Pros and Cons: You Only Live Twice

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  • blame_thatcherblame_thatcher Posts: 199MI6 Agent
    PROS:
    Excellent cinematography.
    Excellent sets.
    One of John Barry's best scores.
    Beautiful title song.
    Great Japanese scenery.
    Amusing (if not classic) villains.
    Outer space opening sequence is creepy and scary.
    Lots of funny lines.

    CONS:
    Connery is bored and lazy.
    Very little plot, not enough to sustain film.
    Dramatically inert.
    Bond's transformation into Japanese man and marriage is merely narrative padding.
    Use of badly scratched and dirty stock footage of Air Force jets in final countdown sequence.
    Bond produces climbing suction cups out of nowhere.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    " Bond produces climbing suction cups out of nowhere"
    I think Kissy had those hidden in her Bra ? :D
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Biggest B-movie ever made!
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Bondage007Bondage007 AustraliaPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    " Bond produces climbing suction cups out of nowhere"
    I think Kissy had those hidden in her Bra ? :D

    A bit like how Bond still has the poison pen in jail in OP and randomly produces the lighter to get rid of the leech lol
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Bondage007 wrote:
    " Bond produces climbing suction cups out of nowhere"
    I think Kissy had those hidden in her Bra ? :D

    A bit like how Bond still has the poison pen in jail in OP and randomly produces the lighter to get rid of the leech lol

    The lighter isn't so random. Though Roger Moore's Bond hadn't smoked in 9 years at that point, Moore still did himself and a lighter is a pretty typical thing to carry.
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  • Bondage007Bondage007 AustraliaPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Bondage007 wrote:
    " Bond produces climbing suction cups out of nowhere"
    I think Kissy had those hidden in her Bra ? :D

    A bit like how Bond still has the poison pen in jail in OP and randomly produces the lighter to get rid of the leech lol

    The lighter isn't so random. Though Roger Moore's Bond hadn't smoked in 9 years at that point, Moore still did himself and a lighter is a pretty typical thing to carry.

    But remember he had been captured by Gobinda and taken prisoner at the Monsoon Palace. So either Gobinda packed Bond's clothes (and pen) to take to the palace without checking the contents, or Bond happened to take a lighter from the Monsoon palace during his escape.
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  • CoolHandBondCoolHandBond Mactan IslandPosts: 6,213MI6 Agent
    I think the suction cups may have been given to Bond by Q in a scene omitted from the final cut - even if this was true it does seem to be a bit of a random gadget but I really don't see this as a con as I just accept these things to keep the movie flowing - if anyone is going to accept a volcano lair then some suction cups don't really matter that much :)
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  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    Bondage007 wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Bondage007 wrote:

    A bit like how Bond still has the poison pen in jail in OP and randomly produces the lighter to get rid of the leech lol

    The lighter isn't so random. Though Roger Moore's Bond hadn't smoked in 9 years at that point, Moore still did himself and a lighter is a pretty typical thing to carry.

    But remember he had been captured by Gobinda and taken prisoner at the Monsoon Palace. So either Gobinda packed Bond's clothes (and pen) to take to the palace without checking the contents, or Bond happened to take a lighter from the Monsoon palace during his escape.

    Well, it is still not as bad as the poison dart moonraker wrist gun. Bond is only wearing it in the shots that he actually uses it.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Peppermill wrote:
    Bondage007 wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    The lighter isn't so random. Though Roger Moore's Bond hadn't smoked in 9 years at that point, Moore still did himself and a lighter is a pretty typical thing to carry.

    But remember he had been captured by Gobinda and taken prisoner at the Monsoon Palace. So either Gobinda packed Bond's clothes (and pen) to take to the palace without checking the contents, or Bond happened to take a lighter from the Monsoon palace during his escape.

    Well, it is still not as bad as the poison dart moonraker wrist gun. Bond is only wearing it in the shots that he actually uses it.

