I could see him pulling off the Bond of Fleming's timeline very well. However, I don't think the mainstream audience of Bond could take such a dramatic redirection
They are cheap, but why not? Seeing as Craig has got great reviews, what would they have had to gain by going with Jackman instead? What's more, Craig is different to the other Bonds, whereas everyone kind of knows how Jackman would have played out. I wouldn't care for Jackman's British accent either going by Van Helphin or whatever it was called.
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."
Roger Moore 1927-2017
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That was like a commerical but they forgot to advertise the product.
No. Just no Jude Law for Bond. No matter what he does he's too soft for Bond; I'd laugh if this guy's face if he threatened me. However I will admit looking at this did convince me he'd be a good Harry Palmer.
Just wondered, legally you can do fan fiction writing for Bond, what about fan fiction youtube clips? Or does that cross a line? Otherwise you could get some kind of filmed Bond thing in period in the future, not done by the usual team.
the cost of filming a period Bond would be huge,given the current financial climate I'd say that It will never happen,Sill hope that some day a good aldult cartoon series of the novels could be made but this too i think will never happen, I also don't think J Law would not make a good Bond,Just my Opinion.
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Just wondered, legally you can do fan fiction writing for Bond, what about fan fiction youtube clips? Or does that cross a line? Otherwise you could get some kind of filmed Bond thing in period in the future, not done by the usual team.
You would definetly have to have EON's permission. The only way you wouldn't is if it was non-profit and I doubt anyone would flip the bill and expect nothing in return. However if you were to make a film, place it online, and then ask for donations then that is a different matter.
The idea of a retro style alternate Bond character is a good one, say in the Victorian era, or during the height of the Second World War, but I agree with Darenhat.
Bond himself is a character of danger, sex and the high life in the present. Each film reflects the style and look of the time period in which they were made. Anything post the fifites would be a solid retread of the existing, classic films. Even CR is there already, with its Post push button slab but pre IPhone mob / cell phones and the news online webpage. (Pre the Youtube and Iplayer / Replay interfaces we have now). The new skyfleet airliner though fictional, locks down the then media buzz of the Airbus A380 too. I miss Concorde!
Sorry SilentSpy, I am glad CR was done in the "present" timeframe. I am 35 now, I consider CR to be my version of From Russia, or Goldfinger. Those classics are films of my Grandad's generation. Brilliant films as they are, they are the Bond films that inspired my Grandparents. CR as it is, inspired me in the same way.
As to Mr Craig? He wants to continue to play Bond. I hope he gets the chance to, because he is brilliant in the role when the character is written well. I can see him doing two more films, if things get sorted out sooner, rather than later. In the meantime, he is getting the most critical thing any and all actors need - the promise of regular work!
I wouldn't put Casino Royale in with any of the great Connery films. I didn't grow up with Connery as Bond either but I think of him as Bond. He is still the guy to beat. Daniel Craig has Bond moments throughout Casino Royale but doesn't fully become Bond until the end. Which is why Quantum is such a major disappointment to me. As the film is pretty much a standard action film. Connery is Bond from the moment we meet him in Dr. No.
Maybe retro is the wrong word to use. Probably "period" Bond would be better. People were saying flat out that they couldn't do a period Bond film. I think because they didn't want to or were scared at how difficult it might be. However, now that Mad Men (TV show) is a success, people think differently.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I think Bond should always flow with the times. I personally believe the 60s is the best decade for the character (best looking women, classiest villains, most menacing plots, appropriate sense of humor, fashion and music), but who knows, maybe 2010-2020 will be perfect for the character.
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I may just, though I will say that because I teach English for a living, finding time to read for pleasure isn't as easy as it sounds. Still, it's great to see someone following through on a dream.
If they were to reboot the series...again, it would be great to see a retro 60's James Bond. However, there would be temptation to remake the novel/movie adaptations. Also, I don't think they can afford to reboot the series anytime soon, since it was just done. The reboot was meant to connect to a new audience to keep the interest going for the next generation. For the most part, going back to a retro scenario would lose that new connection.
"I think he got the point."
"Governments change. The lies stay the same."
"They say you're judged by the strength of your enemies."
I would have preferred a period Casino Royale over the contemporary version they came up with. Specifically, the late 1950s when the cold war was hotly fought by spies on both sides. I'd open up and expand on the book a little, but it wouldn't be as big a production as the one we got. I'd tell the story in under two hours. A completely different script that emphasizes the strategy of gambling and the bittersweet romance between Bond and Vesper starting at the outset. Faithful to the book. More daring in the love scenes and more bloody in the violence. It would be less expensive, not more, because it would be bottled up, as they say. About the size and scope of FRWL, with a similar mood and atmosphere. Lots of card table ambiance and formal wear.
