Goldfinger vs. You Only Live Twice

Gassy Man

JayCobb1045 wrote:

Goldfinger is still my favorite Bond film, so it wins in my book. I agree with the posts that single out Bond turning Japanese and the loss of Aki as major minuses. I was surprised to see the OP say that the "pacing is racing" because, while I enjoy that phrasing, I disagree. I actually think that the film drags on a bit. The whole turning Japanese/wedding sequence takes way too long and brings the momentum to a halt. Additionally (I know I'm going to catch some guff on this) I even find myself saying "just get on with it" during the massive final sequence. To be fair, the film is photographed beautifully and Tiger is probably top three sidekicks of the entire series.

The wedding sequence is one of the most beautiful in the series and makes the film special in that it took the time to have it. It's one of the few Bond films that truly feels epic and like a great vacation as well.

AlphaOmegaSin

Yes, the Wedding Scene in YOLT was very well done -{

chrisisall

Comparison time.

Silly moment:
Crushing a golfball by hand/ who's filming the ocean drop that Bond watches?

Curious FX:
Auric's toy plane/laughable lava flow matte.

Did you really say that?:
"I must be dreaming."/"Mr Osato believes in a healthy chest."

That doesn't happen:
Death by paint/a piranhna kill in seconds.

Strange weapon:
Gold bar/couch.

What gave my disguise away?:
Your gold gun, General/your gaijin nose, Japanese fisherman.

Charmed & Dangerous

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Did he really say that, part two: "Don't get soap in my eye" ;% "Say goodbye Denk. Man talk".

Thunderpussy

Connery/Bond the true Alpha Male ! )

Silhouette Man

Thunderpussy wrote:

Connery/Bond the true Alpha Male ! )

...or Male Chauvinist Pig if you prefer! )

Thunderpussy

No, when my daughters point out something sexist
In a Bond, I simply reply " He's an Alpha Male !" )

AlphaOmegaSin

Your Daughters not really fond of Bond then? )

Thunderpussy

) Yes, lots of laughs from me at their reaction to the likes of
Bond slapping Dink's bum and sending her away, because it's
Man talk ! ) ... I don't know these modern girls.

AlphaOmegaSin

I know the Feeling ) The other half is the same when she watches Bond with me )

Thunderpussy

Now, if I could just get them to switch the bloody lights off
In rooms they aren't even in X-( )

chrisisall

Thunderpussy wrote:

Now, if I could just get them to switch the bloody lights off
In rooms they aren't even in X-( )

GOOD LUCK.

AlphaOmegaSin

A Mission even Bond cannot accomplish.

Charmed & Dangerous

AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

A Mission even Bond cannot accomplish.

) -{

The Leaving Daylights?

Thunderpussy

) ) )

Firemass

chrisisall wrote:

Comparison time.

That doesn't happen:
a piranhna kill in seconds.

Obviously borrowed from Kiss the Girls and Make Them Die. )

Anyway, great comparison list. You crack me up man.

Silhouette Man

Thunderpussy wrote:

Now, if I could just get them to switch the bloody lights off
In rooms they aren't even in X-( )

Or to turn off taps properly. You know it's true - women are so slack-handed! )

chrisisall

Charmed & Dangerous wrote:

The Leaving Daylights?

) ) ) ) -{

Colonel Shatner

YOLT is more entertaining and funner on hindsight for a 1960s film, though it has a uneven tone and you can sense the corporate soulessness creeping in. Goldfinger is more innovative and iconic, though more creaky and old fashioned at the same time. Honor Blackman is fantastic and saves the film she's in.

Firemass wrote:

Turning Bond Japanese and

That was taken from Ian Fleming's original book, with Fleming having a pretty aloof bordering on repulsive attitude on women and foreigners. Bond turning Japanese doesn't work and is pretty offensive (but not as offensive as Micky Rooney turning Japanese). But that's part ofwhat is uneven about YOLT, with Tiger Tanaka being this great and likable ally to the Western protagonist (only two decades after WWII) but he gets clumsily and unnecessarily overdubbed. 8-)

chrisisall

Colonel Shatner wrote:

YOLT is more entertaining and funner on hindsight for a 1960s film, though it has a uneven tone and you can sense the corporate soulessness creeping in. Goldfinger is more innovative and iconic, though more creaky and old fashioned at the same time. Honor Blackman is fantastic and saves the film she's in.

But... which do you prefer? :v

Colonel Shatner

I respect Goldfinger more, but I prefer YOLT and got in on DVD.

Also the Mastersons' murders at the hands of Oddjob were definately a blow, with gold painted Masterson the younger being partcularly bizarre, but Aki's death scene was so horribly beautiful and gave YOLT more emotional weight than it deserved.

chrisisall

Colonel Shatner wrote:

I respect Goldfinger more, but I prefer YOLT and got in on DVD.

Agreed. -{
But I got it on Blu Ray now. GF is fine on DVD.

AlphaOmegaSin

Tetsuro Tamba could not speak English well, that's why his Voice was dubbed.

Thunderpussy

I noticed over the years that even Connery has a slight accent ! )

Blackleiter

Thunderpussy wrote:

I noticed over the years that even Connery has a slight accent ! )

Wait, what???? I always thought it was a lisp! )

Thunderpussy

No, he's definitely Welsh or something.

chrisisall

Thunderpussy wrote:

No, he's definitely Welsh or something.

Getting nasty??

Thunderpussy

No, I try and stay on the side of the absurd.

chrisisall

Thunderpussy wrote:

No, I try and stay on the side of the absurd.

And you do it well. -{

More thoughts:
Why these two Bond films seem iconic to the general public-
GF is Connery's most lively, amusing and smug performance as Bond IMO. He was great in all his 60's Bonds, but this script & director really let him loose.
YOLT was the biggest a Bond movie would ever get, it kept turning up the volume until we were in over our heads, and I for one loved it.

Thunderpussy

I remember as a teen working in a local bar and when YOLT was first shown, they
had it on the big screen and it was like a football match. The place was full, and
everyone watching the film. )