My DC trilogy timeline.
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There seems to be a lot of debate about how much time passed during and between CR, QOS and SF. Some fans don't seem to realize there was a dossier for Daniel Craig's Bond that was released when CR came out. I've put together a timeline that makes sense to me. This is just for the Craig stuff - fitting in all the Bonds obviously won't make sense.
The dossier's at http://tinyurl.com/bxe3cqy, by the way.
Okay. So Bond was born on April 13, 1968. During the opening scene of CR, he's not a 00 yet since he doesn't have two kills. Since there's a shitload of snow around, I'm gonna say it's deep winter and put this event at January 2008 making Bond 39. I don't currently have CR available so I can't double-check but I believe that during the scene in the Bahamas where Bond is going over the security footage, the date might say 2006. It's best to ignore that or say that the software hadn't been updated. That's the only way to get a coherent timeline together for the series.
Now. Bond kills Dryden in January. Let's say he gets promoted some time during the spring, right after he turns 40. Then he goes to Madagascar with that other agent to pursue the bomb-maker (opening scene of CR). This should take place roughly in the beginning of the summer of 2008. Then CR happens.
I'm not exactly sure how long it took Bond to heal and how long he was able to hang out with Vesper after recovering but we should put that at least to a couple of weeks and it would make sense for Vesper to die at roughly July 2008.
We should now say it takes Bond at least a few weeks to find Mr. White because Mathis was being tortured and it would take a little bit of time for them to stop torturing him, then offer him the villa and then for him to actually move in there with the woman.
QoS would take place around August 2008 because I'm pretty sure there was an exact date on the Greene Planet invite. I can't check right now, don't have QoS available either but I remember a discussion about it so maybe someone can confirm. Bond is still 40.
The part that messes with itself is the fact that QoS ends in the winter. It is possible for a ton of snow like that to fall down during October, or maybe even at the end of September because, hey, it's Russia and possibly a different universe. So the final scene of QoS is September-October 2008, Bond still 40, a bit rough around the edges but already smoothing out.
Then comes Skyfall. Now, because Craig is gonna do a few more movies, it would make sense for me to put the opening scene of SF at about 2013-2014. I remember someone talking about some helicopters that were shown in SF that aren't currently functional? If that's true it would make sense to set it a few years in the future.
So let's say Bond is 46, been around the block and still doing field work. Then he gets shot and starts "enjoying death". Since Eve is still on temporary leave from the field when Bond returns, I can't imagine he was dead for longer than a year, so I'd set the events of Skyfall during the fall of 2015, Bond now 47, recovered, back to work.
This way, if Craig makes two more Bonds (which might be back-to-back according to the rumors), this Bond would be about 50 when he ends his service, doing a strong 10-year stretch as a 00.
So to recap:
April 1968 - Bond is born.
January 2008 - Bond kills Dryden.
May 2008 - Bond gets promoted to 00.
Summer of 2008 - Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace.
Fall of 2008 - Hunting down the boyfriend, end of QoS.
Summer/Fall of 2014 - Opening of SF.
Fall of 2015 - Rest of SF.
Good?
The dossier's at http://tinyurl.com/bxe3cqy, by the way.
Okay. So Bond was born on April 13, 1968. During the opening scene of CR, he's not a 00 yet since he doesn't have two kills. Since there's a shitload of snow around, I'm gonna say it's deep winter and put this event at January 2008 making Bond 39. I don't currently have CR available so I can't double-check but I believe that during the scene in the Bahamas where Bond is going over the security footage, the date might say 2006. It's best to ignore that or say that the software hadn't been updated. That's the only way to get a coherent timeline together for the series.
Now. Bond kills Dryden in January. Let's say he gets promoted some time during the spring, right after he turns 40. Then he goes to Madagascar with that other agent to pursue the bomb-maker (opening scene of CR). This should take place roughly in the beginning of the summer of 2008. Then CR happens.
I'm not exactly sure how long it took Bond to heal and how long he was able to hang out with Vesper after recovering but we should put that at least to a couple of weeks and it would make sense for Vesper to die at roughly July 2008.
We should now say it takes Bond at least a few weeks to find Mr. White because Mathis was being tortured and it would take a little bit of time for them to stop torturing him, then offer him the villa and then for him to actually move in there with the woman.
QoS would take place around August 2008 because I'm pretty sure there was an exact date on the Greene Planet invite. I can't check right now, don't have QoS available either but I remember a discussion about it so maybe someone can confirm. Bond is still 40.
The part that messes with itself is the fact that QoS ends in the winter. It is possible for a ton of snow like that to fall down during October, or maybe even at the end of September because, hey, it's Russia and possibly a different universe. So the final scene of QoS is September-October 2008, Bond still 40, a bit rough around the edges but already smoothing out.
Then comes Skyfall. Now, because Craig is gonna do a few more movies, it would make sense for me to put the opening scene of SF at about 2013-2014. I remember someone talking about some helicopters that were shown in SF that aren't currently functional? If that's true it would make sense to set it a few years in the future.
So let's say Bond is 46, been around the block and still doing field work. Then he gets shot and starts "enjoying death". Since Eve is still on temporary leave from the field when Bond returns, I can't imagine he was dead for longer than a year, so I'd set the events of Skyfall during the fall of 2015, Bond now 47, recovered, back to work.
This way, if Craig makes two more Bonds (which might be back-to-back according to the rumors), this Bond would be about 50 when he ends his service, doing a strong 10-year stretch as a 00.
