
    So I hear about Layer Cake. It's in my que for rental. I liked Defiance alot just haven't seen it in years. Munich too.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    My favorite role of his was as the South African Jew/Mossad agent in Munich.

    His role there was very good, but not his haircut :o
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  • 7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
    :)) Maybe im just used to his Bond crew cut, but he seems to be a person that needs to stick to the shortest hair possible. When I saw the Dream House trailer I noticed how weird it was seeing him with longer hair. Doesn't look natural at times, almost wig like. Not right.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,238MI6 Agent
    Hmm, I thought he was meant to be a weak no-mark in Road to Perdition, the archetypal loser son overlooked and scorned by his domineering dad.

    Worth checking out really, for a few weeks' viewing, is the seminal TV series Our Friends in the North from the mid 1990s which was Craig's big break. It spans three decades, from the 1960s to the 90s and also stars Christopher Ecclestone who went on to be Dr Who and Mark Strong who has been in all sorts, inc the big screen Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downey Jr.
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  • smudgedudesmudgedude Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    interesting. i'll have to check that out.
  • 7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
    Hmm, I thought he was meant to be a weak no-mark in Road to Perdition, the archetypal loser son overlooked and scorned by his domineering dad.

    Worth checking out really, for a few weeks' viewing, is the seminal TV series Our Friends in the North from the mid 1990s which was Craig's big break. It spans three decades, from the 1960s to the 90s and also stars Christopher Ecclestone who went on to be Dr Who and Mark Strong who has been in all sorts, inc the big screen Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downey Jr.
    Yeah, as it turns out he was. I just hoped for a different direction, and saw a chance for him being not quite so weak and useless as everyone thought he was.

    I'll look out for that show. Thanks.
  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,749MI6 Agent
    Layer Cake is great.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Layer Cake was indeed good and Craig was very good in it, thats hard for me to say because I detest our "modern" British gangster films because they have been done to death in this sort of style since Tarantino hit the big time in the mid 90s over the other side of the pond.

    Munich is great (need to rewatch) as is Defiance

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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Is Cowboys and Aliens worth a trip to cinema? Its only just appeared down here and on this Sunday

    No, but Craig's not the problem with that dud. See my review on page 198 of the "Last Film Seen" thread.
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    'Cowboys and Aliens' isn't the only Craig dud this year by the looks of it. 'Dream House' has bombed on its opening week. Director Jim Sheridan wanted his name removed from the project. There's a lot riding on 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' for Craig now.
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    John Drake wrote:
    'Cowboys and Aliens' isn't the only Craig dud this year by the looks of it. 'Dream House' has bombed on its opening week. Director Jim Sheridan wanted his name removed from the project.

    You can't blame him--if you got to RottenTomatoes, you'll see a good many of the awful notices (and almost all are awful) say the faults of the movie lie with Sheridan, and there are a couple saying things on the lines of, "What happened to Jim Sheridan?" Of course, Craig-haters will know where to place the blame. . .
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:

    You can't blame him--if you got to RottenTomatoes, you'll see a good many of the awful notices (and almost all are awful) say the faults of the movie lie with Sheridan, and there are a couple saying things on the lines of, "What happened to Jim Sheridan?" Of course, Craig-haters will know where to place the blame. . .

    Not blaming Craig at all Hardy. I thought he was fine in 'Cowboys & Aliens.' But I do think if he keeps ending up in films that aren't that good then his standing in Hollywood will be affected. Judging by the trailer 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' should deliver the hit he needs.
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    Sorry, John, I should have clarified--what I meant was you can't blame Jim Sheridan for wanting his name removed.
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,238MI6 Agent
    Hmm, could it be the curse of Bond? Brosnan got hooked up with stellar directors - Attenborough, McTiernan, Boorman, Streisand (ok ok) et al but none of the films quite took off though Thomas Crown did alright.

    I do say Craig should hook up with an ensemble a la Wild Geese. An army type movie, that would be good.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    from the latest Boxoffice results "Dream House" is not going to be a hit either. Also the trailer for "Girl with the Dragon Tatoo" he seem to be playing his standard, slightly sad, grumpy character, as it hasn't been a huge hit so far I can't see "Tatoo" being any different.
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Sorry, John, I should have clarified--what I meant was you can't blame Jim Sheridan for wanting his name removed.

