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Mr Martini wrote:
Someone wrote:

Fukunaga said at the Live Reveal they would be filming in London and I wonder if that will be my Blofeld jailbreak theory, and Lynch-007 is killed in the jailbreak finale, while maybe Blofeld has an ambiguous escape a la Diamonds are Forever; but right at the end of the movie, Bond returns to MI6 and is reinstated as 007.

How about this, instead of Lynch-007 killed in the finale, Craig-Bond is killed in the finale. When Bond 26 comes out Lynch will continue in the role of 007. Has her name in Bond 25 been revealed yet?

Nomi
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Good research. it's a dirty job, but Someone had to do it.
I have couple of questions for you (both in the singular and plural meaning of you):
I knew Malek's stuntman was spotted on location in Norway, but was Malek himself seen?

Do you agree the female 007 (if that's true) has to die or at least retire before the credits roll?

What kind of technology do you think the midding scientist is working on?

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Number24 wrote:

Good research. it's a dirty job, but Someone had to do it.
I have couple of questions for you (both in the singular and plural meaning of you):
I knew Malek's stuntman was spotted on location in Norway, but was Malek himself seen?

Do you agree the female 007 (if that's true) has to die or at least retire before the credits roll?

What kind of technology do you think the midding scientist is working on?

I heard Fukunaga say during the Live Reveal that Malek has filmed Norway scenes. - edit - sorry this is wrong.

This is where I saw the reference to Malek having filmed Norway scenes. Lizo is a BBC journalist. 
https://twitter.com/lizo_mzimba/status/ … 8127636480

Lynch-007 could die, or be injured badly enough she can't carry on. Then again, as another poster has said, maybe Bond will die.

I have no idea what the dangerous tech is. Someone on abj007 suggested eco-terrorism. It needs to be something actually dangerous and not Nine Eyes.

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Thanks. "Done some Norway stuff" doesn't have to mean he has been filmed in Norway. His stuntman was seen on to insert him into the scene on the lake? Anyway, it interesting to know he's part of the winter scene.

I think letting Bond die and having the female 007 survive would be a disaster. People would write "feminism gone mad!" with Caps Lock on and too many exclamation points,  and I would agree. She has to die or retire, anything else will make people belive the 007 in the post-Craig movies will be a woman.

Eco-terrorism isn't form of technology, is it? I would prefer some type of weapon of mass destruction. Other poibilties are a very profitable and game-changeing technolgy (perhaps within energy) or perhaps some high-tech assassination method. I don't want a third Bond film in a row about hacking and surveilance.

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Number24 wrote:

Thanks. "Done some Norway stuff" doesn't have to mean he has been filmed in Norway. His stuntman was seen on to insert him into the scene on the lake? Anyway, it interesting to know he's part of the winter scene.

I think letting Bond die and having the female 007 survive would be a disaster. People would write "feminism gone mad!" with Caps Lock on and too many exclamation points,  and I would agree. She has to die or retire, anything else will make people belive the 007 in the post-Craig movies will be a woman.

Eco-terrorism isn't form of technology, is it? I would prefer some type of weapon of mass destruction. Other poibilties are a very profitable and game-changeing technolgy (perhaps within energy) or perhaps some high-tech assassination method. I don't want a third Bond film in a row about hacking and surveilance.

Well maybe this rumored female MI6 agent will simply not have the 007 number......could be 0010, 0011 or whatever. Maybe not even a "00". Maybe an agent with only one kill......and she gets a boatload of knowledge and experience from Bond and ironically earns her "00" killing someone to save Bond. Remember, from what we know it appears that Felix asks Bond to help him...so it might not really be an MI6 mission. M may (possibly against his own better judgement) lend Felix and Bond the young agent to help.

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That would be a good solution.
I don't wan ta woman to hold the 007 designation when the credits roll, but I don't want people to get the idea that women can't be 00- agents either.

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Number24 wrote:

That would be a good solution.
I don't wan ta woman to hold the 007 designation when the credits roll, but I don't want people to get the idea that women can't be00- agents either.

Yes, I have no problem with a good portrayal of a strong young female MI6 agent who can kick butt...just don't want any mixed messages about who James Bond is and that code name crap rearing its ugly head.

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HowardB wrote:
Number24 wrote:

That would be a good solution.
I don't wan ta woman to hold the 007 designation when the credits roll, but I don't want people to get the idea that women can't be00- agents either.

Yes, I have no problem with a good portrayal of a strong young female MI6 agent who can kick butt...just don't want any mixed messages about who James Bond is and that code name crap rearing its ugly head.

The code name thing is about ‘James Bond’; ‘007’ is his job title essentially- it always seemed likely someone else could get the number. I don’t see the issue. We’ve never had anyone else be 007 so it’d be a new thing- new things are good.
Will it happen? I’ve no idea, but it would kind of make sense to see that in this film where Bond has left his job.

