The REAL Villain Is. . .Pacino?!

HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,885Chief of Staff
Here's one lollapalooza of a rumor, and if it's true (which I very much doubt), it would also be a major spoiler. It concerns the head of the QoS terrorist organization--not Mr. Green, but the "Blofeld" of the group. Here's the link if you want to read the story:


http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35606

And if you want the short version, well, this is it:
The head bad guy has been cast, and it's Al Pacino.

Take this for what it's worth. I'll take it with lots of salt myself!
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  • Apocrypha23Apocrypha23 Posts: 177MI6 Agent
    *Sigh*... I see AICN hasn't changed their "send us anything and we'll post it" policy. I guess when you throw everything at the wall... some of it sticks.
  • SolarisSolaris Blackpool, UKPosts: 308MI6 Agent
    Possible, but Highly Highly unlikely.

    Now where is that bucket of Salt I ordered?
  • DAWUSSDAWUSS My homepagePosts: 517MI6 Agent
    This came 47 days too early
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,738MI6 Agent
    Yeah, this has been going the rounds for a little while- especially with people trying to post it on IMDB and Wikipedia (usually with it getting removed soon after). Anything's possible, but the way it's doing the rounds does make me think of someone trying to start a rumour rather than the truth leaking out. I'm sure it'll make the papers now, though. We'll find out in time, I suppose.
  • Tee HeeTee Hee CBT Headquarters: Chicago, ILPosts: 917MI6 Agent
    If true, does that make Dominic Greene his "little friend." :))
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  • VC_Dirty MindVC_Dirty Mind Posts: 41MI6 Agent
    Al Pacino? Oh come on! He's over the top, and he is the last person to be part of a Bond-movie. If any of this news is true, I guess it has to be the part about a 'new Blofeld'. But Al Pacino playing this character, no way.

    If the part about the 'new Blofeld' is true, I would find it a very good idea.
  • SolarisSolaris Blackpool, UKPosts: 308MI6 Agent
    I don't think Al Pacino is too "Over The Top" to play a Bond Villian. I just think it depends on the type of Bond Villian. I wouldn't like him to be the "new Blofeld" because that would conjur up images of Michael Corleone or Tony Montana or his character in Ocean's 13. if Al Pacino WAS cast in a Bond film as a villian I'd rather have him play a character like his character in The Recruit.

    having said that I still deem it highly unlikely and if the rumour is true I don't think I'd be paticularly happy because the leader of a criminal organisation is a character Pacino has played too many times before, having played the Godfather, Tony Montana, The Devil etc. if they are planning to cast a "new Blofeld|" I can think of many better choices.
  • GeorgiboyGeorgiboy Posts: 632MI6 Agent
    I highly doubt that. -{
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,993Quartermasters
    This rumour makes me smile :)
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  • jamesbondagent007jamesbondagent007 Divided States of TrumpPosts: 236MI6 Agent
    This would be a dumb idea in many ways.

    But an awesome idea in equally as many ways! :))
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,699MI6 Agent
    If this is a rumor, please let it stay a rumor. Let his role be uncredited. Keep having his name removed from imdb and everything else. Let it be a little surprise for us. We'll be sitting in the theater scratching our heads saying, "what I thought was a rumor, might not be. Was the Al Pacino I just saw?" This would make me smile more.
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  • VirgilVirgil Posts: 99MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Here's one lollapalooza of a rumor, and if it's true (which I very much doubt), it would also be a major spoiler. It concerns the head of the QoS terrorist organization--not Mr. Green, but the "Blofeld" of the group. Here's the link if you want to read the story:


    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35606

    And if you want the short version, well, this is it:
    The head bad guy has been cast, and it's Al Pacino.

    Take this for what it's worth. I'll take it with lots of salt myself!

