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MrBeech wrote:
David Schofield wrote:

We have a continuous wait for a decent continuation writer to knock out a worthwhile novel and yet there's hope a comic writer can provide a decent approximation of Fleming's Bond?????? To expect some grungy (I suspect American?) man-child to "get" Fleming's 50s/60s hero is laughable.

Though I'm not a fan - comics/graphic novels are for kids, aren't they; I remember having "Roy of the Rovers" until I was 12 - comic Bond has been pretty rubbish since Jim Lawrence (and at least his strips appeared in adult media, newspapers).

And this one, from its title, seems to involve JB and the Scando version of the older man's little blue pill  ajb007/confused

Wow...really? Seems like some pretty broad strokes to depict comics, graphic novels, and their writers. I would hardly describe Neil Gaiman or Alan Moore as "grungy man-children." I understand the skepticism, but comic books have come a long way. I'm actually pretty excited based on the previews they've released so far of VARGR.

ajb007/martini  ajb007/martini

As a fan of old-school comics as well as modern graphic novels, I can say they're not exactly a breeze to read through!  Add audio books to that mix, comprehending the narrative takes a pretty involved mental process, though the experience for each medium is unique.

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

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release date USA?

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Ok, so if i pace myself, Trigger Mortis and Vargr #1 should tie me over the rest of the way till SPECTRE!  - OCT 26/27 ENGLAND and then I get to see it on NOV 6!!!

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I'm still looking for online sites that might have this for pre-order for the US market.  Hoping it will soon be on Amazon.

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

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I went to my local comic store to order all the versions of the new Bond comics.  I was told there are all kinds of rules from the comic distributor if you want the special art covers. Bottom line is, other than the standard editions, it will be next to impossible to get the variant covers.

Very disappointed as I wanted to order all the versions.

Perhaps someone into comics may have an explanation or better news.....

This is where we leave you Mr. Bond. (Pilot, Apollo Airlines)

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http://s10.postimg.org/ejd9ztoyt/DSC_0220.jpg


This arrived today. Had it pre-ordered on eBay. Issue one doesn't give much away but basically;

SpoilerThe issue starts off with bond chasing down a man and you find out that the man had killed 008 in cold blood, Bond introduces himself as 007 before he kills him. Cut to London and we see some drug taking folk in a run down flat about to take what looks to be a new drug. Bond has nice little chat with Moneypenny, before he reports to M. (who is now black for some reason?! moneypenny is, but I just assumed they were looking at the DC movies as reference) He takes on 008's work as he was investigating some drug ring, and reports to Q. Q takes his P99 away from Bond and calls it a woman's gun. Tells him he won't be able to have a weapon till he retrieves it from the diplomatic bag in Germany. Cuts to some guy in a specialist hospital and he can't feel any pleasure. He is then handed a profile of James Bond and says "can we hurt him?" Then the issue ends.   


The artwork is alright, the writing is good in places, makes me want more. Issue two will be out next month.

Below are the Alternate covers.


http://s8.postimg.org/utmgx1i2p/DSC_0221.jpg



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http://s22.postimg.org/4dfm8ouj1/DSC_0223.jpg

"Sic Parvis Magna"
"Greatness From Small Beginnings."

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I just bought the first issue from a local comic shop and was disappointed how short it was; maybe it's been a long, long while since I read a comic book in a monthly format (not the same as graphic novels) so I am unsure if the length is standard nowadays…the main content of the already thin comic seems like it was only half of the book, with the rest images of the alternate covers and miscellaneous promotional ads for Dynamite Comics.  From a consumer's perspective, the cost of $4 for literature that's more like a pamphlet, e.g., it is not a good value.  A word about the variant covers; sure, I get the concept, seeing comics and even magazines do about 4 variant covers, but for VARGR, there are enough variant covers for almost the whole alphabet (A, B, C, etc), which I think is extremely exploitive and predatory towards collectors.

Furthermore, I completely misunderstood the premise of these Bond comics by Dynamite.  Going by the press release from months ago, I thought that these would have a retro setting based on (1) The original Fleming stories, and (2) "original" stories with a retro setting that would explore Bond's world from even before CR, in-between periods like with Trigger Mortis, and stories that explore what happened to characters introduced in the Fleming books, which would necessitate a retro setting.

From their press release:

"Dynamite has been granted worldwide rights to publish comic books, digital comics and graphic novels starring 007, Fleming’s iconic secret agent will re-live the exploits that have thrilled and captivated fans for over half a century in fresh visual adaptations of the classic Bond stories.

Moreover, Dynamite plans to create a series of brand new adventures unveiling the defining – and largely undocumented – early years of Bond’s career. These new stories will draw inspiration from the Fleming canon to explore Bond’s ‘origins’: his raw early years before he gambled with his life in the first novel, Casino Royale (1953). Some other familiar faces from the expansive 007 mythos will also make appearances in this series - criminal masterminds, hired henchmen, glamorous Bond Girls and secret service allies"

" ...CBR also has an interview with Dynamite Senior Editor Joseph Rybandt. According to Rybandt, the 10 year license from IFPL will include adaptations of the original novels ("we have our writer for the adaptation of Casino Royale who just started writing the script") as well as an origin series of graphic novels to be set in the period of the original novels."

