Bond's battle with the snake (Moonraker)?

Andy007Andy007 Posts: 100MI6 Agent
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This always struck me as a terrifying scene as a kid. It's almost everyone's worst nightmare really..does anyone know how they pulled this off (effects wise)?. you can see Roger's stuntman grappling with a snake underwater. For any bits and I'm assuming much of it isn't a real snake, how did they get the python so realistic? It's a truly nail-biting scene. One of Bond's worst encounters for sure. How do people rate this scene? As I say any info behind scenes on this appreciated?

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,485MI6 Agent
    Its a rubber Reticulated python. You see the real one briefly.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I think the problem with the real one was, when put in the water. All it wanted
    to do was swim back to shore :))
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    I always thought it was a mix of real and a stand in one, I've said it before with bond films, they were way ahead of their time in lots of effects and filming techniques, I've mentioned the sharks in tb before and how much better they were filmed than in jaws. Mr's python was far better than the one in anaconda despite being filmed years before.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I've mentioned the sharks in tb before and how much better they were filmed than in jaws.
    Considering how many sharks were killed after "Jaws", the least they could've done was film the damned things correctly.

    In terms of filming techniques, I couldn't agree more.
    If you haven't already, you should listen to the and the commentary for OP and YOLT.
    The directors and respective crews go in depth on the various techniques they used, it's truly astonishing.
    Although many people of the public don't regard the older Bonds as being that great, they should re-watch them. It's amazing how well they hold up. Even on the subject of MR. Just from the first 5 minutes in the PTS with the free fall, it's breathtaking.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Dirty Punker wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I've mentioned the sharks in tb before and how much better they were filmed than in jaws.
    Considering how many sharks were killed after "Jaws", the least they could've done was film the damned things correctly.

    In terms of filming techniques, I couldn't agree more.
    If you haven't already, you should listen to the and the commentary for OP and YOLT.
    The directors and respective crews go in depth on the various techniques they used, it's truly astonishing.
    Although many people of the public don't regard the older Bonds as being that great, they should re-watch them. It's amazing how well they hold up. Even on the subject of MR. Just from the first 5 minutes in the PTS with the free fall, it's breathtaking.

    I've listened to the commentaries, for someone of my age who first saw bond on TV, then on TV and recorded it on video, then got the official videos, then dvd's with the extras and so on, any further extras were most welcome... In fact I was really disappointed when they stopped the extras from the sf dvd onwards.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    ...... The we found Barbel to answer any question ! -{ :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Dirty Punker wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I've mentioned the sharks in tb before and how much better they were filmed than in jaws.
    Considering how many sharks were killed after "Jaws", the least they could've done was film the damned things correctly.

    In terms of filming techniques, I couldn't agree more.
    If you haven't already, you should listen to the and the commentary for OP and YOLT.
    The directors and respective crews go in depth on the various techniques they used, it's truly astonishing.
    Although many people of the public don't regard the older Bonds as being that great, they should re-watch them. It's amazing how well they hold up. Even on the subject of MR. Just from the first 5 minutes in the PTS with the free fall, it's breathtaking.

    I've listened to the commentaries, for someone of my age who first saw bond on TV, then on TV and recorded it on video, then got the official videos, then dvd's with the extras and so on, any further extras were most welcome... In fact I was really disappointed when they stopped the extras from the sf dvd onwards.
    That part was directed at the thread's creator.
    I should've made my message clear-er to let myself not be misunderstood, my bad!
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Dirty Punker wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Dirty Punker wrote:
    Considering how many sharks were killed after "Jaws", the least they could've done was film the damned things correctly.

    In terms of filming techniques, I couldn't agree more.
    If you haven't already, you should listen to the and the commentary for OP and YOLT.
    The directors and respective crews go in depth on the various techniques they used, it's truly astonishing.
    Although many people of the public don't regard the older Bonds as being that great, they should re-watch them. It's amazing how well they hold up. Even on the subject of MR. Just from the first 5 minutes in the PTS with the free fall, it's breathtaking.

    I've listened to the commentaries, for someone of my age who first saw bond on TV, then on TV and recorded it on video, then got the official videos, then dvd's with the extras and so on, any further extras were most welcome... In fact I was really disappointed when they stopped the extras from the sf dvd onwards.
    That part was directed at the thread's creator.
    I should've made my message clear-er to let myself not be misunderstood, my bad!

    Oh not bad at all dear chap, I think we'd be amazed how many long standing bond fans havnt listened to any commentaries.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Sadly I'm reaching that age that as well as a flu jab ! :p I get mixed up in facts from all the
    Commentaries and reference books, I've listened/ read over the years. I guess I won't start
    Making sense until the Alzheimer's kicks in ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Well take heart Tp Barbel is at least twice as old as you and he's as sharp as a well honed claymore. I think you've become delirious with man flu!
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) I have told my daughter's that if I ever do get that disease. If they put on a Bond. I'll be coherent
    For two hours, ............. But only on Bond facts ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Maybe you'll end up on a "Cannonball Run" and think you're Roger Moore or whoever.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    :)) I have told my daughter's that if I ever do get that disease. If they put on a Bond. I'll be coherent
    For two hours, ............. But only on Bond facts ;)
    Christ, that's most of us here most the time!
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))
    It's great when they bring a friend home or have a new boyfriend. As I have a new audience for my
    Bond trivia ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Thunderpussy wrote:
    :)) :)) :))
    It's great when they bring a friend home or have a new boyfriend. As I have a new audience for my
    Bond trivia ;)
    I don't have an audience at home, in fact when I told Mrs coop it was bond day yesterday she just rolled her eyes 8-) and said "I suppose there will be another one on TV tonight! Bond is on more than bloody football! " as it happens last night was bloody football and no bond!!!
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes, I guess we have all experienced the rolling eyes. I was asked once how I kept finding them on the television.
    Even when on the laptop to AJB, I know secretly, she'd rather I was looking at porn :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    :)) My wife rolls her eyes so much one day they'll fall out of her head and roll accross the floor.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) You mentioned earlier about first taping the films off the TV etc. -{ I too did that, even recording them
    On audio tapes before video. Next came buying them in various formats and collections etc. Which lead to
    My good lady wife asking " Why do you keep buying the same films ? How many copies do you need ?" :D
    I mentioned about aspect ratio the difference between video, DVD and Blu-ray ......... ROLLING EYES!!! :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    :)) sounds familiar, and now sp on Netflix, and Dc's on Sony entertainment network, and on Google I have Bond everywhere and in glorious technicolor, HD, surround sound...
    I love technology.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    As an Android user. I have them all from Google movies
    In wonderful HD. -{ ( which my wife doesn't know about ) ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,449MI6 Agent
    Yes I'm an android user too, and I have Sony phone and smart TV, with that I get Sony entertainment network, which has all of Dc's Bond films ( I've downloaded them on the TV) and I can watch them on my phone also. The main benefit is that as Sony was the distribution company I got the downloads a whole day before :D ( which is important when new bonds only arrive every few years)
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    One of the few occasions when being premature is a good thing. :D
    I have a bit of softwear that allowed me to copy the films and keep
    them on my phones memory card.
    Which I found useful a couple of years ago, when called for Jury
    Duty. Spending three days in a room waiting to be picked.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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