    And how does Daniel Craig ever have a gun? His clothes are too tight to conceal one.
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  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,296MI6 Agent
    It's like in Fist of Fury where you don't see the nunchucks in Lee's pants until he needs them ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    It's like in Fist of Fury where you don't see the nunchucks in Lee's pants until he needs them ;)
    HAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA!!! Yes!! :))
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    On first viewing, I though Bruce was just pleased to see me ! ;) :D
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
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  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    Does anybody besides me think Connery's performance here wasn't all that bad?
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Does anybody besides me think Connery's performance here wasn't all that bad?
    He was great in it. The burn out was beginning to set in to Bond, and he displayed it well.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Bondage007Bondage007 AustraliaPosts: 371MI6 Agent
    I felt he played it best in DN and FRWL. From then on his performance was more relaxed. I loved him in Thunderball but it felt like he was just having a good time
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Does anybody besides me think Connery's performance here wasn't all that bad?

    I always thought he was great in YOLT. It's really only DAF where he seems bored.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    +1
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent
    I know it's a divisive matter, but I love the way Pleasence played Blofeld. He was part likable and part fearsome.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,990Quartermasters
    Pro: the theme song.

    Con: Bond as Japanese fisherman :s
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  • GrindelwaldGrindelwald Posts: 1,296MI6 Agent
    This gave me a chuckle :

    Blofeld has the suspicious astronaut brought to his command center. It's Bond.

    Common sense: "Well just shoot him already!"

    Blofeld: "Nah; I want to make him watch as I blow up that American ship, rub it in his face and all that."

    Common sense: "Okay, fine, whatever."

    Blofeld: "Oh crap, Bond just shot one of my henchmen with a cigarette. Now dozens of ninjas are streaming in and killing everyone."

    Common sense: "See? You've spared him for half a minute and he's already foiling your plans! SHOOT HIM ALREADY!"

    Blofeld: "Hmm... no. I'm sure my guys will totally pwn these ninjas. And I REALLY want to make Bond watch as I start World War III."

    Common sense: "Could you be any more vain?"

    Blofeld: "Oh hush. I can have a little fun on the -- ACK! My command center is falling apart because of those lousy ninjas. I better evacuate."

    Common sense: "What about Bond?"

    Blofeld: "Who?"

    Common sense: "That guy that caused all those ninjas to show up? The guy who foils your plans, like, every other week?"

    Blofeld: "Oh, him. What about him?"

    Common sense: "You can't force him to watch you take over the world if your command center is destroyed."

    Blofeld: "Uh huh..."

    Common sense:"Which was the only reason you were keeping him alive..."

    Blofeld: "Okay..."

    Common sense:"Perhaps now would be a good time to shoot him."

    Blofeld: "Hmm… no, I don't think so. Come on, Bond, let's take a walk with this useless businessman Osato and my big mute lunk of a bodyguard."

    Common sense: "What? You're going on a walk with Bond? What for?"

    Blofeld: "Because I'm escaping. Those ninjas are really kicking my guys' butts."

    Common sense: "BUT YOU HAVE NO REASON TO KEEP BOND ALIVE ANY MORE. WHY ARE YOU TAKING HIM--"

    Blofeld: "La la la la la! I can't hear you! I'm walking! Walkies walkies with Bond!"

    Common sense: "Man you are so bloody retar--"

    Blofeld: "Hey, Hans, hand me that gun. Hey look at this! I'm pointing a gun at Bond now! See, I'm going to shoot him! Here it comes!"

    Common sense: "About time! Now hurry up and do it!"

    **BLAM**

    Blofeld: "Wah ha ha! I just shot Osato! Boy, you should see the look on your face! Now come on, Mr. Bond, follow me."

    Common sense: "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!? Why didn't you shoot Bond too? Are you TRYING to fail?"

    Blofeld: "Oh get off my back. I like walking with Bond. It's fun."