As for VARGR, I'm plainly reminded of the Dark Horse comics (except those were made with a decent length), which for me, unfortunately, includes the effect of a retelling of Bond in a contemporary setting that severely lacks soul of the character and his world...like a story from a continuation novel, except the opportunity to grab the readers' imagination and attention was lost because of the brief format of comics.  That would be critical for modern stories to anchor interest, which was successfully done with the Mike Grell trilogy from the 90s, which just oozed with Bondian elements and which crammed so much of that in its equivalent of the PTS...so in sum, I'm disappointed with this new comic and I'll hold off from going forward until Dynamite introduces the promised Fleming adaptations and their new "retro" stories...and on top of that, maybe I'll need to wait a couple of years until these stories are re-released in thicker compilation volumes for it to be worth my money and effort in reading it.

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"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

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superado wrote:

I just bought the first issue from a local comic shop and was disappointed how short it was; maybe it's been a long, long while since I read a comic book in a monthly format (not the same as graphic novels) so I am unsure if the length is standard nowadays…the main content of the already thin comic seems like it was only half of the book, with the rest images of the alternate covers and miscellaneous promotional ads for Dynamite Comics.  From a consumer's perspective, the cost of $4 for literature that's more like a pamphlet, e.g., it is not a good value.  A word about the variant covers; sure, I get the concept, seeing comics and even magazines do about 4 variant covers, but for VARGR, there are enough variant covers for almost the whole alphabet (A, B, C, etc), which I think is extremely exploitive and predatory towards collectors.
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Yeah the amount of covers is really extraordinary. Also you would have to have some deep pockets to track them all down. Yeah comics usually are like that, I would of waited for the collected issues to come out in a graphic novel. But that will be the end of next year by the time we see that.

"Sic Parvis Magna"
"Greatness From Small Beginnings."

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I couldn't agree with Superado more..........

What a disappointment, just another marketing money grab.  My local comic store got me the original and blank cover.  He called today stating he got me a collectors cover (which one, I don't know), it's $40 and waiting to be picked up....... ajb007/rolleyes

This is where we leave you Mr. Bond. (Pilot, Apollo Airlines)

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I quit collecting comics long ago.  I can't justify spending $4 for a monthly short story anymore.  When I was a kid and they were 75 cents, that was a different story.  I may check this one out, though.

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I would buy this if it was all collected together behind one cover; I take it this is what they are planning to do with this once they get all of the individual comics out?

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Silhouette Man wrote:

I would buy this if it was all collected together behind one cover; I take it this is what they are planning to do with this once they get all of the individual comics out?

Yes they will indeed. Probably be around next September time.

"Sic Parvis Magna"
"Greatness From Small Beginnings."

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Robbo88 wrote:
Silhouette Man wrote:

I would buy this if it was all collected together behind one cover; I take it this is what they are planning to do with this once they get all of the individual comics out?

Yes they will indeed. Probably be around next September time.

In that case I'm probably wait until then as my Bond reading list just keeps on piling up!  ajb007/smile  ajb007/martini

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The Domino Effect wrote:

I've never read a graphic novel - although I'll freely admit that some of the best films/TV in recent years has come from that medium - and the last comic I read was Victory, but I'll definitely give this one a go when it comes out.

I've been meaning to pick up the Omnibuses one by one but haven't got around to it. You recommend them, AOS?

Graphic novels when done right can be breathtaking. The best non-super-hero graphic novels that I have read are:

1. Maus 1 & 2 by Art Spiegelman
2. Louis Riel: A Comic-Strip Biography by Chester Brown
3. Logicomix: An epic search for truth by Apostolos Doxiadis and Christos Papadimitriou

You can get more info on them from Amazon. Would love to get more recommendations on books such as these.  ajb007/smile

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AlphaOmegaSin wrote:
stag wrote:

Interesting. The last comic I read was the Dandy but would give this a go.

Id recommend the Bond Omnibus Collections of the Comic Strips printed in the Daily Express  ajb007/martini

I'll definitely second this.  I have every one of these collections, the writing and graphics are brilliant.

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I've read three issues of 'Vargr' - and it's a disappointment. True, Bond's look is traditional here, dating back to the 'Daily Express' incarnation with the trademark comma of black hair.  And the 'world' of this comicbook is somewhat inflected by darker aspects of Daniel Craig's Bond movies.  But after a possibly promising start, 'Vargr' degenerates into a series of brutal, gory shootings, pegged to a flimsy plot, and with very little of the popular 'feel' of Bond (from either books or movies).

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Shady Tree wrote:

I've read three issues of 'Vargr' - and it's a disappointment. True, Bond's look is traditional here, dating back to the 'Daily Express' incarnation with the trademark comma of black hair.  And the 'world' of this comicbook is somewhat inflected by darker aspects of Daniel Craig's Bond movies.  But after a possibly promising start, 'Vargr' degenerates into a series of brutal, gory shootings, pegged to a flimsy plot, and with very little of the popular 'feel' of Bond (from either books or movies).

