superadoRegent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,652MI6 Agent
Appropriately worded thread, since it's expected that the new car smell will significantly influence people's favorites. With the rankings on this thread, I'm curious if there are any discernable patterns among the different age groups of fans? I would actually place SF at par with those so-so films of the other Bond actors, like DAF, OP and TWINE. Maybe it's just me, but I enjoyed QoS much, much more than SF and I mention that because QoS seems unloved by many fans.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
I certainly believe that "SKYFALL" is inferior to "QUANTUM OF SOLACE".
She's usually under something
And why insult someone for preferring "QoS" over "SF"? Why do people do that? Insult someone who doesn't share their opinions in something like a movie? Why? 8-)
As you can see, the only 'popular' opinions of mine seem to be SF and DN.... The newest bond film and the oldest bond film.
It's hard for me to rank my top 4 with SF, as I enjoy RM films differently for different reasons. But I think that's where SF ranks anyway...
Do you think you should bump FYEO higher, Jarvio?
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
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I certainly believe that "SKYFALL" is inferior to "QUANTUM OF SOLACE".
She's usually under something
And why insult someone for preferring "QoS" over "SF"? Why do people do that? Insult someone who doesn't share their opinions in something like a movie? Why? 8-)
No idea....no idea at all...I prefer QoS to SF too....so what's your point ?
As you can see, the only 'popular' opinions of mine seem to be SF and DN.... The newest bond film and the oldest bond film.
It's hard for me to rank my top 4 with SF, as I enjoy RM films differently for different reasons. But I think that's where SF ranks anyway...
Do you think you should bump FYEO higher, Jarvio?
The top 5 are all very close tbh. I agree that FYEO is a great film
As you can see, the only 'popular' opinions of mine seem to be SF and DN.... The newest bond film and the oldest bond film.
It's hard for me to rank my top 4 with SF, as I enjoy RM films differently for different reasons. But I think that's where SF ranks anyway...
Great list!
Just saw OP AGAIN last night, a perfect Bond movie in my opinion (not a very influential one!)
As you can see, the only 'popular' opinions of mine seem to be SF and DN.... The newest bond film and the oldest bond film.
It's hard for me to rank my top 4 with SF, as I enjoy RM films differently for different reasons. But I think that's where SF ranks anyway...
Can't see too much wrong with that list actually Jarvio.
hard to rank the new ones in with the old ones. Especially since they "rebooted" the series.
If I absolutely had to rank Skyfall, I would place it near my Bottom 5 ahead of only DAD, TB, DAF, and TMWTGG.
Here's my short list of what prevented Skyfall from being great:
1. He was shot TWICE in the PTS. The memorable being the one fired by moneypenny. However, it was the first, almost forgotten, shot from the badguy that ended up being a prominent part of the film. And why didn't Bond simply duck because he could hear M giving to order to fire? Not even Bond could survive those trips over the waterfalls after being hit by a high powered rifle.
2. Gun Barrel sequence at the end of the film? c'mon don't break tradition! That annoyed me probably more than it should have.
3. The plot of exposing Mi6 agents was dropped completely in favor of a personal vendetta against M which was HIGHLY reminiscent of TWINE.
4. During M's court scene why didn't they evacuate when she got word that Silva had escaped? Instead she starts rambling on about poety as if she's stalling for time? Sure enough, Silva bursts in and many innocent people die in the shooting.
5. Lack of a Bond girl. We almost had one but she was killed off rather quickly. Bond's failure to save her was disappointing.
6. The entire Skyfall ranch climax reminded me of a Home Alone style stand off. The old codger in the house was out of place in a Bond film. He reminded me of a western sidekick for John Wayne. And since when does Bond run from the enemy ? Usually Bond is activity trying to put a STOP to the villian's nefarious scheme. With Bond in hiding, Silva could have resumed his terrorist activities and exposing agents.
7. I'm having a hard time with the continuity of the Daniel Craig 007. If Casino Royale was his first mission, QoS was a direct continuation, then Skyfall must be the 3rd mission right? But where did he get the Aston Martin DB5 from Goldfinger? Whatever happened to the DB5 he won in CR ?
8. Yet another reboot! Meanwhile, Daniel Craig is labeled as over the hill and encouraged to retire! Mixed messages here!
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the film and proudly took home my iMax poster.
