You know, there's nothing far-fetched at all about a terrorist organization trying to destabilize the world economy as a means of gaining control. Why did Al Qaeda try for years--and, unfortunately, succeed--in taking down the Twin Towers? Because they believed it would be a crippling blow to America's economy, and, by extension, to the economy of the world. Terrorists talk a lot about hitting stock markets and major financial centers as a means of causing economic chaos. Even Hugo Chavez tried to convince OPEC to go off the dollar because it would hurt us evil imperialist Yanquis. So, again, I don't think we're necessarily in for secret underground lairs, pirhana pools, and capsule-stealing rocket ships; we might be in for a plot that strikes a very real, very raw nerve.
You know, there's nothing far-fetched at all about a terrorist organization trying to destabilize the world economy as a means of gaining control. Why did Al Qaeda try for years--and, unfortunately, succeed--in taking down the Twin Towers? Because they believed it would be a crippling blow to America's economy, and, by extension, to the economy of the world.
Very true; but they're not really looking to 'take over the world' in a Bond-style way- as I understand it they simply see the US as their enemies and are trying to destroy it. They seem to want foreign powers cut off from them completely and some sort of superiority for their idea of the Islamic faith.
These are all a bit weighty matters to be talking about on a Bond forum of course (!) and I remember Daniel Craig agreeing in a roundabout sort of way: I'm sure at the time of CR he was asked many times how realistic and tough the new Bond films would be and he was pretty clear that Bond shouldn't get too realistic: 'there should always be a guy with a suitcase of money at the end of the trail' I think was what he said i.e. the bad guys won't be doing their plotting from some sort of ideology. It's bad taste to be addressing such matters with such a frivolous tool as James Bond 007. More everything they do will be driven by the desire for cash- I guess that's a sort of clearer morality tale. Bond's got to be a little black and white- it's a mainstream blockbuster.
And no, before anyone says it; he wasn't disrespecting Spy Who Loved Me or Moonraker's plots; he's simply talking about a Bond for here and now.
As Craig seems to have an awful lot of say into how these movies are put together, I think we can be fairly sure that the bad guy will be doing what he's doing in order to get that 'suitcase full of cash'.
For the record, em, I'm not saying that the plot of Bond 22 will involve 007 taking on Islamic fanatics. I'm pointing out that, contrary to the opinion of the person who got this argument started, it isn't out of the realm of probability and possibility that an organization can try to destabilize the world economy. (That's one reason I threw Hugo Chavez into the mix.) I can imagine Mr. White's group trying to bring nations to their knees without once firing a nuclear missile or capturing an atomic submarine.
For the record, em, I'm not saying that the plot of Bond 22 will involve 007 taking on Islamic fanatics. I'm pointing out that, contrary to the opinion of the person who got this argument started, it isn't out of the realm of probability and possibility that an organization can try to destabilize the world economy.
For that same record, and as per usual; I'm agreeing with you.
I'm just extending your point a bit further to address that guy upthread who hated the idea of the bad guys looking to 'take over the world' for the sake of it or for political or ideological reasons; according to Craig a year or so back, that's not going to happen in his Bond films.
Attacking the economy, as you say, is a very viable way to bring down a country; but unless there's a profit in it for them, the 21st Century fictional Bond villains won't be doing it.
Here's that quote, by the way- it's pretty easy to find:
CRAIG ON CASINO ROYALE'S TERRORIST VILLAINS
Although Bond battles with machete-wielding terrorists-one of whom is modeled on the leaders of the treacherous Ugandan child-snatchers, The Lord's Resistance Army — he assures Premiere that the movie is not polemically charged. "Every terrorist in this movie is non-political," he says. To that point, Craig lobbied to remove a suicide bomber from an earlier version of the script. "I said, we can't have that in this movie because the connotations of a suicide bomber are something that lie within religion and politics. We have to make sure that all of the guys that are setting bombs and trying to hurt people are basically walking away with a suitcase of cash."
I doubt there's any reasons for his thoughts on that to have changed in the interim, so I'd imagine the 'suitcase of cash' remains the goal for those naughty baddies!
Or at the very least; something which stays far outside of anything which sounds religious or political- which in these days could even extend to Stromberg's 'New World Order' I suppose!
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Very true; but they're not really looking to 'take over the world' in a Bond-style way- as I understand it they simply see the US as their enemies and are trying to destroy it. They seem to want foreign powers cut off from them completely and some sort of superiority for their idea of the Islamic faith.
These are all a bit weighty matters to be talking about on a Bond forum of course (!) and I remember Daniel Craig agreeing in a roundabout sort of way: I'm sure at the time of CR he was asked many times how realistic and tough the new Bond films would be and he was pretty clear that Bond shouldn't get too realistic: 'there should always be a guy with a suitcase of money at the end of the trail' I think was what he said i.e. the bad guys won't be doing their plotting from some sort of ideology. It's bad taste to be addressing such matters with such a frivolous tool as James Bond 007. More everything they do will be driven by the desire for cash- I guess that's a sort of clearer morality tale. Bond's got to be a little black and white- it's a mainstream blockbuster.
And no, before anyone says it; he wasn't disrespecting Spy Who Loved Me or Moonraker's plots; he's simply talking about a Bond for here and now.
As Craig seems to have an awful lot of say into how these movies are put together, I think we can be fairly sure that the bad guy will be doing what he's doing in order to get that 'suitcase full of cash'.
For that same record, and as per usual; I'm agreeing with you.
I'm just extending your point a bit further to address that guy upthread who hated the idea of the bad guys looking to 'take over the world' for the sake of it or for political or ideological reasons; according to Craig a year or so back, that's not going to happen in his Bond films.
Attacking the economy, as you say, is a very viable way to bring down a country; but unless there's a profit in it for them, the 21st Century fictional Bond villains won't be doing it.
http://www.premiere.com/actors/3171/james-bond-extra.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article68991.ece
I doubt there's any reasons for his thoughts on that to have changed in the interim, so I'd imagine the 'suitcase of cash' remains the goal for those naughty baddies!
Or at the very least; something which stays far outside of anything which sounds religious or political- which in these days could even extend to Stromberg's 'New World Order' I suppose!
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