    It makes a lot of sense to me. I wouldn´t want an unknown to play "the new Bloefeld" (if they include the character again); I think they should highlight the part a lot, and what better way to highlight it than to have a heavyweight like Pacino to play it.
    Also, the fact that Pacino played many times the string-puller capo doesn´t rule him out. On the contrary, it makes him perfect. Don´t forget the extraordinary actor he is; I don´t expect another Corleone or Montana. The context would be totally different,and it would be a face to face we wouldn´t forget. That would also mean that he would appear as the main villain after QoS.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    I like the "highlight to read" function, very 007 {[]
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  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    Bondtoys wrote:
    I like the "highlight to read" function, very 007 {[]

    Yes, it is pretty cool. However the purpose of it has been negated since so many replies to HB's post contain the spoiler.

    Anyway, I think this rumor is exactly that. I have a hard time picturing this actor in a James Bond villian role. I might be biased, because I never cared for him as a performer. It seems like he plays every role the same, kinda like Tom Cruise. His performances also come across to me as OTT which would stick out like a sore thumb in Craig's films.
  • PendragonPendragon ColoradoPosts: 2,640MI6 Agent
    my first reaction to reading this was "Oh good God no..." :o

    not that I have anything against Al, but seriously? I don't know if I could handle him as a Bond villain. IMHO, this rumor should stay a rumor.

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  • VirgilVirgil Posts: 99MI6 Agent
    Hmmm...It´s all over the place. Just google "Al Pacino" and "James Bond". If there is smoke, there must be fire somewhere. I´ll be the devil´s advocate here ;) and say if it finally comes true, it´s a great casting decision. Ít´ll be an open ending in QoS, with Bond apparently winning, then the real enemy behind it all shows his face, to fight Bond in the next one. Consistent with everything we know and suspect so far.
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    At least one other person shares the same opinion as me...
    Think that A Quantum Of Solace is a crappy name for a James Bond title? Perhaps it'll make more sense when it's bellowed by a 67-year-old shouting midget with no real sense of subtlety.

    You guessed it - Al Pacino is going to star in the new James Bond movie A Quantum Of Solace.

    Thank God for that - after spending weeks fretting over the quality of the new James Bond film, it looks like all our fears were misplaced. Now that Al Pacino has signed up for a role in A Quantum Of Solace, we're confident that it'll be at least as good as Ocean's Thirteen. Phew, right?

    New James Bond movie A Quantum Of Solace isn't even released until November, and already everyone's frothing themselves into a tizzy about it. Daniel Craig may have proved himself in the not quite as good as everyone says it is Casino Royale, but that's not to say there aren't plenty of other things to worry about.

    Like the director. Marc Forster might be good at directing hushed little films about sad Afghans, but films about a smooth-talking ****** shooting 32 foreigners in the head and then zinging out an off-the-cuff quip about female genitalia? We'll have to wait and see. The main concern, though, seems to be that Bond 22 is called A Quantum Of Solace - not so much a title as an apology. An apology about dishwasher tablets, from what we can work out.

    Or at least that was the main concern about A Quantum Of Solace. The new main concern with A Quantum Of Solace is that ****ing Al Pacino's going to be in it.

    It's true, Al Pacino is going to be in A Quantum Of Solace. The Mirror said so:

    After top secret negotiations in LA, the screen legend is set to play the head of the international terrorist group introduced in Casino Royale. A Bond insider revealed last night: "It's not a major role but it's an extremely important one. It will be a brief on-screen appearance. "Everyone is really excited at the prospect of having such a huge star joining the cast. It will be fabulous to see him square up against Bond."

    Yes, we can't wait either. Imagine that - the star of Gigli, Two For The Money and Ocean's Thirteen lending some star power to the 007 franchise. Well, when we say 'lending some star power' we actually mean 'strolling on five minutes from the end and shouting all his lines like he's trying to explain a complicated abstract concept to a clueless deaf pensioner.' Which is kind of the same thing.

    Anyway, we don't want to judge Al Pacino's role in A Quantum Of Solace yet because we haven't seen it. Plus it's just a cameo, like when Madonna turned up in the middle of that Die Another Day fencing scene.