So to recap:
April 1968 - Bond is born.
January 2008 - Bond kills Dryden.
May 2008 - Bond gets promoted to 00.
Summer of 2008 - Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace.
Fall of 2008 - Hunting down the boyfriend, end of QoS.
Summer/Fall of 2014 - Opening of SF.
Fall of 2015 - Rest of SF.
Good?
Comments
But no one seems to care. Guess I'm late in figuring it all out?
“It reads better than it lives.” T. Case
malory says to M the drive was lost 3 months ago,,, when he 1st sees her to tell her shes getting the push, so it would be right to asume that bond was enjoying death, for 3 months,
and she wouldnt sell his flat, and get everything into storage within 3 weeks,
You're right. The cameras read July 2006 whereas Vesper's phone at the end of the film read 4th Aug 2006. The video game of QOS also has the events of QOS take place five months after Bond chases the bomb maker.
Bond's passport from CR shows his date of birth etc.
For me CR happens in 2006, given the One&Only surveillance disc dated July 6, 2006 and Vesper's message to Bond dated 4th of August 2006, like pointed out earlier. OK, so PTS of QoS is direct continuation to end of the CR, which indicates it would also happen in the same year and i would like to think that rest of the movie takes place in the same year as well, although there's a "goof" which for us eagle eyed viewers is the date on Green Planet invitation - 23rd of August 2008.
As for Skyfall, for me it happens in 2012. There's no dates mentioned, except that Bond's being enjoying death for about 3 months, enough time for his superiors to assume that 007 was KIA and so on.
When Bond is back in the service in London, we are able to see vehicle tax disc which is dated 2012
TIS - "The moment you think you got it figured - you're wrong"
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2006 Casino Royale
2008 The very end of CR where JB 007 shoots Mr. White which leads straight into...
2008 Question of Sport (QoS)
2011/12 Skyfall opening. Bond shot. BANG! Cut to "six month ago you lost the hard drive..."
2012 Skyfall
Actually, I think this timeline works the best.
No it doesn't, Skyfall must be 2014-15 as that is the in service date of the three Wildcat helicopters in the island scene.
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Yes and are we supposed to believe that Bond goes from newly promoted, young 00 in 2006, to possibly too old, struggling to keep up 00 of SF, in six years? If so, Bond is aging badly!
I think more time elapses between Bond confronting Yusef and the start of SF, with many successes for Bond and SIS in the meantime.
Bond is ALWAYS set in the year of its release.
You say in 6 years is too short a time to be a newly promoted 00 to struggling 00,
1. Think about footballers and even fashion models. Very short career. That's why the get pay so much. Plus being a 00 is a tough job!
2. In CR Bond even says 00'd have a very short life expectancy.
3. At the start of Skyfall Bond is in his prime. It's only because he's shot that he starts to 'enjoy death' and has to retrain.
4. The helicopter idea doesn't work as in Goldeneye the Eurovopter wasn't supposed to be in service till 2005. So are you saying Goldeneye is set in 2005? No clearly it's set in 1995.
5. Actually I will modify my timeline. The black white opening sequence could be set months before the main bulk of CR so it could actually be 2005!
Why are you so adamant at placing CR at 2008 instead of 2006? (disregarding the actual year of release and security camera that says 2006)
Bond at 46...that would be Roger Moore in LALD.
At some point, perhaps Bond 24, EON is gonna have to make the jump from Prequel to Present. Otherwise, they've dug themselves into a hole.
Much easier to follow was Die Another Day where Q gives him a new watch and says, "Your 20th, I believe"
PS-Interesting note about the Wildcat helicopters.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
The Tigre in Goldeneye was one of the prototypes and portrayed as such in the movie being demonstrated to NATO in a sales pitch so not an operational airframe so yes 1995.
The Wildcats are not operational but were shown as such ,to me this makes it two or three yrs in the future and with the new M the next movie will be back in real time .
I still believe Skyfall is set mostly set 2012, but whatever year it's set in it's still a great film.
Now, how long it takes Bond to locate Mr White after he finds the telephone number on Vesper's phone is another matter... If it ook 2 years, the whole 2006-2008 timeline would make sense, but I just can't believe it would take that long.
Quantum were supposed to be a little known organisation.
1968-Bond born
2006 Jan-First two kills
2006 June/July-Embassy, then One & Only (video tape confirm)
2006 August-Venice (Vesper's Phone)
2008-Last scene of CR, the QOS (Green Planet invite Aug 08, car tags)
2012-August?, Bond Killed
2012-November?-list lost 3 months, Bond resurrected (confirm by car registration)
2013-January-Skyfall blown up (not many frozen ponds in Scotland earlier than Jan?)
2013-February-Final scene of Skyfall
I do think the car used in Skyfall is the Dimitrios car with BIG modifications by Q branch.
On the helicopter theory making Skyfall 2014, look at the Bin Laden raid, those choppers were not supposed to exist either.
On 6 years not being a long time to become a tired agent, 2006 was a year BEFORE Barack Obama announced as a candidate for President of the US. I think it is plenty of time for a 00 to get beat up a little.
What do you think?
Quantum of Solace takes place immediately after Casino Royale so both are in 2006. Six years can feel like an eternity being in the field. Plenty of time for many adventures we didn't see. You also forget Bond had a lengthy career in the Navy which he joined at 19 (lied about his age to get in) before getting the rank of Commander.
Now, you have a 44 year James Bond, whose been shot twice, on the verge of getting a desk job, but of course he's going to keep going. :007)