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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

caractacus potts wrote:
Gala Brand wrote:

Make Bond 25 in 120 minutes, use fewer locations, make almost all the locations in Europe, have fewer and/or shorter action set pieces and you could complete production in five months.

please don't ask them to do less location work! less bloated action setpieces and more plot and dialog I would very much like (and most of Boyle's films I've seen have that going for them). but action setpieces that actually show off real locations would make me happy too.
just saw Hitman's Bodyguard, a mostly mediocre oddball buddy pic, but damn did they ever work those Amsterdam locations in the third quarter.
Bond is meant to be a world-traveler, so yes please, action or talk, give us lots of juicy locations to look at.

Connery never left the UK during the shooting of GF except for 1-2 weeks in Switzerland, yet 60% of the movie appears to occur in the US. Craig never went to China or Macau in Skyfall.

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

Gala Brand wrote:

George Lucas (one of the producers) oversaw post-production for Jurassic Park. I dunno, maybe George would be available to do post-production on Boyle's Beatles movie.

Boyle is making it with director Richard Curtis, so I’m sure he’ll help in the same way...

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

Why are people even questioning this? Are we thinking that Boyle hasn't realised he's working on two films and is going to forget that he committed to Bond 25 and not show up to work? Is Boyle going to have an "oh sh!t" moment and discover that he has too much on his plate and cancel Bond 25? There's too much money already involved for that to happen. Everyone has been freaking out about this film for a long time now, and for no good reason. Now that we finally got the news we've waiting to hear for 2 years (at the usual time we would get this news), people are still making up problems. So far, everything has been going just fine. Most of the rumours that has been published over the past few years have been confirmed to not be true.

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I'm  looking forward to Bond 25. I just think people need to get used to the fact that it may be different than what they're used to. Which could be a good thing.

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they can't keep making the films longer yet cramming less into them. Quantum had way more plot and action than Spectre. Spectre had 5 acts and a subplot that wasted time trying to give M something to do. Madeleine White goes from hate to love in 20 minutes. they could've saved much character development by having Bond kill Mr. White in the prologue, have him attend the funeral where he meets a mourning Madeleine. Delete Austria all together. Mr. Hinx was the best part of the movie, but they didn't have time to give him anything to do. the whole movie is a chase between Hinx and Bond, when Hinx just wanted to bring Bond [i asume alive on Blofeld's orders] directly to where Bond inevitably is trying to get to in the first place. In comparison Jaws kills a lot of innocents and not-so-innocents along the way,  but Spectre didn't have time for that. The thumb tacks are introduced as a neat little quirk to rival Jaws' teeth, but they are never used again. They breezed through a great evil lair where they could've had a 20+ minute warzone finale. Instead of Bond being caught in the middle between the orange coats and the black coats and give him something to do like save the girl and deactivate the nuclear missile, he is an immortal terminator that guns down every spectre agent in less than 20 seconds. All this to get to that awful 2nd 3rd act. [hint, it was the plot to TSWLM, only slower]

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

Gala Brand wrote:

TWINE was 20 minutes shorter than, for example Spectre. That saves at least a month in shooting time right there, not to mention a couple of weeks of post-production. Make Bond 25 in 120 minutes, use fewer locations, make almost all the locations in Europe, have fewer and/or shorter action set pieces and you could complete production in five months (actually closer to four months because there's never any shooting between about December 15 and January 10).

If the writing is sharp and the acting and directing is first-rate I might really enjoy that movie, but I'm not sure about the general public which is used to 21/2 hour bloated action films stuffed with car chases and gun fights.

The point is, there isn't going to be a seven-month shoot.

How much footage is shot isn't always reflective of the final running time. Some directors work more efficiently and require less takes to get a scene to their liking. Clint Eastwood is an example of a director who works very efficiently and doesn't need multiple takes. I don't know about Danny Boyle. Having a complete, well written script also doesn't hurt either. Goldfinger, considered the first "epic" Bond film packed a lot into its 110 minutes. We just keep going from one set of "fears" to creating a new set when the old fears are put to rest. Things are falling into place as opposed to the sky is falling. Remember the Skyfall fretting:"Bond has a beard and looks terrible" and "they're using fake locations, it's going to look crappy" how did that turn out?

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

HowardB wrote:

Remember the Skyfall fretting:"Bond has a beard and looks terrible" and "they're using fake locations, it's going to look crappy" how did that turn out?

Are you saying that we should be more worried?  ajb007/crap

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

caractacus potts wrote:
Thunderpussy wrote:

I hope you get a good position, in the movie.

zaphod99 wrote:

I'll probably try and hide as much as a 6ft4 person can ajb007/wink

Are you going to get a cameo?
Ask if you can be the guy who doublechecks his bottle after the zany chase scene rolls by, we haven't seen that character in while.

Mrs Zaphod still chides me about declining to be in Adam and The Ants videos ( Ant Music and Prince charming ) as she would have loved to meet Diana Dors. Same thing happened with a Madness video (can't remember which one)  so I doubt very much if I will be visible. Too arrogant back in the day, and too shy now. If Boyle is looking for a superannuated Heavy for 25 that might be a different story. ajb007/cool

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

Matt S wrote:
HowardB wrote:

Remember the Skyfall fretting:"Bond has a beard and looks terrible" and "they're using fake locations, it's going to look crappy" how did that turn out?

Are you saying that we should be more worried?  ajb007/crap

I guess you're not a Skyfall fan? ajb007/lol

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

HowardB wrote:
Matt S wrote:
HowardB wrote:

Remember the Skyfall fretting:"Bond has a beard and looks terrible" and "they're using fake locations, it's going to look crappy" how did that turn out?

