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Oh, I know we all have our opinions, but wait till the last couple of Benson novels.  ajb007/crap
Gardner suddenly doesn't look so bad.  ajb007/lol   ( just my opinion )

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Been re-reading through the Flemming Novels again. They always will be unbeatable  ajb007/smile

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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Fleming had a skill of building up an atmosphere, that draws you in
so that you believe in the entire story, even the more fanciful parts.  ajb007/martini
Which so far no other writer has managed.  ajb007/smile  ajb007/smile

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Yes old Chap  ajb007/bond

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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I'm re-reading Thunderball at the moment, and I'd forgotten just
How good it is.   ajb007/bond

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Not to hijack the thread but after watching some of the extras on the bluray. I was
wondering why they did the tube  crash " for real "  and not use models, as for most
casual viewers I'd asume they would think this scene was a model or cgi.

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In my Opinion, any CGI in a Bond Film is an Insult to the entire Franchises History of using real Stuntmen doing real, amazing Stunts. CGI will always ruin it though (Yes, I'm looking at you Windsurfing Scene in DAD)  ajb007/mad

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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Agreed bad cgi is the worst, but the model work on the Bonds has always been good.  ajb007/martini

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I prefer real stunt work to CGI on the whole but...

The Casino Royale car flip always looks what it was; completely fake. You can't flip a car like that so easily, as they found out.

I'm not saying CGI would have solved this problem but stunt work can look equally fake too in the right (wrong) circumstance.

'Yes, dammit, I said "was". The bitch is dead now.'
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Coming back to the money situation. Maybe Bond sold that Aston Martin he won in CR on Autotrader  ajb007/lol

Smiert Spionam

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This is another Skyfall question.

After the underwater fight in the loch, Bond fires a flare. Now my question is ....
Did Bond fire this to find the original hole he and the villain fell through.  Or
Would the flare generate enough heat to " burn" a new exit for him ?  ajb007/biggrin

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I thought it was to find the hole they made when he shot through the ice.

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Sometimes no news is just bad news taking it's fvcking time

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From re-watching the scene, this is apparently the purpose for the flare as they had sank fairly deep during the struggle.  My only quibble with this whole piece is the depth they sank.  Had I put the scene together, I would have had them only sink eight or ten feet.  Having to hold one's breath that long that deep - in a frozen over pond no less, while fighting for one's life, would have been an olympian feat.  Even many SEALS, when taken to Alaska to stand up to their necks in freezing water as an endurance test, fail it.  I knew a SEAL and he said it was one of the worst things he ever endured. In combat they wear dry suits to prevent hypothermia.  In reality, when Bond and the goon fell beneath the pond, they would have both suffered instant cold shock.  They would have immediately begun to hyperventilate and since they would have drawn in water instead of air they would have drown.  Trying to off each other would have been the furthest thing from their mind.

To make matters worse, the writers have Bond swim back down to the ever sinking dead goon to retrieve his flare!  Immersion in freezing water can quickly numb the extremities to the point of uselessness.  Cold hands cannot fasten the straps of a lifejacket, grasp a thrown rescue line, or hold onto an over-turned boat.

This scene would have been find if they fell off the boat in the tropics, but on a freezing Scottish moor at night..not so much.   To make it even more unbelievable, Bond shows up to kill Silva and shows no sign of what he had just escaped from, outside of being wet.  I understand the desire of the filmmakers to make Bond appear invincible to a degree, but for me this was as bad as surviving a gunshot and a fall of hundreds of feet to a raging river and waterfall.

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ajb007/martini  Very Interesting, as always it's amazing the facts you pick up
on AJB.   ajb007/cheers  I'm reading a book at the moment all about an ex-navy
Seal (  lent to me by Barbel  ajb007/martini  )  and some of the stuff about their
Training is astounding.

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The depth they sank also made me wonder... Are Lochs really that deep?

"How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."

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Loch Morar, is 310 metres deep, so I guess a few are that deep.

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Has anyone noticed that in one scene Kincade is seen standing with 2 black dogs, then the dogs are never seen again.

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What do you think they had for dinner ?  ajb007/lol

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I just noticed that Bond is not wearing a watch in the bar scene after the pre title sequence. I always wondered how he payed for his stay there (and all the booze). Considering the times Bond kept his watch on during times it would usually be next to the bed I think this was a deliberate decision by the filmmakers.

1. OHMSS   2. FRWL   3. OP   4. YOLT   5. TSWLM   6. TLD   7. GE   8. LALD   9. CR   10. LTK   11. DN   12. GF   13. SF   14. FYEO   15. TMWTGG   16. MR   17. TWINE   18. TB   19. AVTAK   20 TND   21. QoS   22 DAF   23. DAD

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It may have been to show that as Bond had left the service, and
was slumming it, time no longer had a meaning for him ? Or
Some such visual metaphor.  ajb007/lol

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Either way, it must have been deliberate. Otherwise Bond would have been holding the drink with his left hand and we would have had a 2 minute insert shot of the scorpion close up.

1. OHMSS   2. FRWL   3. OP   4. YOLT   5. TSWLM   6. TLD   7. GE   8. LALD   9. CR   10. LTK   11. DN   12. GF   13. SF   14. FYEO   15. TMWTGG   16. MR   17. TWINE   18. TB   19. AVTAK   20 TND   21. QoS   22 DAF   23. DAD

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Omega, missed a trick there !  ajb007/lol

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They could have gone the Casino Royale route....

Bond: I'd like to rent that cabin on the beach.
Guy: That's 60 Turkish Lira a night.
Bond: Well I don't have any cash on my right now, but I do have this watch I can give you.
Guy: O that is very nice, Rolex?
Bond: No, it is an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 232.30.42.21.01.001 on sale at your local jewelry store for 11670 Lira.

1. OHMSS   2. FRWL   3. OP   4. YOLT   5. TSWLM   6. TLD   7. GE   8. LALD   9. CR   10. LTK   11. DN   12. GF   13. SF   14. FYEO   15. TMWTGG   16. MR   17. TWINE   18. TB   19. AVTAK   20 TND   21. QoS   22 DAF   23. DAD

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ajb007/lol   ajb007/lol

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Hey, it's better done in Bond then the episodic interruptions in some shows like Bones.  Though I could lose the beer... Seagrams or Skul or someone with good vodka... get on the ball!

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