John Barry Interview

Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
From MI6.

Composer John Barry talks 007 - 'Lazenby was the worst Bond ever'

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=4884

The Observer Music Monthly supplement conducted a brief interview with legendary James Bond composer John Barry this month.

OMM: How did you first get involved with the Bond movies?

John Barry: I was called up and told they were making the Bond movies. I hadn't read the books. All I knew was the Daily Mail's James Bond cartoon strip. I did Dr No without ever seeing the movie. I was a big bebop fan and wrote a bit for the film and it all came together. It was a huge hit and that was the start of it. We did Dr No, then From Russia With Love. But it was with Goldfinger that I got to do the whole thing. I wrote the song for Shirley (Bassey) and the whole score. I was called to the offices afterwards and Harry Saltzman (co-producer of Bond) said: 'That's the worst f*****g song I've ever heard. We open in three weeks and if I had time I'd throw it on the crap heap.' The song runs throughout the whole movie. It's what I do; use the theme in variations as a hook throughout the film. It gives the audience some sort of lead from one scene to the next. It really works.

OMM: Which is your favourite Bond soundtrack?

JB: Well, Goldfinger because it was the first big hit all over the world. George Lazenby in On Her Majesty's Secret Service was probably the worst Bond ever, but it's one of the best scores. He was so bad I felt I had to make up for it with the music. I think I was fortunate enough to be at the beginning of Bond with the classic style. I did about 11 of them and then checked out. I wanted to move on and do something else.

OMM: What do you make of modern scores?

JB: Spielberg and John Williams do some fantastic stuff together, but the golden era of songwriting is over. The most important thing is, will this get radio play, not whether it'll fit the movie. It's not the movie scoring as I understand it.

Comments

  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    Ow! JB seems a bit grouchy now, especially in his comments about Lazenby (though over twenty years ago I read an interview in which Barry said that, in the scene where Bond loses Tracy, Lazenby "couldn't have created a boiled egg"). And, while I think Barry's correct that movie scores are more hit-oriented now, I don't think things are as bleak as he says. If anything, David Arnold's score for Casino Royale is proof that great film scores are alive and kicking!
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,387Chief of Staff
    Part of JB's sourness toward Lazenby stems from the latter attending one of the recording sessions and watching Barry put the music to a scene.
    "It fits!" said Lazenby, while Barry thought "What do you think I do for a living? Christ, we've got a real brain going here".
    Lazenby's suggestion that Blood Sweat And Tears perform "We Have All The Time In The World"- instead of Louis Armstrong- also did not endear him to the composer.

    Barry's disagreements with Saltzman were numerous and legendary- at one point JB practically threw Saltzman out of his flat for complaining that the title song for DAF ("Touch it, stroke it and undress it") was pornographic!
    His bad feeling re Saltzman was one reason why he didn't score LALD.
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    The whining of these old guys does get tiresome.
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    John Barry certainly does not mince his words. Maybe that's what happens when you get to a certain age, you just get tired of all the bull and say things as you see them regardless of any consequence. Or maybe he's always been like that?
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,992Quartermasters
    edited March 2007
    Good thing he doesn't post here...I wonder if he'd use smileys.
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,387Chief of Staff
    Yup, he's always been like that! His, er, disagreements with producers (eg Saltzman as above) and directors (eg Barbra Streisand on The Prince Of Tides) are legion. He often left projects (stories vary as to exactly how he left them...) but usually managed to save the music he'd composed for future use.
    "Moviola" was originally intended for the Streisand film, and parts of his album "The Beyondness Of Things" started life as the score for The Horse Whisperer.
    During the famous court case over the writing of the "James Bond Theme" JB was called to give witness, causing us to frantically whisper "Just don't swear, John, please don't swear". Fortunately he didn't :).
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,621Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    During the famous court case over the writing of the "James Bond Theme" JB was called to give witness, causing us to frantically whisper "Just don't swear, John, please don't swear". Fortunately he didn't :).

    Why do I feel that you have got some great stories to tell ?

    Perhaps oneday ? ;)
    YNWA 97
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,387Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Why do I feel that you have got some great stories to tell ?

    Sir Miles, please check your PMs ;).
  • LazenbyLazenby The upper reaches of the AmazoPosts: 606MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    During the famous court case over the writing of the "James Bond Theme" JB was called to give witness, causing us to frantically whisper "Just don't swear, John, please don't swear". Fortunately he didn't :).

    Interesting...does this mean you've met him?
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,387Chief of Staff
    Lazenby wrote:
    Interesting...does this mean you've met him?

    Yes, although I doubt if he'd remember me- it was five years ago now, and he's slightly :)) more famous than I am. :#
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,293MI6 Agent
    Come on guys, Barry's a genius. Why no knighthood? Did he turn one down? These guys are just telling it how it is, none of that New Labour charisma and spin on everything is refreshing in my book. It's only what we do the whole time on this board. Same goes with Connery, and aren't we being ageist? After all, when a young gun in a rock band cuts it rough, we don't say their grouchy or grumpy, instead they're a rough diamond or a hellraiser.

    I do feel a bit sorry for Lazenby, it's like he unwittingly rubbed everyone up the wrong way. That can happen when you're in a new area and everyone's a bit territorial and you're a bit enthusiastic. Imagine a new Bond on DAD! "Well, that invisible car is rubbish, awful CGI..." and everyone who say, who are you, pal?! :))
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • bluemanblueman PDXPosts: 1,667MI6 Agent
    The whining of these old guys does get tiresome.

    Stop picking on me!!!

    Oh, nevermind.
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