Roger looks strange in AVTAK

Firemass · May 2004

not only really old, but just flat out weird. it's mainly his eyes, it looks like he's wearing crazy contact lenses. (or something)

"Moore isn`t just long in the tooth - he`s got tusks, and what looks like an eye job has given him the pie-eyed blankness of a zombie. "

any thoughts?

Although, AVTAK did give Moore the oppurtinty to play Bond more times than anyone else. Thats probably the films most noteworthy feature.

That is certainly a testament to Roger's popularity, they kept bringing him back until he was absolutely positively too old to continue. They must have figured an old Moore was safer than risking another "Lazenby."

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PS-to AVTAK's credit, there arn't any silly gags or cringeworthy humor. Its a pretty serious affair. What a shame it's not very good. Neither looking or feeling like a Bond movie+ it's not much better than your average hollywood action flick.

Bill Tanner · May 2004

Quoting Firemass:
AVTAK did give Moore the oppurtinty to play Bond more times than anyone else.

Well, whether you choose to disregard NSNA from the official canon or not, it's difficult to deny that Moore and Connery made seven films apiece.

IcePak · May 2004

Moore looks strange in AVTAK because he's had a face-lift.

crawfordboon · May 2004

actually AVTAK is one of those Bonds with lots of camp slapstick, such as Bond being dragged over an ariel on top of a skyscraper just so we can laugh as it hits him in the groin. Or the Fire Chase sequence where he hangs from the swinging ladder and knocks the hats off the heads of two people in a passing convertible!

The stupid chielf also. The car breaking in half in Paris. The police cars getting stuck at the top of the raised suspension bridge then crashing down to mayhem! Lots of silliness. Even the iceberg submersible, why is an M16 craft like that kitted out like Hugh Heffner's bedroom?

And what kind of survellience device is the snooper? It doesn't look anything like a cat, its huge, who would be fooled? And how did it get to the upper floor of Stacy's house?

Ah well.

Willie Garvin · May 2004

Roger had a facelift prior to making A View to a Kill.And at that time he had his mole removed as well.Roger has always been quite near sighted and has difficulty focusing without his glasses.Perhaps this helps to explain his appearance.

Moore Or Less · May 2004

I've never actually noticed that, although just about everyone will disagree with this but I think he looks younger in AVTAK than he did OP. I definetly think it's the hair, he aged quite rapidly in bettwen MR and FYEO...many people have commently on how weird his hair appears in AVTAK

delon64 · May 2004

i have heard and read a lot about rogers appearance but i can honestly say i always thought he looked great as bond...not flemings bond for sure but roger was certainly a throwback to the glamour days of hollywood and for want of a better term he looked special...like a movie star...how eon now must wish they had a younger moore type ready to step in to replace brosnan who also has that matinee idol look about him...i agree with willie garvins comment in another thread that modern hollywood really lacks the classically good looking leading men of the 40s,50s and 60s...roger for all the talk of facelifts,hair dye and myopia was a great looking bond

Napoleon Plural · May 2004

Quoting Moore Or Less:
I've never actually noticed that, although just about everyone will disagree with this but I think he looks younger in AVTAK than he did OP. I definetly think it's the hair, he aged quite rapidly in bettwen MR and FYEO...many people have commently on how weird his hair appears in AVTAK

No I agree. He looked less wan than in OP, where he did look heavier...

Achille Aubergine · May 2004

Quoting Moore Or Less:
many people have commently on how weird his hair appears in AVTAK

It's too light-brown imo, and whilst i think he looks "younger", in another sense I don't. He looks more artificial (don't get me wrong, the surgeon did a good job). Like Joan Collins, who doesn't look 60-odd, but she doesn't look anything else either, because you can see through it to the real age. In certain light, Roger looks quite youthful in AVTAK anyway, but not when he's wearing that leather jacket or puffy grey-blue coat with the Zorin logo.