Are you saying that we should be more worried?  ajb007/crap

I guess you're not a Skyfall fan? ajb007/lol

I'd say that Craig's looks in Skyfall are amongst the worse looks for Bond along with DAF (older and more out-of-shape than he should look), AVTAK (too old), LTK (they could have done something with his hair) and DAD (too heavy in parts). As for locations, it's too obvious that Craig never visited Shanghai and the fight scene set didn't cut it, but the Macau casino is spectacular.

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

Matt S wrote:
HowardB wrote:
Matt S wrote:

Are you saying that we should be more worried?  ajb007/crap

I guess you're not a Skyfall fan? ajb007/lol

I'd say that Craig's looks in Skyfall are amongst the worse looks for Bond along with DAF (older and more out-of-shape than he should look), AVTAK (too old), LTK (they could have done something with his hair) and DAD (too heavy in parts). As for locations, it's too obvious that Craig never visited Shanghai and the fight scene set didn't cut it, but the Macau casino is spectacular.

Point taken regarding his look in Skyfall (at least before he was shot and "dead") however I think the haggard look was appropriate for his "resurrection". As far as the faked locations, they looked fine to me....but that's me. Connery looked like he could have been Craig's father in DAF (I just watched YOLT again last week and he was looking pretty soft even in '67). It's also beyond me that the professional hair and make-up artists these films employ couldn't have done something better with Dalton's hair in LTK. I do think we can both agree that they do not need to do anything severe with Craig's hair in 25. The QOS or SPECTRE cut would be just right.

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

HowardB wrote:
Matt S wrote:
HowardB wrote:

I guess you're not a Skyfall fan? ajb007/lol

I'd say that Craig's looks in Skyfall are amongst the worse looks for Bond along with DAF (older and more out-of-shape than he should look), AVTAK (too old), LTK (they could have done something with his hair) and DAD (too heavy in parts). As for locations, it's too obvious that Craig never visited Shanghai and the fight scene set didn't cut it, but the Macau casino is spectacular.

Point taken regarding his look in Skyfall (at least before he was shot and "dead") however I think the haggard look was appropriate for his "resurrection". As far as the faked locations, they looked fine to me....but that's me. Connery looked like he could have been Craig's father in DAF (I just watched YOLT again last week and he was looking pretty soft even in '67). It's also beyond me that the professional hair and make-up artists these films employ couldn't have done something better with Dalton's hair in LTK. I do think we can both agree that they do not need to do anything severe with Craig's hair in 25. The QOS or SPECTRE cut would be just right.

For some reason I just don't think he would look good with the QOS hair anymore. I guess because that was a decade ago now and I cant recall him having a style similar to it since then for reference. That said I've been very vocal about my love of the SF haircut and wouldn't mind if that made a comeback as long he had it side parted throughout the film.

@deanwdunlevy

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

walther p99 wrote:
HowardB wrote:
Matt S wrote:

I'd say that Craig's looks in Skyfall are amongst the worse looks for Bond along with DAF (older and more out-of-shape than he should look), AVTAK (too old), LTK (they could have done something with his hair) and DAD (too heavy in parts). As for locations, it's too obvious that Craig never visited Shanghai and the fight scene set didn't cut it, but the Macau casino is spectacular.

Point taken regarding his look in Skyfall (at least before he was shot and "dead") however I think the haggard look was appropriate for his "resurrection". As far as the faked locations, they looked fine to me....but that's me. Connery looked like he could have been Craig's father in DAF (I just watched YOLT again last week and he was looking pretty soft even in '67). It's also beyond me that the professional hair and make-up artists these films employ couldn't have done something better with Dalton's hair in LTK. I do think we can both agree that they do not need to do anything severe with Craig's hair in 25. The QOS or SPECTRE cut would be just right.

For some reason I just don't think he would look good with the QOS hair anymore. I guess because that was a decade ago now and I cant recall him having a style similar to it since then for reference. That said I've been very vocal about my love of the SF haircut and wouldn't mind if that made a comeback as long he had it side parted throughout the film.

Though I think he looked 60 years old in Skyfall with a large part of it due to his haircut, it's better than the Nazi haircut he's been getting recently. I find that haircut offensive.

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Re: Short shooting schedule Bond 25

HowardB wrote:
Matt S wrote:
HowardB wrote:

I guess you're not a Skyfall fan? ajb007/lol

I'd say that Craig's looks in Skyfall are amongst the worse looks for Bond along with DAF (older and more out-of-shape than he should look), AVTAK (too old), LTK (they could have done something with his hair) and DAD (too heavy in parts). As for locations, it's too obvious that Craig never visited Shanghai and the fight scene set didn't cut it, but the Macau casino is spectacular.

Point taken regarding his look in Skyfall (at least before he was shot and "dead") however I think the haggard look was appropriate for his "resurrection". As far as the faked locations, they looked fine to me....but that's me. Connery looked like he could have been Craig's father in DAF (I just watched YOLT again last week and he was looking pretty soft even in '67). It's also beyond me that the professional hair and make-up artists these films employ couldn't have done something better with Dalton's hair in LTK. I do think we can both agree that they do not need to do anything severe with Craig's hair in 25. The QOS or SPECTRE cut would be just right.

The Skyfall look was a disaster. Would have been OK if he had time to get back to snuff for the resurrection but the narrative required that his bluffed medical meant he was still way below par while engaged.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.