By any rational definition, MR wins hands down, but of course in terms of a film obeying its own rules, it sort of succeeds. I personally can suspend disbelief, whereas in other, more credible films, there are moments when they break their own rules more flagrantly.
None of the Bond films are realistic, so for me the relevant question is whether each film makes sense in terms of its own fantasy world and its own aesthetic grammar. On that basis, some of the most outlandishly fantastic movies in the series, such as YOLT, are more convincing than some of the grittier, more 'realistic' ones, such as QOS.
some of the most outlandishly fantastic movies in the series, such as YOLT, are more convincing than some of the grittier, more 'realistic' ones, such as QOS.
Yes, interesting. Internal logic is important. Movies instantly construct their own worlds, and so called 'realism' is more or less merely a touchstone.
I would say that Moonraker makes more sense than Man Of Steel by this reckoning.
Remember the one where James Bond was trying to stop the bad guy from doing criminal stuff and the bad guy's henchmen were trying to keep James Bond from thwarting the bad guy's plans, and then James Bond sneaked into the bad guy's big, giant hideout and blew it up, and then escaped with the girl, and then M and Q were looking for James Bond and when they found him he was off somewhere making out with the girl? I think that's the most unrealistic Bond movie!
Many Bond plots are somewhat unrealistic, isn't that what they are supposed to be though? They have situations in them which don't happen IRL. They are a form of escapism and i enjoy it.
Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"
Many Bond plots are somewhat unrealistic, isn't that what they are supposed to be though?
I always thought so...
They have situations in them which don't happen IRL. They are a form of escapism and i enjoy it.
Some parts of Roger's movies crossed the line into near parody, likewise, some parts of Dan's films have crossed the line into faux-gritty reality.
IMO DN, OHMSS & TLD need to be the templates for the Bond 'Verse. Excess within control, as it were. -{
DAD. Invisible cars, surfing tsunamis, rays cutting countries in half, Madonna as fencing instructor, none of this can happen in real life... In general, Brosnan era had the most unrealistic everything: stunts, plots, Bond girls, guns, cars,...did I mention the stunts?
Which Bond film do you feel demands the highest degree of suspension of disbelief? )
Taking the question totally literally, there is only one candidate for that prize and I'm surprised no-one has mentioned it so far.
Casino Royale, 1967.
It's funny you should mention CR 67. It was actually my first "Bond" ever. As a kid in the early 80s I had heard of this "James Bond" character, and CR 67 was on TV. I remember not liking it one bit. Thankfully, a few years later I saw my first couple of real Bond movies, OP and AVTAK. Now that I think about it, it was a good thing that I saw CR 67 first thinking it was the real thing. Moore movies appeared dead serious in comparison.
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The molecules can be force-joined and then filtered out with acids; it's not impossible, just extremely difficult. I have a doctorate in Treknobabble, and I see no problem in this. B-)
Cocaine that can be processed into petrol to avoid customs and back again sorry NO
Yes, I've always wondered about the validity of this one myself and I suspect that the "bonus" of the gasoline would be all you would be left with really! ) And the irony that Licence to Kill is largely grounded in realism is not lost on me, either.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Yes, I've always wondered about the validity of this one myself and I suspect that the "bonus" of the gasoline would be all you would be left with really! ) And the irony that Licence to Kill is largely grounded in realism is not lost on me, either.
Look, they're not gonna put in a film like that a REAL way to smuggle coke. You just have to say to yourself it's a stand-in for a process that's better off not being publicised, like when they show you a lock being picked without ACTUALLY showing how it's done for real...
I've never looked into it. But I'd say it's one of those little scientific
Bits, that " work" on paper or in small quantities in the lab, but
Probably wouldn't be economical in large quantities, or just
Wouldn't work in real life. ) either way, if it's possible then it
WILL work in movies.
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Yes, I've always wondered about the validity of this one myself and I suspect that the "bonus" of the gasoline would be all you would be left with really! ) And the irony that Licence to Kill is largely grounded in realism is not lost on me, either.
Look, they're not gonna put in a film like that a REAL way to smuggle coke. You just have to say to yourself it's a stand-in for a process that's better off not being publicised, like when they show you a lock being picked without ACTUALLY showing how it's done for real...
Yes, you're right there of course - it never entered my tiny mind! )
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
I think if you were to get a really, REALLY large sheet of filter paper from a coffee percolator, and an even bigger funnel, that would be the best way to do it...
I think if you were to get a really, REALLY large sheet of filter paper from a coffee percolator, and an even bigger funnel, that would be the best way to do it...
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I would say that Moonraker makes more sense than Man Of Steel by this reckoning.
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IMO DN, OHMSS & TLD need to be the templates for the Bond 'Verse. Excess within control, as it were. -{
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It's funny you should mention CR 67. It was actually my first "Bond" ever. As a kid in the early 80s I had heard of this "James Bond" character, and CR 67 was on TV. I remember not liking it one bit. Thankfully, a few years later I saw my first couple of real Bond movies, OP and AVTAK. Now that I think about it, it was a good thing that I saw CR 67 first thinking it was the real thing. Moore movies appeared dead serious in comparison.
Cocaine that can be processed into petrol to avoid customs and back again sorry NO
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James Bond- Licence To Kill
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Yes, I've always wondered about the validity of this one myself and I suspect that the "bonus" of the gasoline would be all you would be left with really!
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Bits, that " work" on paper or in small quantities in the lab, but
Probably wouldn't be economical in large quantities, or just
Wouldn't work in real life.
WILL work in movies.
Yes, you're right there of course - it never entered my tiny mind!
Yes it is a Bond film ! THINK BIG !!!!
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