What is the correct Walther PPK??
Gebruder Gumbold
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What is the correct Walther PPK as used in OHMSS?
I see a few variants in some arms dealers, and I want to purchase the absolutley correct one.
Thank you!
Tom
GG
I see a few variants in some arms dealers, and I want to purchase the absolutley correct one.
Thank you!
Tom
GG
Comments
1961 9mm Kurz (9mm short)/.380 ACP. A 7.65mm pistol was never utilised by Bond in the early days
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
What colour are the grips? Cant tell from the photo. I have hears both brown and black.
Not a gun guy per se, but is there a difference between a .380 and 7.65?
If I ask a gun dealer for a 7.65, they sometimes offer a .38, saying, it is the same.
Is it??
The grip was brown...
ASP9MM, always liked that "shot" old George wasn't going to get any advantage on Telly with an empty "on safe" pistol!
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
Classic movie nonsense. No round in chamber and safety on 8-) Nearly as bad as the dreadful way Brozza held his P99
Confused!
So, If I ask for a PPK 7.65 w brown grips, would I be correct in having a "James Bond" gun?
As a huge 007 fan just like the rest of us on here, I have loads of memorabilia, the phones, watch, other gadgets and clothes, all of which serve a purpose and are great to have. However, a pistol...a real pistol only exists to cause injury or harm to another human being and I cannot imagine why I would ever want to add one to my collection.
Perhaps I suffer from an "inferiority complex...."
I would like to own the gun purely as a collectible heirloom, and fire it at a range once or twice a year.
I already have self defense firearms, which I have never, and hope to never ever have to use!
Interesting note: our California laws now make it actually easier to carry a concealed weapon.
Not sure if it is a good idea...however,...IF I ever get invited to fancy dress, it would be nice not to get arrested if I wore my prop (non firing) PPK with a shoulder holster and Trilby hat.
I can attest to the "why on earth would anyone want to own one of these" applied to the Aston Martin.
Since owning the 1969 DBS, and driving several DB5s, I can safely say that most people romanticize owning something, and when they actually buy one, or see and experience the real thing, they are disappointed. So much so, that even "M" in Skyfall points out that the ride in a DB5 is terrible.
The DBS was much more comfy, btw...
Still leaks oil, still smells of petrol, still is noisy, gearbox is heavy....and I wouldn't have it any other way!
I have pm'd you on this. George did not use a 7.65mm but it did have brown grips.
They used a 7.65mm too in the early films, but the .380 hero gun was used quite a bit from OHMSS to TMWTGG (you'll have to ask Donk for specifics). Remember in Dr No he never had a PPK, but a PP.
If you want a generic 60's Bond PPK, then buy a 7.65mm with brown grips. There are a few differences in the PPK made over the years like slide stamps, sights and ridge profile on the slide and trigger too. But outside of Donk and myself, I doubt anyone would care about those differences.
Strangeways, there are many reasons why some of us like to own PPK's. None of them have anything to do with killing other people. Like cars, samurai swords and fighter jets, we can appreciate the history, engineering and craftsmanship that has gone into making them over the years. Target sports and competition are great fun too and the PPK is one of those pistols that are a pleasure to shoot. And then you have the enormous Bond connection. Bond and the PPK are connected in a way that not even the DB5 can eclipse.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
Mission:Impossible I'd say
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Into my part of the UK.
Not much.
The anti terrorism squad might want a little chat however.
Vive le droit à la libre expression! Je suis Charlie!
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For target shooting, a legitimate and very enjoyable sport sadly virtually impossible for those on mainland UK. I prefer classic (PPK, 1911) to modern (Tupperware, sorry Glock
Plenty available in the UK ,live and vandalised if you have the correct reasons.
http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Other-Military-Guns-for-sale?sstr=walther%20PPK
And this is why I don't post comments in regard to firearms on this Board. Depresses me.
You just did.
And for goodnessakes don't watch a Bond film. He uses one and kills lot's of folks. It's not good
It's best to ignore such comments and move on.
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
Most of us know each other by now, and those whom I have met in the Bond Collecting world simply appreciate the time, engineering, and overall coolness of the items. A pal of mine has a FRWL Grant watch, but would never use it to strangle anyone...except perhaps me!
Those of you who know me personally would then testify to a "justifiable homicide..."
(JUST KIDDING)
Lucky to live in the US...for now...want to hurry and buy any firearms while I still can.
2nd Amendment is under attack at every angle.
Cheers, Tom
Looks good to me...what say my bretheren?
(And he needs to release the trigger pressure as well, safety off,safety on)
Okay, here goes:
Wrong slide engravings
Wrong sized safety catch
Wrong shaped rear sight
Wrong grips (should be brown bakelite, not wood)
Wrong calibre
Wrong tone of blued finish
Can't quite tell from the photo but the trigger looks incorrect too!
Your original post did state that you wanted the "absolutley correct one"
Any PPK marked Walther made from about 1962 to 1968 should work for what you want. Of course most of them in the USA will be import marked by Interarms. This mark is on the right side of the slide, which should otherwise be blank or depending on when it was made, it may have the serial number stamped below the ejection port.
It will be a long search, to find an "non import" PPK. I would forget all the nonsense about getting a .380, because that's what EON has in it's vault. The correct caliber used by Bond is the .32 or 7.65 mm, I would not buy a .380 just because a prop man grabbed the "wrong" caliber out of a pile of pistols. After all to filmmakers guns are just props and seldom shown in enough detail for it to matter if the pistol is real or resin. All you have to do is look at the picture ASP9MM posted to see that Lazenby is trying to kill Blofeld with an unloaded PPK with the safety on!
So if a "Bond" Walther is what you want, and you can't afford to get the one actually used on the OHMSS set. Then any pistol made to the spec listed above will be as good as it gets. FWIW here's mine ....
Bond’s Beretta
The Handguns of Ian Fleming's James Bond
I'm going to consult him now for the correct PPK, based on all of your helpful info.
Thank you!!