    And that was just super, wasn't it?
  • VC_Dirty MindVC_Dirty Mind Posts: 41MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    This is what a Belgian newspaper said today:

    http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/945/Film/article/detail/170859/2008/02/14/Al-Pacino-speelt-slechterik-in-nieuwe-Bondfilm.dhtml

    Btw, you can compare this newspaper with The Sun. Not always very precise and most of the time based on rumours.

    This is the translation of the interview:
    AL PACINO IS THE NEW BOND VILLAIN.

    It seems Al Pacino is going to play the head of a secret organisation in the upcoming Bond-movie 'Quantum of Solace'.

    A source in the Daily Mirror said: "Al Pacino has been approached for the role of bad guy. It's not a major role but it's an extremely important one. The studio thinks Pacino is going to be the best villain ever in a Bond-movie. Pacino is expected to arrive at Pinewood Studios in April or May. He will follow in the footsteps of Christopher Walken, Christopher Lee and Robert Carlyle.

    In the new Bond-movie Daniel Craig takes revenge on the terrorists who are responsible for the death of his love, Vesper Lynd. Quantum of Solace is expected to arrive in cinema in November 2008.
  • bondaholic007bondaholic007 LondonPosts: 878MI6 Agent
    Ive just had a google alert its confirmed.
  • 00-Agent00-Agent CaliforniaPosts: 453MI6 Agent
    darenhat wrote:
    At least one other person shares the same opinion as me...
    Anyway, we don't want to judge Al Pacino's role in A Quantum Of Solace yet because we haven't seen it. Plus it's just a cameo, like when Madonna turned up in the middle of that Die Another Day fencing scene.

    And that was just super, wasn't it?

    My favorite part of the article was the end: "Anyway, we don't want to judge...".:)).:)).:))

    By the way, who wrote that?
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  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    00-Agent wrote:
    darenhat wrote:
    At least one other person shares the same opinion as me...
    Anyway, we don't want to judge Al Pacino's role in A Quantum Of Solace yet because we haven't seen it. Plus it's just a cameo, like when Madonna turned up in the middle of that Die Another Day fencing scene.

    And that was just super, wasn't it?

    My favorite part of the article was the end: "Anyway, we don't want to judge...".:)).:)).:))

    By the way, who wrote that?

    I found the article on some website called 'Hecklerspray' or something like that. It wasn't until I pasted it in that I realized there was no citation to it, and I couldn't remember exactly where it came from. Sorry! ;%
  • 00-Agent00-Agent CaliforniaPosts: 453MI6 Agent
    No problem, I enjoyed the article. I was just wondering how much weight to give it. To me it is still firmly in the rumor column.
    "A blunt instrument wielded by a Government department. Hard, ruthless, sardonic, fatalistic. He likes gambling, golf, fast motor cars. All his movements are relaxed and economical". Ian Fleming
  • yodboy007yodboy007 McMinn CountyPosts: 129MI6 Agent
    edited February 2008
    darenhat wrote:
    Bondtoys wrote:
    I like the "highlight to read" function, very 007 {[]

    Yes, it is pretty cool. However the purpose of it has been negated since so many replies to HB's post contain the spoiler.

    Anyway, I think this rumor is exactly that. I have a hard time picturing this actor in a James Bond villian role. I might be biased, because I never cared for him as a performer. It seems like he plays every role the same, kinda like Tom Cruise. His performances also come across to me as OTT which would stick out like a sore thumb in Craig's films.
    darenhat, I suggest that between now and November you check out the following Pacino films if you have time. These films will prove his versatility as an actor. Hardly ever has he played the same character.

    The Godfather Trilogy
    Dog Day Afternoon
    Scarface
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Carlito's Way
    Donnie Brasco

    These films prove that Pacino is one of the world's greatest actors (maybe the greatest living). In these films he plays a calm and collected villain, a man at his wit's end who is desperately in love, a vulgar, OTT, murderous drug dealer, a hot-headed cocky real estate agent who rips on everyone, a cool-headed and reformed criminal who wishes to lead a normal life with his girl, and an aging, sympathetic, low-level gangster who never got any respect. This is just the tip of the iceberg on what this man can do. The only times he has been a little OTT is in his recent films, but we all know how hard it is to find good roles and films for people his age. Don't judge the man by his recent films.