This isn't particularly high on my "to get" list then by the sounds of things!  ajb007/crap

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^ indeed ! I'd contemplated buying these off eBay - for 'completest' means only...not too sure now  ajb007/crap

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I think that they're collecting them all together into one book form of comics aren't they - best to wait for that to be released I feel, especially if the story's not very good.  ajb007/martini

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As a former comic book collector (and now self-published comic creator) I was intrigued by this new series, and had my brother include this in his 'standing orders' at his local comic book store here in Melbourne.
But after reading the first 3 issues, I'm going to drop it when the VARGR storyline ends at issue #6.  Issue #3 was an improvement but so far I've felt there's very little substance to the story, and the bland interpretation of James Bond leaves me feeling underwhelmed by the whole experience.  Plus the fact I'm shelling out $5.50 Australian per issue makes me feel a bit ripped off.

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WHat I  Like
* Plenty action with decent choreography
* And not over the top movie action, but down to earth, more realistic, ian fleming novel action
* entertaining
* Semi-continuous with the films: Moneypenny is black and they are using the post skyfall Mi6 building
* Bond has a face unique from any the actors

What I don't like
* The artwork - too flat
* M is black just for the sake of being PC ( And the ink color that they went with is weird)
* I'm guessing this is a 6 issue arc, and there isn't really much plot or story wise at all.
* there is no character development for bond
* bond keeps doing coded messages that are stupid and make no sense. and in issue #4 he does it right in front of who he knows is definetely the enemy. He wasn't fooling anyone with "Hello grandpa, my friend's cousing didn't work out." By the way, the first coded message he used text, in issue #4 he calls them and talks in front of the villain?????


Recomendations for improving:
* Get a better artist 
* expand the next story arc after Vargr wraps up to 12 issues. they obviously need more time to tell these stories, 6 issues isn't going to cut it for bond.
* stop trying to be clever with the coded messages

If this was a novel, it would have plenty of action, at the bare bones, it just needs to be paced out more with story and character development.

My reviews:
#1 - a pre-title sequence, a title page if you will, followed by M's debriefing, and a visit to Q branch - Starts out just like a movie, and this Bond feels a bit like sterling archer - plenty of descent wit.
#2 - Fresh off the plane, Bond instantly gets attacked by 2 double agents [very Fleming-esque]. afterwards when he takes his suitcase and starts walking to station G it was badass and hilarious at the same time. Then we get to see German sector of Mi6 which probably takes up way too many pages, and then we get a decent infiltration with bond on what the villain is up to.   
#3 - This is probably my favorite action scene so far. The action, however plot wise, just to have the villain send bond on a wild goose chase to a drug smuggling warehouse (with bad guys that aren't even working for the villain), is an excuse to have an action scene. And in storytelling its always better if story drives the action than if action drives the story. but it was action packed and well choreographed. i loved when bond pulls the shelves down on everybody, that was so awesome. Issue 3 is also where most of the ultra sadistic stuff happens, maybe too sadistic for some, in how bond ruthlessly kills the guy in cold blood, and then afterwards on how the henchman (who isn't rememerable enough to remember his name) shoots up all of sector G. I'll admit its a little Tarantino-esque, so it is way more bloody than anything bond fans are used to, but it works on some level. After the fight scene, the random bar that bond goes to and the shooting up sector G scene took way too many pages up, the warehouse could've taken up 10 pages instead of 15, and the sector g shootout could've taken 5 instead of like 8 .
#4 - The waste way too many pages with bond coding a secret message in front of the villain. in fact we can just drop m all together. We don't have to see bond reporting back to m, we can just asume it happens behind the scenes. The fight scene was great, with a villain that can't feel pain a la Reynard. i wish the oxycotin effect was explained better, i didn't get exactly what effect a pain killer was having on a guy that couldn't feel physical pain. and then when he started bleeding through his eyeballs, it went way over the top. im pretty sure oxycoton overdose doesn't do that. i think bond is ruthless enough to do that to a villain but i don't think he would bleed through his eyeballs. after the fight, bond gets in a very stick situation and it ends on a good cliffhanger.

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Even though I find myself wanting each issue to run longer than it really does, I am really enjoying reading this series. I keep hearing Timothy Dalton's voice in my head when I read James Bond's lines. Also I am really enjoying Jason Masters artwork(why I had not heard prior to picking up this series).

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Is it just ME?
I went to my local comics store & looked over the Bond comics, and sad to say the art was pretty flat & unimpressive IMO. I have a few from the past by Mike Grell & Paul Gulacy that I treasure, but to me, it has to look interesting or else I'd rather just be reading a novel....

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
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Yes, I will agree that Mike Grell & Paul Gulacy's stories had better art, most of what I saw was not very interesting to me and I have been reading comic books since 1989.  Hopefully, the next storyline will have nicer artwork and a stronger story.

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Just found out that the new comic story Eidolon from Dynamite comics arrived  yesterday. Looking forward to checking it out. More details about the series here:https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/comics_eidolon_preview?t=&s=&id=04099