    Common sense: "Wait... I get it. You've got a thing for Bond, don't you? You're planning on taking him with you to your escape pod and back to your other secret fortress, where you're going to oil him up and--"

    Blofeld: No! NO NO NO! YOU'RE WRONG! I'll prove it! See? Now I'm at my escape monorail! And now, now that there's no more ninjas to watch, no more corridors to walk down, I'm really, REALLY going to shoot Bond!

    Common sense: "Actually you aren't, because that ninja buddy of his just sunk a shuriken in your arm."

    Blofeld: "Ouch! Oh well, Bond's getting away. I guess I should have used one of those nine hundred opportunties I had in the last ten minutes and shot Bond then. But I've learned my lesson, you can rest assured! The next time I have Bond at my mercy, I'm going to shoot him on sight!"

    Common sense: "Guess what, bonehead: you're going to do the exact same thing for three more movies. And then he's going to kill you."

    Blofeld: "Boy I suck."
  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Bondage007 wrote:
    DR NO-ah wrote:

    I honestly thought for the longest time that line was on purpose to show Henderson as a bumbling fool haha...

    It's a stupid line because Henderson isn't a fool (he knew it wasn't Japan or Russia making those spaceships disappear), and no-one on production bothered to correct it

    The line was obviously not a mistake on the writer's part. Henderson saying "That was right, wasn't it?" and Bond's hesitant but gentlemanly response all proves that there was no mistake. It's a joke to the audience about Bond's iconic drink, and one that you didn't find all that amusing.

    That's the way I always interpreted it - an intentional wink to the audience, not a mistake at all.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Lady Ice wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Since the film is not at all a Fleming story, does that make it bad? It's not like they ruined a Fleming story (which is what I feel CR06 did). I don't think it is fair to judge the films based on how closely they follow Fleming's stories, since that's not the point of the films. If you think Fleming's stories are better than the other writers' stories, I think that's fair. But I don't think it's fair to judge a film for what it is not rather than what it is.

    Casino Royale did change the novel but I don't think it did so in a way that was completely untrue to the novel's spirit. They just had to make it 'bigger' and make it fit comfortably into the modern era whilst retaining a classic feel.

    Exactly! -{
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    Does anybody besides me think Connery's performance here wasn't all that bad?

    Me.
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent
    This gave me a chuckle :

    Blofeld has the suspicious astronaut brought to his command center. It's Bond.

    Common sense: "Well just shoot him already!"

    Blofeld: "Nah; I want to make him watch as I blow up that American ship, rub it in his face and all that."

    Common sense: "Okay, fine, whatever."

    Blofeld: "Oh crap, Bond just shot one of my henchmen with a cigarette. Now dozens of ninjas are streaming in and killing everyone."

    Common sense: "See? You've spared him for half a minute and he's already foiling your plans! SHOOT HIM ALREADY!"

    Blofeld: "Hmm... no. I'm sure my guys will totally pwn these ninjas. And I REALLY want to make Bond watch as I start World War III."

    Common sense: "Could you be any more vain?"

    Blofeld: "Oh hush. I can have a little fun on the -- ACK! My command center is falling apart because of those lousy ninjas. I better evacuate."

    Common sense: "What about Bond?"

    Blofeld: "Who?"

    Common sense: "That guy that caused all those ninjas to show up? The guy who foils your plans, like, every other week?"

    Blofeld: "Oh, him. What about him?"

    Common sense: "You can't force him to watch you take over the world if your command center is destroyed."

    Blofeld: "Uh huh..."

    Common sense:"Which was the only reason you were keeping him alive..."

    Blofeld: "Okay..."

    Common sense:"Perhaps now would be a good time to shoot him."

    Blofeld: "Hmm… no, I don't think so. Come on, Bond, let's take a walk with this useless businessman Osato and my big mute lunk of a bodyguard."

    Common sense: "What? You're going on a walk with Bond? What for?"

    Blofeld: "Because I'm escaping. