Boycott Casino Royale!
Gustave_Graves
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As a Bond fanatic, I was obviously delighted when Casino Royale first came out in theaters. Although the tickets were sold out for the 9pm and 11pm showings, I persist and bought the 12am tickets. I'm sad to say that I was let down. I really liked the sin city esque style in the opening and the opening song "You know my name" by Chris Cornell was indeed catchy. Overall I thought the movie was deamable but the actor was not. When asked if I enjoyed the film, I replied "The movie itself was really good, he was not." The most offensive line he could've said in the movie was:
Bartender: Shaken or stirred?
James Bond: Does it look like I give a damn?
That just defeated the whole purpose of Bond franchise. It also ticked me off that he Solange was in plain sight in front of his drink, yet he decided to down the spike drink. Although the character was similar to the original novel, Craig just doesn't cut it.
I'm still a Brosnan fan myself, and although he is not much of an actor, he is still a better Bond in my view. I may be ticking off a lot of Craig fans, but it had to be said.
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Bartender: Shaken or stirred?
James Bond: Does it look like I give a damn?
That just defeated the whole purpose of Bond franchise. It also ticked me off that he Solange was in plain sight in front of his drink, yet he decided to down the spike drink. Although the character was similar to the original novel, Craig just doesn't cut it.
I'm still a Brosnan fan myself, and although he is not much of an actor, he is still a better Bond in my view. I may be ticking off a lot of Craig fans, but it had to be said.
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It's fine not to like Craig, but to degrade him and everyone else involved in the movie is pathetic.
The website you quote is the worst on the net.
1) It wasn't Solange. Solange is the dark haired woman
2) The line: He clearly said shaken not stirred when he first ordered a martini. His "do you think I give a damn" remark was made afterward and was meant to show how angry he was at having lost.
I must say, sorry everyone, but I dislike this movie. It just wasn't Bond, it fell into the same trap as LTK, feeling like an action movie or a spy movie, but by no means a Bond movie with an ungodly bad title song, disposable characters and a long and drawn out film.
In fact, the problem wasn't Craig, he just doesn't seem fully eased into the role, while all the others (except Dalton) fit in right away. His accent, perhaps I'm a bit too used to the upper class English accent, but I just don't see it. Now, I'm not going to bash his looks, but they aren't very Bondish either, in fact, I would've loved to have seen Craig portraying a Bond villain at some point by looking at his previous acting ventures. However, he gets the job done, and does it adequately enough.
However, the problem lies in the characters, M, while Judi Dench, is not the same M we've seen in the Brosnan era, gone is her "accounting" persona and in with her... "bitchy old hag" persona that made me want to strangle her. My ideal ending would be Bond killing her, and saying "Okay, now the bitch is really dead."
Also, Le Chiffre and his henchpeople are all dull, dull, dull! Dimitrios, Obanno, Valenka and Solange were among the first people to appear on the cast lists, and I was hoping for them to say more than a few lines before booking a stay at Slumber Inc.! Did Valenka actually ever speak? No. And I can summarize Le Chiffre in one word, and that is sourpuss. That was his threatening and scary prowess, the unmovable scowl that invaded his face, which is the only thing going for the character except that when he cries, it's blood, though I somehow kept missing those sequences, which angered me to no end.
Also, the poker game and the love angle with Vesper, while essential to the storyline could have been shortened. I don't mean, trim a few things here and there, I mean CHOP CHOP CHOP. The end was very confusing and I would take a gondola chase in St. Marks Square over the baffling ending any day.
So I wouldn't say boycott Casino Royale per se, but I really, wholeheartedly, disliked the film on the whole.
JFF Tidbit: Solange, learning of her equestrian tendencies, almost struck me as the next Jenny Flex. However, this is not the case, as not only does she perhaps get less screen time than this AVTAK vixen but Jenny has more personality! Eugh!
Also, at least when I walked out of Die Another Day, I sort of liked it, granted, I was in fifth grade, but I thought it had a redeeming element in Miranda Frost, before that element was killed by the anti-redeeming element known as Jinx that is. When I walked out of this movie, it made no lasting impact, and gave me one feeling. The feeling of...
Eh.
I'm glad you don't like Craig, because YOU'RE FREE TO DO IT!, as well as i'm happy with people that like him because THEY'RE FREE TO DO IT AS WELL!. if you want to hate him, go ahead, be my guest, if someone wants to support him, the same for them.
About CR: is complicated to say all that has to be said -though over here people might said pretty much everything that could be said- but is in a high percentage different, starting with Craig.
About Craig, people said that he is James Bond (which, accroding to EON he is... as much as i like-love-worship Clive Owen he hasn't been Bond in any of the official films, so he clearly isn't) perhaps he doesn't looks as gorgeous or he doesn't behave as he might... that's a question of tastes.
But you can't judge his actors skills without seing other movies, so if you hate him being Bond, give him a chance as Steve or XXXX... afterwards you can say anything about he as an actor.
Pierce Brosnan did his homework. some say that great, some others says ok, other hate him, but it is truth, he deserved a better script, a CR kind of script, BUT NOT THIS ONE...
