Although I think Seiko have been supplanted a bit at the lower end of the market you can actually get higher quality Chinese watches for that price with higher end Seiko movements, sapphire crystals, ceramic bezels etc. But you have to dig a bit.
Don’t start throwing bottles at me but what’s the general consensus on Fillipo Loretti and Vincero watches?
Not buying, just seeking opinions.
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I saw a Filipo Loretti advert on Youtube which looked interesting, so had a look into the brand. The things I read on watch forums were mostly negative, with plenty of people saying they had ordered watches that never arrived and that the 'Italian' image of the brand is all false, that they're based in Lithuania. Some people suggested it's just an out-and-out scam. This is just what I read; I have no personal experience of the company. I have also seen a Youtube advert for Vincero watches but have not looked into them.
Ok due to input on another thread I kind of got my modding mojo back. For years I liked the QOS LE but 45mm just don’t fit my wrist on a bracelet (Omega cocked that one up given Bond wore a 42mm throughout the film). For a while I have been thinking about slightly modifying my 42mm PO LM LE. Thanks to a purchase last year it dawned on my I could see what it would look like because I have a spare bezel.
Why mod you may ask? Well while I love the LM bezel there is just something about the original bezel that makes it pop out so much more (brighter ring on a darker black bezel). But I do love the blue lum and red seamaster and I have the original 2500 anyway.
Thoughts on the look?
Cheers :007)
Before
With mod (using old bezel I has overplayed yes I know pip is missing but I would buy a new bezel anyway)
And side by side shot (with)
And a side by side shot without
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
Modified version looks great, but I'm biased as I've always thought the original PO design, especially the 42mm, is the perfect Seamaster. Omega should not have messed with it so much over the last 14 years.
Thanks guys, I know the purists will be having a fit, but I have a habit of creating the watch Omega never sold.
Have to say it’s really growing on me
Cheers :007)
P.S Given I have given up on my designs for the NTTD Seamaster I have decided to go for my next love the 41mm Omega Seamaster Professional 2220.80, so if anyone has one they may want to sell pm me - thanks!
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
For years I had two Brosnan watches. One was a restoration vault watch (I posted about that back in 2018) and the other was for wearing. I'd been reluctant to buy the CR SMP; did I want three watches that basically look identical? Because, in pictures, the differences don't jump out. But I saw a deal on Ebay, jumped, and got one for just shy of $1600.
Once it was in-hand the CR SMP became my favorite watch. The Brosnan SMP300 felt dull and lifeless by comparison. A surprising thing to say considering how much I love the Brosnan SMP. But those applied indices and logo are beautiful and eye catching.
Congrats, Bond44. I suspect you're going to love that watch for a long time.
For years I had two Brosnan watches. One was a restoration vault watch (I posted about that back in 2018) and the other was for wearing. I'd been reluctant to buy the CR SMP; did I want three watches that basically look identical? Because, in pictures, the differences don't jump out. But I saw a deal on Ebay, jumped, and got one for just shy of $1600.
Once it was in-hand the CR SMP became my favorite watch. The Brosnan SMP300 felt dull and lifeless by comparison. A surprising thing to say considering how much I love the Brosnan SMP. But those applied indices and logo are beautiful and eye catching.
Congrats, Bond44. I suspect you're going to love that watch for a long time.
I was in exactly the same position old SMP vs new felt I could not justify two so similar, but the points you make about the 2220.80 version were the main driving factor for me (plus my good lady had the newer version). You make a good point about the Brosnan version when comparing the two - the applied induces and touch of colour make all the difference in the flesh as it were.
Having put my NTTD SM designs on hold, one came up for the right price and I went for it - what the hell.
It does need some work and probably a service at some point but all in good time.
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
For folks who have the CS Planet Ocean, or got the matching market rubber straps. Do you need curved spring bars for these to fit? If so, could someone please point me where to get curved spring bars with the proper thickness.
Also, I'm curious if anyone tried the same rubber straps on the SPECTRE Seamaster
For folks who have the CS Planet Ocean, or got the matching market rubber straps. Do you need curved spring bars for these to fit? If so, could someone please point me where to get curved spring bars with the proper thickness.
Also, I'm curious if anyone tried the same rubber straps on the SPECTRE Seamaster
Cheers!
I use the normal spring bars from the bracelet when fitting my OEM rubber on my PO 2500
Never tried it on the Spectre 300 aesthetically I am not sure it would work or look right to be honest
Cheers :007)
My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!
For folks who have the CS Planet Ocean, or got the matching market rubber straps. Do you need curved spring bars for these to fit? If so, could someone please point me where to get curved spring bars with the proper thickness.
Also, I'm curious if anyone tried the same rubber straps on the SPECTRE Seamaster
Cheers!
I use the normal spring bars from the bracelet when fitting my OEM rubber on my PO 2500
Never tried it on the Spectre 300 aesthetically I am not sure it would work or look right to be honest
Cheers :007)
Thanks! yeah the straight lugs on the Spectre might not work well with CS PO rubber strap but I was curios if someone already tried.
Hit the jackpot deal on ebay with this one with Strapcode oyster bracelet included. Loving it from the start! I think I will call this one the "Redford".
Yes, very nice. £6450 for the Submariner. £7300 for the Submariner Date and £7650 for the Green Bezel Submariner Date. But sadly, likely to be unobtainable.
Makes the NTTD Seamaster look very expensive!
I see a substancial Rolex price hike for the UK coming soon - just like Omega and Patek are doing.
It is irrelevant. Rolex don’t sell any of their watches.
They have also substantially increased the price with the introduction of the new models. The 114060 is listed as £5750 for example.
The GMT Master II is up from £7150 > £7750.
