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ajb007/martini  Yes, a nice little touch, I couldn't make it out from the angle it is on screen.

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question or two:


several people have noted the plane Bond flies during the alpine chase scene seems to come out of nowhere
was there an establishing shot introducing its presence, that I somehow missed?

(btw, another reference to classicBond: a chase scene with a small plane that has lost its wings = Live and Let Die)


similarly, when Bond enters the abandoned MI6 HQ, there is a conspicuous establishing shot of the boat he will use to escape
what about that silly safety net?
again, if there was, I missed it, and that was even more unbelievable than the sofa at the beginning

related, was that the same boat he used to survey the new building earlier in the film?
and/or was it meant to be the same boat used in The World is Not Enough?

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There is an establishing shot of the runway below the clinic, and the net is
Used in buildings being demolished, to protect the workers from falling debris.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

There is an establishing shot of the runway below the clinic, and the net is
Used in buildings being demolished, to protect the workers from falling debris.

Well said. And no it's NOT the same boat (Q made more than one before he retired).

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caractacus potts wrote:

question or two:


several people have noted the plane Bond flies during the alpine chase scene seems to come out of nowhere
was there an establishing shot introducing its presence, that I somehow missed?

(btw, another reference to classicBond: a chase scene with a small plane that has lost its wings = Live and Let Die)



similarly, when Bond enters the abandoned MI6 HQ, there is a conspicuous establishing shot of the boat he will use to escape
what about that silly safety net?
again, if there was, I missed it, and that was even more unbelievable than the sofa at the beginning

related, was that the same boat he used to survey the new building earlier in the film?
and/or was it meant to be the same boat used in The World is Not Enough?

The black plane can be seen right in front of the clinic when Bond walks up to it, so it doesn't come out of nowhere ajb007/smile

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I also think that Bond has lost the wings of several planes.
LALD, LTK ( although he wasn't driving)  ajb007/wink  GE and now SP.

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what about that silly safety net?

Standard practice in construction / demolition where you have an open area directly over water.
What you need to be concentrating on , is the shape of the hole  ajb007/wink
(You see it from underneath when he enters the building)

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caractacus potts wrote:

question or two:


several people have noted the plane Bond flies during the alpine chase scene seems to come out of nowhere
was there an establishing shot introducing its presence, that I somehow missed?

We see Bond sitting on a plane on his way to Dr Swann's clinic.

Also, does anyone know if the name of the clinic, Hofler Klinik, has any significance, or if it's just something made up for the film?

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If Bond is never officially sent on a mission, but indeed told to stay in London, why does he get gadgets (admittedly only a watch)?

Also, does he threaten Q's cats? Or what's Q's reason to help him after he refused at first?  ajb007/confused
Bond says "then I'd advise you trust me for the sake of the cats".

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Ornithologist wrote:

Also, does he threaten Q's cats? Or what's Q's reason to help him after he refused at first?  ajb007/confused
Bond says "then I'd advise you trust me for the sake of the cats".

No - Bond doesn't threaten his cats - it's a gag !

Q helps Bond as he trusts him...or certainly backs his hunch.

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An interview that I read with Sam Mendes prior to the release of SPECTRE stated that he was hoping the Aston Martin DB10 would become the iconic Bond car for the current generation of fans, just like the DB5 was to people when the Bond films were first released in the 1960s. However, I find it a bit funny that in the film, the DB10 ends up in a river and the DB5 makes a surprise appearance at the end, being driven into the metaphorical sunset by Bond, somewhat going against Mendes' wish.

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Jellyfish wrote:

An interview that I read with Sam Mendes prior to the release of SPECTRE stated that he was hoping the Aston Martin DB10 would become the iconic Bond car for the current generation of fans, just like the DB5 was to people when the Bond films were first released in the 1960s. However, I find it a bit funny that in the film, the DB10 ends up in a river and the DB5 makes a surprise appearance at the end, being driven into the metaphorical sunset by Bond, somewhat going against Mendes' wish.

There's no way the DB10 could end up an iconic Bond car with the way it was used in the film. The Esprit, Aston Martin V8 and BMW 750iL are all far more special. The DB10 hardly did anything. It would have to make another appearance to be iconic. It seems more like Mendes wants to keep the DB5 as being the most iconic Bond car for every generation.

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Sir Miles wrote:
Ornithologist wrote:

Also, does he threaten Q's cats? Or what's Q's reason to help him after he refused at first?  ajb007/confused
Bond says "then I'd advise you trust me for the sake of the cats".

No - Bond doesn't threaten his cats - it's a gag !

Q helps Bond as he trusts him...or certainly backs his hunch.

Ok my choice of words was incorrect there. I knew he did not actually threaten his cats.  ajb007/lol
It's just that on second view, I didn't quite understand the reason for Q's change of mind. But I think he simply respects and trusts Bond, at least now, after Skyfall. He probably wanted to help him from the beginning and was just teasing him with a reference to the risks he was taking.

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Roger Moore in Spectre...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJpHIolXg7Q

This is brilliant.

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Oh now... ajb007/rolleyes

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There is an interesting piece of music that plays when the helicopter does a loop. It seems to me to be a nod to the slide whistle from TMWTGG when the AMC does the loop.