Would the fans accept a period Bond?
Yes, if the action were done as well as in a contemporary setting.
If the film is good, they'll accept it.
Richard
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
I see what Loeffs is saying about Mad Men, in which case of course the old 'Man Talk!' phrase could be out of Mad Men, but with a different veneer ie shock that you can say that stuff. But then it gets close to that 0SS-117 spoof (have you seen that yet Loeffs?) and of course there's no real suspense when it's set in the 1950s in that it's all history in a way. What works for Mad Men might seem a bit one-note.
The producers are really unsure about just doing a good film, Richard W. I don't think they really know how to do it and just rely on slam it action scenes dotted throughout the film to be sure, as a failsafe.
I see what Loeffs is saying about Mad Men, in which case of course the old 'Man Talk!' phrase could be out of Mad Men, but with a different veneer ie shock that you can say that stuff. But then it gets close to that 0SS-117 spoof (have you seen that yet Loeffs?) and of course there's no real suspense when it's set in the 1950s in that it's all history in a way. What works for Mad Men might seem a bit one-note.
Nobody is suggesting they go the Madman route. I've seen the BBC and Thames Television produce truly exceptional period pieces for television that have a contemporary outlook.
What about The Good Shepard (2006)? There's period espionage for you. Suspense and action and fine drama. There's no end of period action films.
You might want to watch Poodle Springs (1998), a Philip Marlow private eye adaptation starring James Caan that's set in 1962, for an example of how to do a period genre film right. Also, the period espionage features Eye of the Needle (1981) and Enigma (2000). Another one that comes to mind is Lassiter (circa 1984) with Tom Selleck.
The producers are really unsure about just doing a good film, Richard W. I don't think they really know how to do it and just rely on slam it action scenes dotted throughout the film to be sure, as a failsafe.
That's a very interesting statement, and a true one. I'm surprised you posted it here.
Richard
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
I hope you jest.
Jack Black as Oddjob is exactly the sort of thing we want to avoid.
We want to avoid Jack Black on general principle.
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
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Roger Moore 1927-2017
~ Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
That was like a commerical but they forgot to advertise the product.
No. Just no Jude Law for Bond. No matter what he does he's too soft for Bond; I'd laugh if this guy's face if he threatened me. However I will admit looking at this did convince me he'd be a good Harry Palmer.
I did watch it and found it laughable. My Accountant is more scary than him. Law just cannot do tough, fey yes, but tough no.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
You would definetly have to have EON's permission. The only way you wouldn't is if it was non-profit and I doubt anyone would flip the bill and expect nothing in return. However if you were to make a film, place it online, and then ask for donations then that is a different matter.
Thanks Gassy! Sure hope you check it out...I need to get the hell out of my day job
Great to hear from you. Hope you'll stick around {[]
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
"Governments change. The lies stay the same."
"They say you're judged by the strength of your enemies."
Would the fans accept a period Bond?
Yes, if the action were done as well as in a contemporary setting.
If the film is good, they'll accept it.
Richard
The producers are really unsure about just doing a good film, Richard W. I don't think they really know how to do it and just rely on slam it action scenes dotted throughout the film to be sure, as a failsafe.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Nobody is suggesting they go the Madman route. I've seen the BBC and Thames Television produce truly exceptional period pieces for television that have a contemporary outlook.
What about The Good Shepard (2006)? There's period espionage for you. Suspense and action and fine drama. There's no end of period action films.
You might want to watch Poodle Springs (1998), a Philip Marlow private eye adaptation starring James Caan that's set in 1962, for an example of how to do a period genre film right. Also, the period espionage features Eye of the Needle (1981) and Enigma (2000). Another one that comes to mind is Lassiter (circa 1984) with Tom Selleck.
That's a very interesting statement, and a true one. I'm surprised you posted it here.
Richard
Jack Black as Oddjob!
Jack Black as Oddjob is exactly the sort of thing we want to avoid.
We want to avoid Jack Black on general principle.
French "Bond" comedy OSS 117 set in 1960's
Could work as well with retro Bond in 50's period.
Yes i was joking, stop taking things so seriously you fanboy morons.
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oh if only Jon Hamm were Brit he'd be perfect retro Bond