As predicted, the Omega prices have increased today. The NTTD Seamaster is now £7880 )
They have also substantially increased the price with the introduction of the new models. The 114060 is listed as £5750 for example.
The 124060 is EUR 7.350,— here, which converts to GBP 6.550 today, so you see what a bargain you guys have right now and Rolex will adjust that soon - just like others are doing today.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I am a bit disappointed as in the recent years, Rolex violated the "Rolex never goes back" rule.
By leaving the Supercase behind, they kind of admit that it was a mistake back then.
My main gripe with the Maxicase always was, that the bracelet was too narrow.
Making the bracelet wider (just like they've done now) would have meant making the lugs thinner, so I have accepted it.
And that's what Rolex have exactly done now and from this generation on we'll see many watches again, with thin lugs because people can't stop having their watches polished.
From what I see now, the 41mm watches have the beautiful Maxihands but with longer legs, something that I don't enjoy.
The green bezel I still find unnecessary on a toolwatch (which Rolex is not anymore unfortunately) but they look off to me.
How the new movements perform has to be found out over the next decade - I am hearing that they had issues with excessive grinding wear at the beginning - I hope that they've solved that.
My AD refuses to take orders for both, the Sub and the Sub Date LV because the backordered clients will get the new model offered.
I've ordered the incredibly beautiful OP36 with the yellow/orange dial instead - it will look phantastic on a leather strap I am sure!
I've always loved the blue SUb Date in whitegold because of the bold color on the dial - it went a bit mousey now with the blue bezel and the blue dial. Seems that Rolex chose the safe alley instead of having a bold statement here!
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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I saw a Filipo Loretti advert on Youtube which looked interesting, so had a look into the brand. The things I read on watch forums were mostly negative, with plenty of people saying they had ordered watches that never arrived and that the 'Italian' image of the brand is all false, that they're based in Lithuania. Some people suggested it's just an out-and-out scam. This is just what I read; I have no personal experience of the company. I have also seen a Youtube advert for Vincero watches but have not looked into them.
Why mod you may ask? Well while I love the LM bezel there is just something about the original bezel that makes it pop out so much more (brighter ring on a darker black bezel). But I do love the blue lum and red seamaster and I have the original 2500 anyway.
Thoughts on the look?
Cheers :007)
Before
With mod (using old bezel I has overplayed yes I know pip is missing but I would buy a new bezel anyway)
And side by side shot (with)
And a side by side shot without
Have to say it’s really growing on me
Cheers :007)
P.S Given I have given up on my designs for the NTTD Seamaster I have decided to go for my next love the 41mm Omega Seamaster Professional 2220.80, so if anyone has one they may want to sell pm me - thanks!
Cheers :007)
Definitely grey - here's mine -
Needs a little TLC but will soon have it like new
Cheers :007)
My first ever luxury watch purchase on the left (back in the 90”s)
And now we have his and hers versions!
Once it was in-hand the CR SMP became my favorite watch. The Brosnan SMP300 felt dull and lifeless by comparison. A surprising thing to say considering how much I love the Brosnan SMP. But those applied indices and logo are beautiful and eye catching.
Congrats, Bond44. I suspect you're going to love that watch for a long time.
Having put my NTTD SM designs on hold, one came up for the right price and I went for it - what the hell.
It does need some work and probably a service at some point but all in good time.
Cheers :007)
Also, I'm curious if anyone tried the same rubber straps on the SPECTRE Seamaster
Cheers!
Never tried it on the Spectre 300 aesthetically I am not sure it would work or look right to be honest
Cheers :007)
Thanks! yeah the straight lugs on the Spectre might not work well with CS PO rubber strap but I was curios if someone already tried.
Hulk replaced with new Kemit by looks of it
And the MSRP of the no date is cheaper than the NTTD Seamaster.
Not that I’ll be able to get one any time soon. Kind of hard to cozy up to an AD when you live hundreds of miles from the nearest store.
Makes the NTTD Seamaster look very expensive!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
It is irrelevant. Rolex don’t sell any of their watches.
They have also substantially increased the price with the introduction of the new models. The 114060 is listed as £5750 for example.
The GMT Master II is up from £7150 > £7750.
As predicted, the Omega prices have increased today. The NTTD Seamaster is now £7880
The 124060 is EUR 7.350,— here, which converts to GBP 6.550 today, so you see what a bargain you guys have right now and Rolex will adjust that soon - just like others are doing today.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Sub ND def looks more balanced in a subtle way but dont like the idea of it being marginally bigger
The White Gold Blue one looks like a knockoff in the real pics - what a hideous blue
By leaving the Supercase behind, they kind of admit that it was a mistake back then.
My main gripe with the Maxicase always was, that the bracelet was too narrow.
Making the bracelet wider (just like they've done now) would have meant making the lugs thinner, so I have accepted it.
And that's what Rolex have exactly done now and from this generation on we'll see many watches again, with thin lugs because people can't stop having their watches polished.
From what I see now, the 41mm watches have the beautiful Maxihands but with longer legs, something that I don't enjoy.
The green bezel I still find unnecessary on a toolwatch (which Rolex is not anymore unfortunately) but they look off to me.
How the new movements perform has to be found out over the next decade - I am hearing that they had issues with excessive grinding wear at the beginning - I hope that they've solved that.
My AD refuses to take orders for both, the Sub and the Sub Date LV because the backordered clients will get the new model offered.
I've ordered the incredibly beautiful OP36 with the yellow/orange dial instead - it will look phantastic on a leather strap I am sure!
I've always loved the blue SUb Date in whitegold because of the bold color on the dial - it went a bit mousey now with the blue bezel and the blue dial. Seems that Rolex chose the safe alley instead of having a bold statement here!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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