    Sorry, I completely misread your post Hardy. ;% Thought you were throwing me in with the Craig haters there.
    I read that Sheridan is now returning to Ireland to work on smaller projects, which is probably for the best.
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,417Chief of Staff
    from the latest Boxoffice results "Dream House" is not going to be a hit either.

    No...that film has been beset by all sorts of problems...I think poor test screenings led to some re-shooting too...
    Also the trailer for "Girl with the Dragon Tatoo" he seem to be playing his standard, slightly sad, grumpy character, as it hasn't been a huge hit so far I can't see "Tatoo" being any different.

    Has the film been released anywhere yet ?
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,238MI6 Agent
    He's referring to Craig's persona not being a huge hit so far... not the film.

    The film is due to be released on parole later this year. :D
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,417Chief of Staff
    He's referring to Craig's persona not being a huge hit so far... not the film.

    The film is due to be released on parole later this year. :D

    Ah, right - D'oh ! ;%
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,292MI6 Agent
    Watched the original Girl With The Dragon Tattoo last night on rental.

    Very very good, so good in fact I'm not sure why they need remaking it however I guess a major studio needs to cash in on it.

    I think with the story line it really can't fail unless they really **** it up however I guess it comes down to Craig and whoever plays the lead girl Lisbeth. I have a lot of faith in Fincher and expect it to be even darker (I have not read the book but imagine it is way darker then the original film)

    It will be very hard to watch with a different girl cast mind, I thought the girl who played Lisbeth was perfect.

    Went and watched Cowboys and Aliens as I'm a huge Harrison Ford fan. It certainly wasn't good and certainly was not the worst I've seen, just sort of felt pointless and lifeless. Harrison was under used and Craig was excellent doing the Clint Eastwood thing but it was a bit mediocre and dull!
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  • 7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
    Well I've watched a few Craig films in the meantime.

    Layer Cake- As others said this was entertaining. Very Guy Ritchie like brit crime film, which I dig. These types of films are right in his wheelhouse.

    Munich- Pretty good film with Craig mostly stealing the show with his under used supporting character. I was left wanting to know and see more from him just like Road to Perdition.

    Even rewatched Defiance since it had been forever since my last viewing. I love WW2 stuff so it's hard not to like it. Craig does well enough in what may be his best major starring role to date.
  • LexiLexi LondonPosts: 3,000MI6 Agent
    from the latest Boxoffice results "Dream House" is not going to be a hit either. Also the trailer for "Girl with the Dragon Tatoo" he seem to be playing his standard, slightly sad, grumpy character, as it hasn't been a huge hit so far I can't see "Tatoo" being any different.

    I totally disagree with you TP - The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo will, I'm sure, be a great hit.

    The books are best sellers, with a huge fan base, and it seems that the general feedback from these fans are that the trailer looks just how it should.

    The character he is playing is a gruff journalist. He fits the character perfectly - and I really think that this will be one of his hit movies - along with Layer Cake. The trailer is the antithesis of what TGWTDT is all about - and if you haven't read the books, then sorry, but you wouldn't know what the movie should be. The one problem with the current Swedish movies is that if you haven't read the book, then you wouldn't know what was going on - and they changed the major plot ending at the end of TGWTDT - which really annoyed me. I'm hoping the this remake will stick more closely to the story - and people who haven't read the book will be able to join in.

    As for Dream house - well I didn't even know it had been released ;% It has been plagued by problems, and I'm not going to try to defend it, as a) I haven't seen it and b) the reports do suggest that it's not a keeper - which is disappointing.

    However, when I watched the so called "appalling" Invasion (the remake he was in with Nicole Kidman) I thought it wasn't as bad as everyone was making out. Maybe because the original was a cult classic, it had a lot to live up to, but sometimes I do feel like Craig's movies are much more credit worthy than the press/critics/public think.