Mind you, someone upthread said it might be nice if Bond was actually on deep cover and I rather like that- it’s be fun if we the audience don’t know what he’s up to for once and we get the rug pulled from under us in the second act. Kind of like an extended You Only Live Twice opening I guess, butbitd be good if wevthought this new woman was 007, only it turns out he’s been 007 all along and was playing at being a sleeping lion to lure in the baddie.

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I can live with another agent having the 007 designation for parts of the film. I'd prefer it if his replacement had another number, since I doubt all nine numbers are taken all the time. But it's James Bond's job title.like you say. To me it makes no difference if it's a man or a woman, what matters is that James Bond is 007 when the credits roll. If someone else is 007 at the end people will asume that person will be the lead of future Movies in the franchise and that can't be good.

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Number24 wrote:

I can live with another agent having the 007 designation for parts of the film. I'd prefer it if his replacement had another number, since I doubt all nine numbers are taken all the time. But it's James Bond's job title.like you say. To me it makes no difference if it's a man or a woman, what matters is that James Bond is 007 when the credits roll. If someone else is 007 at the end people will asume that person will be the lead of future Movies in the franchise and that can't be good.

Yeah it’s interesting: although it’s Craig’s last (maybe- althoughbif Cruise can keep going why can’t he? And Ant Man is only two films in despite being about the same age) it surely won’t be the last Bond film, so I kind of don’t see them ending his run with Bond ending, if you see what I mean. Bond will return, so I doubt they would want to leave the moviegoers with a line drawn under him completely. So yeah, I’d expect him to be 007 again at some point most probably.

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I won't be upset if Bond25 has an open ending (did Bond die or did he survive?)
Fleming did it. What I would hate is if Bond clearly dies or someone else is 007 at the end of the movie. That would open up the floodgates for the codename theory, a female Bond and all sorts of mess.

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Number24 wrote:

I won't be upset if Bond25 has an open ending (did Bond die or did he survive?)
Fleming did it.

And then a reboot in the next movie with a new Bond and the cliffhanger ignored? That’s quite a fun idea, yeah.

Number24 wrote:

What I would hate is if Bond clearly dies or someone else is 007 at the end of the movie. That would open up the floodgates for the codename theory, a female Bond and all sorts of mess.

I think him dying might be a bit too far: you’ve got quite a leap there in the next film. But the 007 thing I don’t think has to be an issue- you can just not mention it (after all, he ended the last film not being 007 and no one really noticed) whereas if you do a big ‘handover of the number’ scene it would be a bit confusing and leave people not sure what’s coming next. Did anyone see the last episode in the most recent series of Star Trek Discovery? You’ll know what I mean! ajb007/smile

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If Bond25 ends with a cliffhanger (dead/not dead) tehy can ignore it, but I'd prefer it if it was acknowledged in some way. Nothing big, perhaps just a comment from M or Moneypenny that it was a call after the last mission.

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Barbara Broccoli rather forcefully slammed the door on a female Bond in an interview yesterday. She even used the word “gimmick”, which is accurate.  So I think we can finally dispense with that here (although I’m sure the media and the twitterverse will persist).

Whether Bond is “007” at all in this film doesn’t matter since Craig’s Bond is so well-established at this point.

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Craig's Bond is well established now. That's not the point. I'm thinking of the next James Bond actor and the whole franchise.

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you folks who keep saying you don't want a woman to hold the 007 number … are you saying it'd be OK if a man inherited the number? why do you keep attaching gender to this issue?

within the narrative … it's just a number, and if Bond has quit, they reassign it to someone else. And I guarantee CraigBond has no sentimental attachment to his employee number: he's the "do I look like I give a damn" Bond. I think it'd make a very good story if CraigBond had to meet the new agent who'd taken over his old number.


outside the narrative, in our world as filmgoers, there's no way they can market a new film with a new character holding the classic number. I mean presuming this new character is expected to go on to headline future films.
For starters the next film by definition wouldn't be Bond26. it'd be Somebody Else is Agent 007 Episode 1 and why would anybody care about the adventures of Somebody Else is Agent 007?


as to the question of does he die in the last scene … a year ago there were rumours the film would copy Logan, where Wolverine finally dies but only after passing the mantle to his pintsized daughter who has the same mutant superpowers. Now the rumour is Bond will be mentoring a younger female double oh agent … that sure looks similar so far …
and the idea that part of this shall take place in Jamaica … could simply be a nice tribute to Fleming to mark the 25th film. It could also be the series coming full circle, and concluding geographically where it all began.

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Miles Messervy wrote:

Barbara Broccoli rather forcefully slammed the door on a female Bond in an interview yesterday. She even used the word “gimmick”, which is accurate.  So I think we can finally dispense with that here (although I’m sure the media and the twitterverse will persist).

Whether Bond is “007” at all in this film doesn’t matter since Craig’s Bond is so well-established at this point.

We’re not looking at a female Bond, no. That’s something else altogether.