Last month I was bored in a hotel room and luckily found QoS on TV. Perhaps it was my bleak situation, but I found it surprisingly good...much better than I remembered in the cinema.
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
I certainly believe that "SKYFALL" is inferior to "QUANTUM OF SOLACE".
She's usually under something
And why insult someone for preferring "QoS" over "SF"? Why do people do that? Insult someone who doesn't share their opinions in something like a movie? Why? 8-)
Just ajb banter....these retrobates love to take the p*ss....and sometimes they're actually funny :v )
She's worth whatever chaos she brings to the table and you know it. ~ Mark Anthony
I'd rank TLD ahead of TB if not for the regrettable scene with Bond and the girl sliding down the mountain on a cello case. The producers just couldn't help themselves.
This is a very good post, and a lot of what you said had occured to me, I particularly did not like him failing the tests, and looking past it, and surely if they had a good plan, they would have lured Silva up there but had sufficient back up hiding around the corner, I also for the life of me fail to see where M got wounded.
That said it was well made beautifully shot, and although out of context and beyond the bounds of plausibility I enjoyed the nods and winks to the history of Bond. and because I like all things Bond they could have pretty much served up any drivel and I would have loved it
hard to rank the new ones in with the old ones. Especially since they "rebooted" the series.
If I absolutely had to rank Skyfall, I would place it near my Bottom 5 ahead of only DAD, TB, DAF, and TMWTGG.
Here's my short list of what prevented Skyfall from being great:
1. He was shot TWICE in the PTS. The memorable being the one fired by moneypenny. However, it was the first, almost forgotten, shot from the badguy that ended up being a prominent part of the film. And why didn't Bond simply duck because he could hear M giving to order to fire? Not even Bond could survive those trips over the waterfalls after being hit by a high powered rifle.
2. Gun Barrel sequence at the end of the film? c'mon don't break tradition! That annoyed me probably more than it should have.
3. The plot of exposing Mi6 agents was dropped completely in favor of a personal vendetta against M which was HIGHLY reminiscent of TWINE.
4. During M's court scene why didn't they evacuate when she got word that Silva had escaped? Instead she starts rambling on about poety as if she's stalling for time? Sure enough, Silva bursts in and many innocent people die in the shooting.
5. Lack of a Bond girl. We almost had one but she was killed off rather quickly. Bond's failure to save her was disappointing.
6. The entire Skyfall ranch climax reminded me of a Home Alone style stand off. The old codger in the house was out of place in a Bond film. He reminded me of a western sidekick for John Wayne. And since when does Bond run from the enemy ? Usually Bond is activity trying to put a STOP to the villian's nefarious scheme. With Bond in hiding, Silva could have resumed his terrorist activities and exposing agents.
7. I'm having a hard time with the continuity of the Daniel Craig 007. If Casino Royale was his first mission, QoS was a direct continuation, then Skyfall must be the 3rd mission right? But where did he get the Aston Martin DB5 from Goldfinger? Whatever happened to the DB5 he won in CR ?
8. Yet another reboot! Meanwhile, Daniel Craig is labeled as over the hill and encouraged to retire! Mixed messages here!
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the film and proudly took home my iMax poster.
Last month I was bored in a hotel room and luckily found QoS on TV. Perhaps it was my bleak situation, but I found it surprisingly good...much better than I remembered in the cinema.
Though I take issue with Firemass over his branding of Bond's 'seduction' of Pussy Galore as 'rape' I totally agree with him about OHMSS and SF, right on the money...
I have no idea where SF will ultimately fall on my list, I would think somewhere in the top ten. However, I liked CR when I saw it the first time, but the more I watched it the less I liked it, so you never know. SF will be Craig’s highest rated Bond flick for me, QOS is the lowest ranking Craig film, ranking at the bottom of my Bond film list.
This is a very good post, and a lot of what you said had occured to me, I particularly did not like him failing the tests,
I didn't mind him failing the tests due to his injuries, but I did dislike the implications that he's 'too old' in his third movie. In Casino Royale it was implied that he was too *young* to be promoted to 00 status, and Quantum of Solace took place literally immediately after CR.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
I'd have to say number 2 after OHMSS! -{ But QoS and CR are also in my Top 5. They'd have to be as a Fleming Purist, wouldn't they!