The drink issue: I'm outraged as you do, because he kinda invents the drink in the Book, and the Book is a very different that the movie (for what i understand) but you have to understand two things: 1). this movie is different, if you expect something more like the previous ones, please see Bond 22 or maybe Bond 23, or why not Bond 1 to 7. 2). IS NOT CRAIG'S FAULT. HE DIDN'T WRITE THE SCRIPT.
there are some things about CR that i don't understand, others that kinda annoy me, but i will go tho the theatre to see the Bloody movie, if i like it or not, is up to me, i may say something to someone, but even if i'm disappointed... i'll try not to endorse CnB... i think in Dec 7 to 10 it may not make any sense at all.
CnB is a funny website, that mocks Craig lack of "standard look" in his pictures (sorry, but i don't find the word in english for [fotogenico]or, the fact that Craig hardly look the same in two pictures) and said things that were valid a long ago, but not much now that the fans have talked...
As a matter of fact, and as they say in the CnB FAQ, neither Babs, Mickey, MGM or Sony had give me a nickel, a cent, a penny or any kind of money or other reward to defend (no, like) Craig... well unless you think that the fact that my PS2 hasn't broke down is some sort of it.
JJF: i always loved your post, but as you call MAYOR SPOILERS in it, i pass it fast, when i see the movie i hope to read you and give you my opinion.
Now, true i will always love pierce, but they could not have found a better replacement. Craig makes us question Bonds thinking and decisions and really showed us what Bond is kinda defined as in that it is how he always makes it through. How he digs deeper and finds something somewhere in him that makes him get back up and keep going, for what reason though? to survive.
Craig is as believable as Bond as Connery.
Good luck with the boycott
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Sorry, I know it may be odd for me, but I just had to rant.
Also, since I hate it, everyone else is going to love it, so good news on that front!
It's all right, JFF...you'll always have Sir Roger's videos {:)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
DVD's, Loeff, DVD's. In fact, to watch a real Bond film that doesn't make me angry, I'm going to watch AVTAK very soon.
And yes---by all means---enjoy the snow-surfing and the iceberg-shaped boat with the Union Jack on the hatch. You've earned it
As a matter of fact, I respect you for at least giving CR a chance---even though you went in knowing it wasn't your kind of Bond film. I did the very same with AVTAK back in '85,
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
No, no, Loeff, you're pegging me wrong again! I walked in with an open mind. I saw the awful title sequence and was a bit skeptical, however I loved the Uganda sequence, I even gave Craig a chance and he worked, it's just anything after Uganda that bugged the crap out of me.
Well, I'm glad you went in with an open mind, despite having advance knowledge of the reboot, 'gritty' approach, no Q or Moneypenny, controversial actor, etc---all elements which seem diametrically opposed to Roger Moore and AVTAK's approach to Bond.
My point is that you went at all (on opening weekend, no less!!), which I greatly respect {[]
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
For once, I agree. You know, I liked the movie, but I didn't see this as a James Bond film though. But however, it was a great action film.
And, sorry, but promoting that vile, vitriolic, worthless, childish site here will win you no friends. DCINB now looks like a fringe presidential candidate who just got stomped in an election and who is still out there screaming, "No, really, I won! I won!" That site has now lost all reason to be. What's the next step? To urge people to not buy the DVD when it comes out? To not go to the movie when it makes it to the second-run theaters in a couple of months? To get EON to tear up Craig's contract and bring back Brosnan? Well, don't worry: Craig has said he'll do only three films, so maybe in four years you can all stand up and say, "See--told you we could get him to quit!"
Sorry, Gustave_Graves, no one here is buying what you're selling.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Why Loeff I'm touched! Between all the arguments over LTK and how Bond should be portrayed, I'm glad we can finally see eye-to-eye (sort of).
To understand your post, I would like to ask what "deamable" means?
You're going to need some good luck with that boycott. CR $40M up in the US already ...
If you're a fan of the Roger Moore/Pierce Brosnan kind of Bond - all smarm and stunts you ain't gonna like it. If you are a fan of the books and Connery/Dalton you're going to love it.
And as a fan more of the book view of Bond I'm ecstatic about what they've done. Since OHMSS the realistic episodes have been rare treats (i.e. FYEO/TLD/LTK) for me, but now it looks like the series is going to head in that direction for the entirety of Craig's tenure and not before time!
LOL! Have you not heard the latest news...?
In case you hadn't noticed, Craig has won over just about every reviewer on this planet, he has won fans over on every Bond forum on this planet, and now the box-office figures that are rolling in are looking very good indeed (it broke DAD's opening weekend here in the UK).
Boycott?? Some boycott. Hate to tell you this, but the boycotters lost - big time!!
This must be causing you and your CnB gang much distress right now, and I for one am very pleased about that.....:D
How so?
You've lost me.
Digital VERSATILE Dics, actually!
You preferred Die Another Day to Casino Royale??
IMHO Dad was awful (come on it had an invisible car!)and so unrealistic. Whereas CR was a breath of fresh air and Craig was brill as Bond!!
He preferred DAD to CR.......:))
Says it all really....;)