    But then, as a fan girl I probably would..... :))
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  • ke02ewwke02eww USPosts: 2,063MI6 Agent
    Lexi wrote:
    from the latest Boxoffice results "Dream House" is not going to be a hit either. Also the trailer for "Girl with the Dragon Tatoo" he seem to be playing his standard, slightly sad, grumpy character, as it hasn't been a huge hit so far I can't see "Tatoo" being any different.

    I totally disagree with you TP - The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo will, I'm sure, be a great hit.

    The books are best sellers, with a huge fan base, and it seems that the general feedback from these fans are that the trailer looks just how it should.

    The character he is playing is a gruff journalist. He fits the character perfectly - and I really think that this will be one of his hit movies - along with Layer Cake. The trailer is the antithesis of what TGWTDT is all about - and if you haven't read the books, then sorry, but you wouldn't know what the movie should be. The one problem with the current Swedish movies is that if you haven't read the book, then you wouldn't know what was going on - and they changed the major plot ending at the end of TGWTDT - which really annoyed me. I'm hoping the this remake will stick more closely to the story - and people who haven't read the book will be able to join in.

    As for Dream house - well I didn't even know it had been released ;% It has been plagued by problems, and I'm not going to try to defend it, as a) I haven't seen it and b) the reports do suggest that it's not a keeper - which is disappointing.

    However, when I watched the so called "appalling" Invasion (the remake he was in with Nicole Kidman) I thought it wasn't as bad as everyone was making out. Maybe because the original was a cult classic, it had a lot to live up to, but sometimes I do feel like Craig's movies are much more credit worthy than the press/critics/public think.

    But then, as a fan girl I probably would..... :))

    Couple of observations...

    1) it always pays to read the book before criticizing a film - leaves you wide open to the "if you havn't read the book " riposte
    2) we call them "groupies" on here lex... 8-)
  • ClassicRoyaleClassicRoyale Posts: 18MI6 Agent
    I just watched Lady lara Croft in Tomb Raider, Giving Her so called old flame Alex West, ("Danial Craig") a rather naughty feel in his Hotel room :D

    Craig was certainly an action man in this, and it gives a certain nod, that the casters for "Casino Royale" 2006 made the right choice!

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    no match for Mila! Shes such a Hottie ;%
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  • Barry NelsonBarry Nelson ChicagoPosts: 1,508MI6 Agent
    Just for the record, Layer Cake was not a hit, it did not make back what it cost to make.

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Sadly Lexi will Always find fault with any of my arguments over Craig. That's why I stopped posting anything about him. I was merely making the Point He is Playing the same character that He's Played in all his vaslty sucessful movies so I expect this one to be as Big a Success as all his others.
    Invasion has one of the least suspenceful endings ever in a Movie ( Just my opinion ) and Craig looks More German with the longer Hair.
    Still his fans Love him, and I won't be posting anything about him again as I'm done with it, as a High school teen would say. :))
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  • 7700777007 Posts: 502MI6 Agent
    I'll update the Craig films I've watched over the last few months.

    - Cowboys And Aliens.
    The idea of the film and film itself aren't that great, but just ok. Rodeo Craig does his best I suppose. I wonder why he was cast in this film to begin with? Maybe it was an attempt by him to stretch out some by playing a cowboy, but I'm surprised the filmmakers went with him for this.

    -Dream House
    Such a shame this film had potential, then veered off the road and slammed into a ditch. From Daddy Craig to Looney Craig and back again. But as he says at least he met his wife while making this movie, so I guess that makes up for everything else.

    -The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
    Perhaps another diamond in the rough Craigisphere. Good film overall, and Geraldo Craig adds to it. I heard it mentioned that Craig seemed to playing the same character again. He wouldn't be the first actor to receive that criticism. A closer look at the film reveals a reason for him seeming that way at times. But there are also elements of vulnerability , and dare i say comedy, added as the story progresses that give his character more depth.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,238MI6 Agent
    I got a bit of Craig in The Golden Compass, he had his beard and cut a commanding prescense, (sp) and not like his Bond persona, maybe he'll be more like that in Skyfall now his character has come of age. Rubbish CGI polar bear put me off the film, like Lady Rose I despise CGI animals, in fact the only thing CGI is good for is for porn movies, and even then only on humanitarian grounds (tbf, not sure of Lady Rose's views on CGI porn...)
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