Short blockbusters

I'm putting this in the QoS thread as it relates to its short running time, a cause of some apprehension, not withstanding the similar duration of Goldfinger.

Men in Black was only 96 minutes.

Any other classics with a surprisingly brief running time?
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,742MI6 Agent
    edited October 2008
    Well, not classics, but there's been a few recent films which are so short that I'm not sure they even qualify as films: Rambo and Cloverfield spring to mind. If you can only just make it over the hour mark you need to do a bit more writing...

    Better than the horrible trend for long films, though- Dark Knight, Pirates and friends need to find that mid point.
  • AlexAlex The Eastern SeaboardPosts: 2,694MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    Better than the horrible trend for long films, though
    Infinitely better as far as I'm concerned. 96 minutes is a perfect length.

    There are classics, older films, that are just slightly over the hour mark. Usually horror, probably not in the secret agent genre. 99% of the time I prefer their running time. The only exception is Bond and today's historical fiction. With those two, I become very greedy.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,308MI6 Agent
    The 39 Steps - 86 minutes! {[]
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,308MI6 Agent
    Debbie Does Dallas - 80 minutes! {[] {[] :D
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • SeahawkSeahawk Posts: 85MI6 Agent
    The 1933 King Kong ran to 104 minutes in its long version. Peter Jackson's 2005 remake ran to 187 minutes in its short version.
    Though the latter has its moments, I definitely favour the original.
  • Agent WadeAgent Wade Ann ArborPosts: 321MI6 Agent
    X-Men ran 104 minutes.
  • murikmurik Posts: 10MI6 Agent
    I for one am not minding the running time, running time is only an issue if the film can't fill it, The Dark Knight was long, but had an epic scope that made fantastic use of that time. Films such as Superman Returns and the Pirates sequels suffer, because there was too much overbloated moments and dragging moments. Likewise shorter running times is never a problem if handled correctly, both A History Of Violence and Men In Black are good examples, whereas Syriana (fantastic) suffers of having too short a run time, so some characters and plotlines feel undeveloped. It's a hard balance to get right.
    As a writer (i.e: unemployed and jobbing scripts around) the first rule of thumb other wirters have stated is that it's better if your script is shorter than normal, this means you:
    a: will have a streamlined plot that runs through and ties up at the end.
    b: if need be, have room for manaevouer to character develop and so forth.

    Still counting down the days now!!!
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    The problem isn't length but how it's used -- modern popcorn movies tend to be dialogue poor and posing/action scene rich, so a lot of time that could be spent on character and story is wasted.

    Older popcorn movies tend to be the opposite, and if you watch movies of, say, the 1940s, you'll hear the actors talking about twice as fast as they do today -- hence, a 90-minute movie from that era can seem far richer than a 120-minute movie from today, and certainly more than most 90-minute movies today. Since movies today often use a minimalist approach to character development -- a bit of trivia in dialogue or a close up of an expression to stand in for actually witnessing onscreen character growth -- the problem is compounded.

    I believe Casino Royale needed another 10 minutes to flesh out Vesper's character and make the romance more believable. As it was, I understood they fell in love, but I didn't feel it all that much. I would have cut some of the superfluous moments if time was immutable -- I didn't need to see Craig come out of the sea twice, for instance, and while the action sequences were strong, trimming down the director's and producer's cameos would have been okay with me. So, I'm a little concerned with keeping Quantum of Solace under two hours -- my guess is that this really has much more to do with getting in more screenings and trailer/commercials each day than an artistic choice.
  • arthur pringlearthur pringle SpacePosts: 366MI6 Agent
    The original RoboCop film by Paul Verhoeven was 103 minutes long.
  • FitzochrisFitzochris Posts: 242MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    I believe Casino Royale needed another 10 minutes to flesh out Vesper's character and make the romance more believable. As it was, I understood they fell in love, but I didn't feel it all that much.

    That would be my only criticism of CR. Some of the earlier set pieces could have been trimmed down, in my opinion, to make way for more Bond/Vesper development. The building site chase was far too long and I felt the Miami airport scene was a little overcooked too.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,308MI6 Agent
    True, but while this is verging off topic, I'd have had Bond meet Vesper earlier, very briefly, in the film, maybe when he meets M or something. A flash of antipathy; that way when they meet on the train there's something to build on.

    To me, CR was a bit like Dark Knight in that sense, it's a three-part or more serial crammed into a single movie. In a serial on tv, there's a week or more between meetings, so naturally it feels like you've known the character far longer because you have, even if the screen time is not hugely different. It was hard to get to grips with a new Bat love interest (new as in new actress) and it is a bit crammed.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • FitzochrisFitzochris Posts: 242MI6 Agent
    Bat love

    Surely that's illegal.
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