Not necessarily , depending on how one Fleming purist defines the standard for what is "Fleming." Even if we were to remove the physical characteristics of Bond from the equation for the sake of discussion, I would appreciate knowing exactly how DC (or for the matter, Dalton and any of the others) captures the most immediate identiable characteristics of James Bond on the written page.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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I certainly believe that "SKYFALL" is inferior to "QUANTUM OF SOLACE".
And why insult someone for preferring "QoS" over "SF"? Why do people do that? Insult someone who doesn't share their opinions in something like a movie? Why? 8-)
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
No idea....no idea at all...I prefer QoS to SF too....so what's your point ?
The top 5 are all very close tbh. I agree that FYEO is a great film
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Great list!
Just saw OP AGAIN last night, a perfect Bond movie in my opinion (not a very influential one!)
Can't see too much wrong with that list actually Jarvio.
Mine, however, would be:
1. FRWL
2. LTK
3. CR
4. LALD
5. SF
6. TLD
7. FYEO
8. OHMMS
AVTAK and DN are quite high up my all time list too. Not a massive fan of OP though I've got to be honest
FYEO
SF
TLD
CR
OP
QOS
LTK
TSWLM
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
If I absolutely had to rank Skyfall, I would place it near my Bottom 5 ahead of only DAD, TB, DAF, and TMWTGG.
Here's my short list of what prevented Skyfall from being great:
1. He was shot TWICE in the PTS. The memorable being the one fired by moneypenny. However, it was the first, almost forgotten, shot from the badguy that ended up being a prominent part of the film. And why didn't Bond simply duck because he could hear M giving to order to fire? Not even Bond could survive those trips over the waterfalls after being hit by a high powered rifle.
2. Gun Barrel sequence at the end of the film? c'mon don't break tradition! That annoyed me probably more than it should have.
3. The plot of exposing Mi6 agents was dropped completely in favor of a personal vendetta against M which was HIGHLY reminiscent of TWINE.
4. During M's court scene why didn't they evacuate when she got word that Silva had escaped? Instead she starts rambling on about poety as if she's stalling for time? Sure enough, Silva bursts in and many innocent people die in the shooting.
5. Lack of a Bond girl. We almost had one but she was killed off rather quickly. Bond's failure to save her was disappointing.
6. The entire Skyfall ranch climax reminded me of a Home Alone style stand off. The old codger in the house was out of place in a Bond film. He reminded me of a western sidekick for John Wayne. And since when does Bond run from the enemy ? Usually Bond is activity trying to put a STOP to the villian's nefarious scheme. With Bond in hiding, Silva could have resumed his terrorist activities and exposing agents.
7. I'm having a hard time with the continuity of the Daniel Craig 007. If Casino Royale was his first mission, QoS was a direct continuation, then Skyfall must be the 3rd mission right? But where did he get the Aston Martin DB5 from Goldfinger? Whatever happened to the DB5 he won in CR ?
8. Yet another reboot! Meanwhile, Daniel Craig is labeled as over the hill and encouraged to retire! Mixed messages here!
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the film and proudly took home my iMax poster.
Last month I was bored in a hotel room and luckily found QoS on TV. Perhaps it was my bleak situation, but I found it surprisingly good...much better than I remembered in the cinema.
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
1 TLD
2 FRWL
3. OHMSS
4. ….
If we are talking DC:
1. SF/ CR equal
2. QOS
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Hilarious 8-)
And yes....under QoS...I just liked the story more....forgive me ;%
Just ajb banter....these retrobates love to take the p*ss....and sometimes they're actually funny :v
SF
OHMSS
GF
FRWL
DN
TB
TLD
I'd rank TLD ahead of TB if not for the regrettable scene with Bond and the girl sliding down the mountain on a cello case. The producers just couldn't help themselves.
That said it was well made beautifully shot, and although out of context and beyond the bounds of plausibility I enjoyed the nods and winks to the history of Bond. and because I like all things Bond they could have pretty much served up any drivel and I would have loved it
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/skyfall-censored-china-bond_n_2495528.html
I just love DC as 007 :x
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
I didn't mind him failing the tests due to his injuries, but I did dislike the implications that he's 'too old' in his third movie. In Casino Royale it was implied that he was too *young* to be promoted to 00 status, and Quantum of Solace took place literally immediately after CR.
I'd wish he'd grow on me :v
Has he grown on you?
1. GoldenEye 2. Goldfinger 3. Skyfall 4. OHMSS 5. TWINE
Not necessarily