The Dove · May 2004

When you're nearly 60 years old and they pile makeup on your face and color your hair, you start to look a little funny. Just look at old people who don't want to admit that they are WAY past their prime, people like Elizabeth Taylor and, oh yeah, Roger Moore still (see Boat Trip, wait, no, please DON'T see Boat Trip. It is too sad for us to see Roger in such a pathetic movie at 105 years old.)

Tobias · November 2008

Bill Tanner wrote:

Quoting Firemass:
AVTAK did give Moore the oppurtinty to play Bond more times than anyone else.

Well, whether you choose to disregard NSNA from the official canon or not, it's difficult to deny that Moore and Connery made seven films apiece.

I think Sean Connery did not look too old in NSNA there is a scene in the south of France at the pool and he poses as a pool massuer and he passes a group of women who gives him a look:D

Osato · November 2008

I love Ben Elton's take on Rog:

"Roger was already too old when he started - and by the time he finished his eyebrows had gone pubic!"

However if I look like him at 81 I'll be lucky, In fact, he looks better than me right now, and I'm 39.

yodboy007 · November 2008

I always figured that a facelift was to blame for Sir Roger's odd look in AVTAK. However, it was not just the skin on his face that made him look weird.

For starters, he was too tanned all over his body. So many people think a tan makes them look young. Most of the time in my opinion it looks worse. He wore that leather jacket trying to look hip. Worst of all though was the hair. I always used to wonder why it was so long and covered the back of his neck so thick-like. I think that is because they were trying to hide the wrinkles on his neck from where they gave him a facelift. The skin on his face was pulled so tight they had to tuck some of it somewhere.

Looks aside, Sir Roger turned in a good performance in AVTAK. It's just too bad OP was not his swan song though. That film is much better than AVTAK. Also, I still feel he looked younger in OP than in AVTAK.

Napoleon Plural · November 2008

Sigh... Getting old. It aint for sissies!

I think folk go for an all over tan because the skin starts to grey a little as one gets older, leading to grey or white hair. The tan camoflauges that.

Dan Same · November 2008

Napoleon Plural wrote:

Sigh... Getting old. It aint for sissies!

I think folk go for an all over tan because the skin starts to grey a little as one gets older, leading to grey or white hair. The tan camoflauges that.

Speaking from experience? :v

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Napoleon Plural · November 2008

Sadly mate, yeah. Late 30s, some horrible surprises in store.

Firemass · November 2008

wow....i log onto this site 4 years later and find my old posts floating around.

I just watched A View to a Kill yesterday and i must report it has become one of my TOP favorite films. Roger delivers a great performance and actually looks fairly handsome.

AVTAK feels very much like an old-school 007 movie especially compared to the new Daniel Craig films.

A View to a Kill RULES. You can quote me on that.

dougie007 · November 2008

Can I ask where we got the story that Roger Moore had a facelift around 1983/84? More to the point DOES IT REALLY MATTER?

dougie007 · November 2008

Tobias wrote:

Bill Tanner wrote:

Quoting Firemass:
AVTAK did give Moore the oppurtinty to play Bond more times than anyone else.

Well, whether you choose to disregard NSNA from the official canon or not, it's difficult to deny that Moore and Connery made seven films apiece.

I think Sean Connery did not look too old in NSNA there is a scene in the south of France at the pool and he poses as a pool massuer and he passes a group of women who gives him a look:D

No way! IMO Sean should not have done NSNA - It looks as though the stunts were arranged very carefully so that his "hair" remained on his head. I can't believe that as a 35 year old, married with 2 kids, I'm sitting here posting a reply about how 2 male actors looked in the 1980's!!

Agent Wade · November 2008

I've been wracking my brain over the look of AVTAK. It's not just Roger that's weird. It's about 80% of the movie. I finally figured it out though. It's the combination of soft-focus photography and broad daylight. Whenever it's day time, it seems to always be noon wherever they go. I trust the soft-focus was to paint the star in a less incriminating age, particularly if he's going end up sharing a shower with Tanya Roberts.

farscapeak · November 2008

He had a facelift no question: his face looks tighter and his hair is dyed for no reason to a much lighter colour.

