Wow, I'm utterly amazed that anyone answered with ANYthing other than Moonraker. I mean...guys...c'mon...it's MOONRAKER. It's the movie where a pigeon does a double take and a blonde girl in pigtails joins an assassin in flying to outer space and witness the entire world be destroyed (after knowing him for precisely 12 hours).
Well, some suspension of disbelief is necessary for Bond films (for Brosnan's tons of it). Would you like MR more if the pigeon was not there?
Just go back to when you first saw it. Did you have fun or not? Because for me MR was the most fun I had from 70s films. Plus, the PTS is one of my favourites (if not my favourite).
Wow, I'm utterly amazed that anyone answered with ANYthing other than Moonraker. I mean...guys...c'mon...it's MOONRAKER. It's the movie where a pigeon does a double take and a blonde girl in pigtails joins an assassin in flying to outer space and witness the entire world be destroyed (after knowing him for precisely 12 hours).
Well, some suspension of disbelief is necessary for Bond films (for Brosnan's tons of it). Would you like MR more if the pigeon was not there?
Just go back to when you first saw it. Did you have fun or not? Because for me MR was the most fun I had from 70s films. Plus, the PTS is one of my favourites (if not my favourite).
I actually groaned at Jaws flapping his arms in the PTS because I had a feeling we were in another rather silly Bond film. Things looked rather promising for a while, but it wasn't long before I found out how right I was.
Wow, I'm utterly amazed that anyone answered with ANYthing other than Moonraker. I mean...guys...c'mon...it's MOONRAKER. It's the movie where a pigeon does a double take and a blonde girl in pigtails joins an assassin in flying to outer space and witness the entire world be destroyed (after knowing him for precisely 12 hours).
Still miles better than Diamonds Are Forever. Remember Bond's arch nemesis, that killed his wife in the movie before OHMSS? Yeah.. he is in DRAG in DAF.. enough said!
Wow, I'm utterly amazed that anyone answered with ANYthing other than Moonraker. I mean...guys...c'mon...it's MOONRAKER. It's the movie where a pigeon does a double take and a blonde girl in pigtails joins an assassin in flying to outer space and witness the entire world be destroyed (after knowing him for precisely 12 hours).
Well, some suspension of disbelief is necessary for Bond films (for Brosnan's tons of it). Would you like MR more if the pigeon was not there?
Just go back to when you first saw it. Did you have fun or not? Because for me MR was the most fun I had from 70s films. Plus, the PTS is one of my favourites (if not my favourite).
Well put! -{ It's a great PTS, although I don't think it really needed Jaws. Brilliant freefall nevertheless. Puts the one in Quantum of Solace to shame!
"The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette..." -- Ian Fleming, Moonraker
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
Wow, I'm utterly amazed that anyone answered with ANYthing other than Moonraker. I mean...guys...c'mon...it's MOONRAKER. It's the movie where a pigeon does a double take and a blonde girl in pigtails joins an assassin in flying to outer space and witness the entire world be destroyed (after knowing him for precisely 12 hours).
Well, some suspension of disbelief is necessary for Bond films (for Brosnan's tons of it). Would you like MR more if the pigeon was not there?
Just go back to when you first saw it. Did you have fun or not? Because for me MR was the most fun I had from 70s films. Plus, the PTS is one of my favourites (if not my favourite).
I actually groaned at Jaws flapping his arms in the PTS because I had a feeling we were in another rather silly Bond film. Things looked rather promising for a while, but it wasn't long before I found out how right I was.
Yes, and Jaws in love was silly, and the Magnificent Seven theme (similar to TSWLM and Lawrence of Arabia, and the fish when the Lotus comes out of the water in the beach, and nothing sillier than JW Pepper in Thailand really). But boy, that PTS grabbed me, Moore was at his very best (still not looking too old), Jaws before he's in love is, well, Jaws. And there are great scenes: "you missed Mr.Bond" "Did I?". The pace is breathless (much more so than TSWLM). Not the best film ever, but IMO most fun to watch (definitely better than DAF,
Wow, I'm utterly amazed that anyone answered with ANYthing other than Moonraker. I mean...guys...c'mon...it's MOONRAKER. It's the movie where a pigeon does a double take and a blonde girl in pigtails joins an assassin in flying to outer space and witness the entire world be destroyed (after knowing him for precisely 12 hours).
Still miles better than Diamonds Are Forever. Remember Bond's arch nemesis, that killed his wife in the movie before OHMSS? Yeah.. he is in DRAG in DAF.. enough said!
I think the creative collaboration of Guy Hamilton and Tom Mankiewicz is the low point of the series, and of the three they made together Live and Let Die is the weakest. Their is no Bond film that I won't watch, but I generally only watch Live and Let Die when I am watching the series fromstart to finish.
I like about 95% of Moonraker. I think trimming about 7-10 minutes would turn it into one of Moore's best outings.