    I am excited to hear Al is going to be in QOS. I think having him play a small part is brilliant and I can't wait to see him and Craig confront each other. I expect him to bring a twist to his villainous role that the likes of Michael Corleone or Tony Montana could have never pulled off. His screen presence is nearly unmatched.

    Lastly, when it comes to acting, Pacino wipes the floor with Craig, and every other 007 actor for that matter. Don't act like the 007 actors are on the level of the world's greatest actors. They are good at what they do, and that is James Bond. None of them have proven much else outside of the franchise. At least, nothing that touches what Pacino has done.
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Don't forget to add Heat to that list of great Pacino movies
  • Johnny DangerJohnny Danger Savannah, GA USAPosts: 60MI6 Agent
    Al Pacino? Oh come on! He's over the top, and he is the last person to be part of a Bond-movie. If any of this news is true, I guess it has to be the part about a 'new Blofeld'. But Al Pacino playing this character, no way.

    If the part about the 'new Blofeld' is true, I would find it a very good idea.

    Well, if he can play Dick Tracy's arch villain FlatTop, why not James Bond's arch villain Blofeld... or the modern equivilent? I gotta admit, it's hard to picture Pacino doing a Bond flic, but I think it would be cool as hell...

    Bond battles Scarface!

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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,885Chief of Staff
    Well, if he can play Dick Tracy's arch villain FlatTop, why not James Bond's arch villain Blofeld... or the modern equivilent?

    Actually, Pacino played Al "Big Boy" Caprice, so no prize for you! Anyway, I wonder if this is how rumors get started. . .in my original post I said that Pacino would be playing "the 'Blofeld' of the group," meaning the head of the organization; yet a few people have turned this into Pacino playing Blofeld! Curioser and curioser!
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,993Quartermasters
    edited February 2008
    I hope this is true, if only for the 'outrage factor,' which will be a blast to observe.

    If there actually were a group of people dedicated to being negative about the current Bond Regime---which of course there isn't!!! :p ---such a group might just have a collective stroke at the notion of Pacino swaggering around and shouting "Woooohaaaah, Mister Bond! I'm just gettin' warmed up!!!" :))

    For the record, I think he can do it...and have it be a very low-key 'classic' Bond film moment. Like Claude Rains in Casablanca, "I will take what comes" ;)

    Therefore, I think this one is a classic example of "Too good to be true."
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  • bluemanblueman PDXPosts: 1,667MI6 Agent
    I can see Pacino as the big heavy. Nice bit of casting if true. And hope he's really really Blofeld. :007)
  • 72897289 Beau DesertPosts: 1,691MI6 Agent
    Sorry, didn't read the "spoilers" trying hard to have some "wow" left by the time I see the actual film.

    AL would be a interesting bit of casting, hopefully he would be in a "Godfather II" mode and not "Scarface". But unless Bond is going to show up and grab his escape submarine with a crane, this casting seems very unlikely.

    For this to work AP would have to return in the next film .... unless he would agree to a Anthony Dawson gig and just do brief snippets until he his finally revealed and defeated in Bond 24.

    The producers have been acting pretty smart of late, and maybe the above could work, just so long as AP's charecter doesn't morph into Dr. Evil.
  • a rogue AIa rogue AI Posts: 128MI6 Agent
    I'm afraid that unless EON confirms he's part of the cast, us geeks will still cling to the hope that he'll make an appearance, uncredited or not. Nothing we can do about that... besides waiting until November.

    As for his casting, what can I say? It's true his one of the very finest actors alive today, but it's also true he's lately become notorious for participating in films just to collect the paycheck. If he's cast in Qos, I hope the latter won't happen.


    Regarding the spoiler tags - are they necessary at this point? These are *Ain't it cool* rumours for one and could there be someone who goes this November to watch this movie and somehow not know of a casting like the one we are discussing?
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