It was a case of the filmmakers going over board in attempt to make Bond look hip. In AVTAK he wears a leather jacket, beds a host of blonds and surfs. Octopussy and For Your Eyes Only seem to make a reference to his age: he was more world wearly in his performance.

For the record I think Connery looks awful in Diamonds are Forever. His weight for example is all over the place.

Tobias · November 2008

I don't know if anybody has noticed in this film you can see the stuntman replacing Roger at certain times like jumping on the lift on the eiffel tower and also when he is chasing May Day in Paris when the car he drives gets smashed in half it is a different driver.

chrisno1 · November 2008

Agent Wade wrote:

I've been wracking my brain over the look of AVTAK. It's not just Roger that's weird. It's about 80% of the movie. I finally figured it out though. It's the combination of soft-focus photography and broad daylight. Whenever it's day time, it seems to always be noon wherever they go. I trust the soft-focus was to paint the star in a less incriminating age, particularly if he's going end up sharing a shower with Tanya Roberts.

AVTAK is certainly one of the poorest photographed films, except the shots in France at the chateau; however Roger Moore was looking old from FYEO and his extension as 007 was one of Eon's less brighter moments. He was almost 60 by the time AVTAK came out and he was really showing it. The film has a few nice touches, but I don't go out of me way to reccommend it to anyone.

Colonel Shatner · November 2008

Here is Roger Moore from boat trip.:))

Yeah, I agree Roger Moore was much older looking in AVTK than he did in Moonraker just six years ago, with his died hair that is starting to look like a wig, corse voice (especially when he yells in action scenes), and reptile skin. He looked worse than Harrison Ford did in The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

scaramangasgoldengun · November 2008

hear's a thing if you watch the deleted scene from AVTAK.. ''the jailhouse''... scene where Bond is released from jail.... Roger looks less strange.. for some reason

in OCTOPUSSY roger looks old but still cool an capable of Bond, he would have looked ok if he didnt have the face lift...

Silhouette Man · March 2013

Roger Moore was the Last of the Gentleman Spies as I intend to note down in my forthcoming review of A View to A Kill. Yes, he did look a lot older in AVTAK but I think they had an older James Bond thing going on there, as in NSNA, although it is not specifically referred to. Moore did have a facelift prior to his appearance in AVTAK, hence this explains his "weird look".

Firemass · March 2013

ha.... do me a favor and don't bring up any more of my anti-AVTAK posts from like 10 years ago!

Silhouette Man · March 2013

I didn't think that it was really anti-AVTAK, especially coming from you, Firemass!

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Thunderpussy · March 2013

I don't think he looked all that old But I do remember he
had his Mole removed, Many have suggested he also had
a little "Laughter lines" removal from around the eyes.

Firemass · March 2013

Silhouette Man wrote:

I didn;'t think that it was really anti-AVTAK, especially coming from you, Firemass! )

well, in my early days of AJB I was heavily influenced by popular opinion that AVTAK was the worst Bond film.
So I honestly never even gave the film a chance, until a couple years ago when I forced myself to re-watch it and was sort of stunned by how great it was. This might actually be the best Roger Moore Bond I thought to myself!

ZorinIndustries · March 2013

Firemass wrote:

Silhouette Man wrote:

I didn;'t think that it was really anti-AVTAK, especially coming from you, Firemass! )

well, in my early days of AJB I was heavily influenced by popular opinion that AVTAK was the worst Bond film.
So I honestly never even gave the film a chance, until a couple years ago when I forced myself to re-watch it and was sort of stunned by how great it was. This might actually be the best Roger Moore Bond I thought to myself!

Amen, Firemass! :007)

Roger looks strange in AVTAK

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