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0073 wrote:
Grazmeister wrote:

The other thing is the train fight. Great as it is how come the train suddenly appears deserted once it all kicks off and they are free to completely destroy the train without any comeback. Even afterwards no-one comes up to them and says wtf was that all about..they just go off for a shag. No wonder they dumped them off in the middle of the desert when they got the chance  ajb007/lol .

Good of you to bring this train fight up: IMHO it was still, if not a particularly realistic fight scene, never the less one of the rarer ones: it really felt as if Bond was going to kick the bucket in the end. It gave an all too real flash back to me; it had that same desperate feeling of the last blink of an eye that you get when your punch-drunk in the ring or your oppo has gotten that choke down right on you and you know there is nothing in your power you can do. You are at his mercy.
It's a funny thing, I took a glance at my watch to see how far the movie had gone to make sure that: "naah they can't kill Bond now, can they?"
As suspenseful and intense moment as can be had in a movie!

It's a great piece of fisticuffs alright, but I never really felt that Bond had been overpowered and helpless. It moved very fast, and did nor really slow down to show us that Bond was spent ( I'm thinking Goldfinger/ Oddjob here or Bond in OHMSS

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heartbroken_mr_drax wrote:

Roger Moore in Spectre...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJpHIolXg7Q

This is brilliant.

ajb007/bond  ajb007/biggrin

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zaphod99 wrote:
0073 wrote:
Grazmeister wrote:

The other thing is the train fight. Great as it is how come the train suddenly appears deserted once it all kicks off and they are free to completely destroy the train without any comeback. Even afterwards no-one comes up to them and says wtf was that all about..they just go off for a shag. No wonder they dumped them off in the middle of the desert when they got the chance  ajb007/lol .

Good of you to bring this train fight up: IMHO it was still, if not a particularly realistic fight scene, never the less one of the rarer ones: it really felt as if Bond was going to kick the bucket in the end. It gave an all too real flash back to me; it had that same desperate feeling of the last blink of an eye that you get when your punch-drunk in the ring or your oppo has gotten that choke down right on you and you know there is nothing in your power you can do. You are at his mercy.
It's a funny thing, I took a glance at my watch to see how far the movie had gone to make sure that: "naah they can't kill Bond now, can they?"
As suspenseful and intense moment as can be had in a movie!

It's a great piece of fisticuffs alright, but I never really felt that Bond had been overpowered and helpless. It moved very fast, and did nor really slow down to show us that Bond was spent ( I'm thinking Goldfinger/ Oddjob here or Bond in OHMSS

I disagree that Bond is never overpowered. When Madeleine shoots Hinx, and Hinx lets go of Bond, Bond collapses to the floor like a sack of potatoes. Without Madeleine's intervention, Bond would have been thrown off the train.

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I agree, Bond looks to be  almost outclassed  by Hinx, who obviously  is much
bigger and muscular, and indeed looks to be beating the crap out of Bond. Infact
Bond seems to be trying to get a bit of breathing room by heading for the kitchen.
  So in my opinion it's a fantastic fight, Bond is shown as being far from a superman,
but is fighting for his life. As Jellyfish points out, Bond collapses  to the floor during
the fight, as it's taken everthing he's got.

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I need to watch it again I think.I certainly liked it but would have loved just a bit more fear/resignation, one more close up would have done it. As it stands it's defo one of the series highlights in terms of fisticuffs. Craig is really very good at this stuff, up there with Lazenby and Big Tam in my view.

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I agree that for the fights, Craig has had some spectacularly good ones !  ajb007/cheers
I know we all interpretate what we see,but I did think that Craig looked to be
Trying to get away from Hinx, to come up with some plan to deal with him.
    Although like many I did expect him to pop up near the end of the film for
One last big fight.  ajb007/smile

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At the Hofler Klinik Bond asks Q what hotel he's staying at. Q replies, "The Pevsner." A nice nod to the late Tom Pevsner, both Associate Producer from FOR YOUR EYES ONLY to LICENCE TO KILL & Executive Producer on GOLDENEYE.

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ajb007/cheers Very good, I never noticed that.  Nice little touch.

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Jellyfish wrote:
zaphod99 wrote:
0073 wrote:

Good of you to bring this train fight up: IMHO it was still, if not a particularly realistic fight scene, never the less one of the rarer ones: it really felt as if Bond was going to kick the bucket in the end. It gave an all too real flash back to me; it had that same desperate feeling of the last blink of an eye that you get when your punch-drunk in the ring or your oppo has gotten that choke down right on you and you know there is nothing in your power you can do. You are at his mercy.
It's a funny thing, I took a glance at my watch to see how far the movie had gone to make sure that: "naah they can't kill Bond now, can they?"
As suspenseful and intense moment as can be had in a movie!

It's a great piece of fisticuffs alright, but I never really felt that Bond had been overpowered and helpless. It moved very fast, and did nor really slow down to show us that Bond was spent ( I'm thinking Goldfinger/ Oddjob here or Bond in OHMSS

I disagree that Bond is never overpowered. When Madeleine shoots Hinx, and Hinx lets go of Bond, Bond collapses to the floor like a sack of potatoes. Without Madeleine's intervention, Bond would have been thrown off the train.

Exactly. Hinx gives him that one last shove, charging at him like a bull, and Bond is wobbly from then on - his ears are ringing, he throws a limp punch and misses, and he's at Hinx's mercy until Swann gets off a shot. Bond snaps back after Hinx has his hands on Swann's throat. It's a spectacular fight scene.