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caractacus potts wrote:

you folks who keep saying you don't want a woman to hold the 007 number … are you saying it'd be OK if a man inherited the number? why do you keep attaching gender to this issue?

within the narrative … it's just a number, and if Bond has quit, they reassign it to someone else. And I guarantee CraigBond has no sentimental attachment to his employee number: he's the "do I look like I give a damn" Bond. I think it'd make a very good story if CraigBond had to meet the new agent who'd taken over his old number.


outside the narrative, in our world as filmgoers, there's no way they can market a new film with a new character holding the classic number. I mean presuming this new character is expected to go on to headline future films.
For starters the next film by definition wouldn't be Bond26. it'd be Somebody Else is Agent 007 Episode 1 and why would anybody care about the adventures of Somebody Else is Agent 007?


as to the question of does he die in the last scene … a year ago there were rumours the film would copy Logan, where Wolverine finally dies but only after passing the mantle to his pintsized daughter who has the same mutant superpowers. Now the rumour is Bond will be mentoring a younger female double oh agent … that sure looks similar so far …
and the idea that part of this shall take place in Jamaica … could simply be a nice tribute to Fleming to mark the 25th film. It could also be the series coming full circle, and concluding geographically where it all began.

Bond indeed wouldn’t give a damn about his number, but I can also see him being a bit annoyed by people (like Moneypenny or Q) trying gleefully to get a rise out of him by mentioning the new 007 etc to his face. So there’s a potential for some laughs or even a bit of a drama there, which makes it worth doing.
They might not leave the film with someone else as 007, and I definitely don’t see them attempting a new series with a non-Bond 007, but I can easily imagine them promoting this one with the ‘meet the new 007!’ headlines, and why not? It’s all good promotion. I think it’s a fun idea.

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I wouldn't want anyone, woman or man except James Bond officially having the 007 number. That being said, it could be another source of humor and done in a way not to really offend many fans sensibilities. Let's say the female MI6 agent is not quite yet a "00" but one kill away. Money Penny could tease Bond "You know she's just one kill away from earning her "00"and I hear M is seriously considering giving her your old number". Bond could respond ala CR "I don't really give a s..t but I'll bloody shoot her if she tries to take the DB5".

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I think being offended by it would be a bit silly: it already happened in a book last year and no one minded then. Having it as a threat is a bit half-hearted: much better just to do it I think.
But the story might not be going that way at all. Having a new, younger British cast member raises the possibility that they might, but is no confirmation at all of course.

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Shooting kicks off tomorrow (Sunday) correct?

Be interesting to see if any leaks / local pics (non - official) 

They have done well so far since leaving Stanstead - no pics on arrival apart from the Plane exterior  ajb007/lol

Instagram - bondclothes007

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caractacus potts wrote:

you folks who keep saying you don't want a woman to hold the 007 number … are you saying it'd be OK if a man inherited the number? why do you keep attaching gender to this issue?

within the narrative … it's just a number, and if Bond has quit, they reassign it to someone else. And I guarantee CraigBond has no sentimental attachment to his employee number: he's the "do I look like I give a damn" Bond. I think it'd make a very good story if CraigBond had to meet the new agent who'd taken over his old number.


outside the narrative, in our world as filmgoers, there's no way they can market a new film with a new character holding the classic number. I mean presuming this new character is expected to go on to headline future films.
For starters the next film by definition wouldn't be Bond26. it'd be Somebody Else is Agent 007 Episode 1 and why would anybody care about the adventures of Somebody Else is Agent 007?


as to the question of does he die in the last scene … a year ago there were rumours the film would copy Logan, where Wolverine finally dies but only after passing the mantle to his pintsized daughter who has the same mutant superpowers. Now the rumour is Bond will be mentoring a younger female double oh agent … that sure looks similar so far …
and the idea that part of this shall take place in Jamaica … could simply be a nice tribute to Fleming to mark the 25th film. It could also be the series coming full circle, and concluding geographically where it all began.

I don't think EON will introduce a new 007 by giving the number to someone else, no. But if someone else has the number at the end of the film, many will think so.

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Is Lashana Lunch maybe playing a henchwoman or something?

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welshboy78 wrote:

Shooting kicks off tomorrow (Sunday) correct?

Be interesting to see if any leaks / local pics (non - official) 

They have done well so far since leaving Stanstead - no pics on arrival apart from the Plane exterior  ajb007/lol

Hopefully we'll get something this week.

@deanwdunlevy

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Let's reflect a bit here....all this young female agent getting the 007 number has pretty much taken on a life of its own based upon an "article" in the Daily Mail that took the participation of a new female writer to do a script polish to another level of muck raking and click baiting. EON (recent interview with Barbara) has been pretty adamant that they will not mess with the Bond fundamentals, especially Bond's gender. I realize that some have pointed out that James Bond is James Bond but the 007 number could go to anyone but IMO they are so inextricably linked that for all intents and purposes they are one in the same and interchangeable despite anything that has been established in recent Bond novels. As I said previously, I don't think (and I have been wrong many many times) that there will be another agent with the 007 number and if it does come up, it will possibly have been
given to another agent who was killed or used to tease Bond regarding the new young agent.