Hey Guys. Sorry I haven't posted since my Dalton post last Saturday. I have been away on vacation but I am back now to offer my half cent. First off, there is no doubt that even though Connery is actually younger than Roger Moore, that he looked much older than Moore's LALD Bond in DAF. Also I would agree that he looked more out of shape in DAF than Roger did in AVTAK. With that being said, I don't absolutely hate DAF like some of You. It isn't the greatest, but there is a certain charm to it's campiness not unlike many of Roger's films. I am not biased here at all because I love Connery and Moore (Yes folks, it is possible lol), so I will say that TMWTGG is by far the worst Bond movie of the 70's.
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Hey Guys. Sorry I haven't posted since my Dalton post last Saturday. I have been away on vacation but I am back now to offer my half cent. First off, there is no doubt that even though Connery is actually younger than Roger Moore, that he looked much older than Moore's LALD Bond in DAF. Also I would agree that he looked more out of shape in DAF than Roger did in AVTAK. With that being said, I don't absolutely hate DAF like some of You. It isn't the greatest, but there is a certain charm to it's campiness not unlike many of Roger's films. I am not biased here at all because I love Connery and Moore (Yes folks, it is possible lol), so I will say that TMWTGG is by far the worst Bond movie of the 70's.
Although I slightly prefer Golden Gun to Diamonds Are Forever, I'd accept either film as the "worst" entry of the 70's. Both films suffer from broken plotting and over-reliance on obnoxious gags, although Golden Gun ruined a perfectly good stunt (AMC Hornet corkscrew) and left the franchise in a dismal state of affairs.
"The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette..." -- Ian Fleming, Moonraker
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
I'm loving the discussions here, and disagreements. And can I just say how wonderful it is to see a group of people on an internet forum heatedly disagreeing about something without resorting to name-calling, rudeness, and general obnoxiousness? That is so very rare, which is a shame.
But I'm still utterly shocked that anyone in his or her right mind could possibly defend Moonraker. Two minutes into the movie and it's already stupid - WHY IS JAWS ON THE PLANE?!?! (Still one of the best stunt sequences in the series, but imagine how much more effective it would be if Jaws weren't in it!)
Only my opinion but for me it's either Golden Gun or Moonraker.
I prefer MR simply because of the fantastic cinematography, the
Fact it looks BIG ( what going to the cinema is for ) ) . Sure it has
Some God awful bits ( face palm, moments ) 8-) but Golden Gun
Looks kind of like a TV movie in places and a few face palm moments
Too. ) like going to save Bond, then driving off, without him. 8-) )
As for name calling, I usually charge a little extra for that but dressing up
In uniform is fine. )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
So calling someone out of their right mind when they like a movie that you don't is a good way to start )
I've told my Moonraker story a couple of times on this forum so I won't do that again but for me (as an 8 years old boy around 1991) it was the start of my love for Bond. It doesn't rank in my top 10, maybe not even in my top 15, but for nostalgic reasons I really can't think of it as the worst Bond movie of the 70's or (a some of you) of the last 5 decades.
But I'm still utterly shocked that anyone in his or her right mind could possibly defend Moonraker. Two minutes into the movie and it's already stupid - WHY IS JAWS ON THE PLANE?!?! (Still one of the best stunt sequences in the series, but imagine how much more effective it would be if Jaws weren't in it!)
Moonraker might be silly as hell, but it's a competently made silly-as-hell movie. Minus Richard Maibaum, it's essentially the same crew that brought us The Spy Who Loved Me, only this time they decided to forego restraint in favour of grand-scale ambition. Sure there have been far better Bond movies than Moonraker, but none quite as ambitious or genuine. Contrast Moonraker with more incompetent, poorly-plotted films like Diamonds Are Forever or The Man With The Golden Gun. Or even Die Another Day, which smacks of laziness and garish CGI. So while Moonraker falls short of a higher standard, bearing little-to-no resemblance to the Ian Fleming novel, I still have great respect for the film and I think that more people should.
"The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette..." -- Ian Fleming, Moonraker
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
. So while Moonraker falls short of a higher standard, bearing little-to-no resemblance to the Ian Fleming novel, I still have great respect for the film and I think that more people should.
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I just say how wonderful it is to see a group of people on an internet forum heatedly disagreeing about something without resorting to name-calling, rudeness, and general obnoxiousness? That is so very rare, which is a shame.
You've started so well and then where name-calling right after:
I'm still utterly shocked that anyone in his or her right mind could possibly defend Moonraker.
As for Moonraker, pleople forget that shortly before, Star Wars came up and was a massive success. The Space Shuttle was not operational and regular service to space was not existing.
The last (Apollo) mission to space was 1972 - 7 years before.
After the massive success of TSWLM, it had to be bigger - and boy it was!
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
MR was one of the very first Bonds I saw on ITV -{ So it holds many Nostalgic Memories for me.
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DAF would have to be my least favourite Bond film in the 1970s and while of course not without merit it is very lame and silly in places. MR I have always loved and always will, even though I am a Fleming purist at heart. So get your head around that one! 8-) )
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Sometimes you just can't explain why you like something " The Heart wants, what the heart wants " )
I think that it's just that most Bond fans can clearly differentiate between book Bond on the one hand and film Bond on the other and can appreciate the respective merits (and demerits) of each of them separately!
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
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Also Moonraker is great. Just throwing that out there...
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
Well, some suspension of disbelief is necessary for Bond films (for Brosnan's tons of it). Would you like MR more if the pigeon was not there?
Just go back to when you first saw it. Did you have fun or not? Because for me MR was the most fun I had from 70s films. Plus, the PTS is one of my favourites (if not my favourite).
I actually groaned at Jaws flapping his arms in the PTS because I had a feeling we were in another rather silly Bond film. Things looked rather promising for a while, but it wasn't long before I found out how right I was.
Still miles better than Diamonds Are Forever. Remember Bond's arch nemesis, that killed his wife in the movie before OHMSS? Yeah.. he is in DRAG in DAF.. enough said!
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Well put! -{ It's a great PTS, although I don't think it really needed Jaws. Brilliant freefall nevertheless. Puts the one in Quantum of Solace to shame!
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
Yes, and Jaws in love was silly, and the Magnificent Seven theme (similar to TSWLM and Lawrence of Arabia, and the fish when the Lotus comes out of the water in the beach, and nothing sillier than JW Pepper in Thailand really). But boy, that PTS grabbed me, Moore was at his very best (still not looking too old), Jaws before he's in love is, well, Jaws. And there are great scenes: "you missed Mr.Bond" "Did I?". The pace is breathless (much more so than TSWLM). Not the best film ever, but IMO most fun to watch (definitely better than DAF,
Blackleiter, are you seeing this???
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Yes - unbelievable!!!!
I agree.
I like about 95% of Moonraker. I think trimming about 7-10 minutes would turn it into one of Moore's best outings.
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The first 30-45 minutes of DAF are fine. The fight in the elevator is excellent. This whole part of the movie is Connery at his brutal uncaring best.
It goes downhill when Bond goes to Vegas.
I read it back in 1979 but don't remember much about it. I recently got another copy of it and reading it is on my too do list.
Although I slightly prefer Golden Gun to Diamonds Are Forever, I'd accept either film as the "worst" entry of the 70's. Both films suffer from broken plotting and over-reliance on obnoxious gags, although Golden Gun ruined a perfectly good stunt (AMC Hornet corkscrew) and left the franchise in a dismal state of affairs.
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
But I'm still utterly shocked that anyone in his or her right mind could possibly defend Moonraker. Two minutes into the movie and it's already stupid - WHY IS JAWS ON THE PLANE?!?! (Still one of the best stunt sequences in the series, but imagine how much more effective it would be if Jaws weren't in it!)
I prefer MR simply because of the fantastic cinematography, the
Fact it looks BIG ( what going to the cinema is for )
Some God awful bits ( face palm, moments ) 8-) but Golden Gun
Looks kind of like a TV movie in places and a few face palm moments
Too.
As for name calling, I usually charge a little extra for that but dressing up
In uniform is fine.
I've told my Moonraker story a couple of times on this forum so I won't do that again but for me (as an 8 years old boy around 1991) it was the start of my love for Bond. It doesn't rank in my top 10, maybe not even in my top 15, but for nostalgic reasons I really can't think of it as the worst Bond movie of the 70's or (a some of you) of the last 5 decades.
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Moonraker might be silly as hell, but it's a competently made silly-as-hell movie. Minus Richard Maibaum, it's essentially the same crew that brought us The Spy Who Loved Me, only this time they decided to forego restraint in favour of grand-scale ambition. Sure there have been far better Bond movies than Moonraker, but none quite as ambitious or genuine. Contrast Moonraker with more incompetent, poorly-plotted films like Diamonds Are Forever or The Man With The Golden Gun. Or even Die Another Day, which smacks of laziness and garish CGI. So while Moonraker falls short of a higher standard, bearing little-to-no resemblance to the Ian Fleming novel, I still have great respect for the film and I think that more people should.
1) The Spy Who Loved Me 2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service 3) GoldenEye 4) Casino Royale 5) Goldfinger
The Comfy Chair! Ha! Take THAT!
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As for Moonraker, pleople forget that shortly before, Star Wars came up and was a massive success. The Space Shuttle was not operational and regular service to space was not existing.
The last (Apollo) mission to space was 1972 - 7 years before.
After the massive success of TSWLM, it had to be bigger - and boy it was!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I think that it's just that most Bond fans can clearly differentiate between book Bond on the one hand and film Bond on the other and can appreciate the respective merits (and demerits) of each of them separately!
Maybe it had to be bigger, but it didn't have to be dumber!
And by the way, I'd still choose MR over AVTAK any day, but we're only talking here about 70s Bond films.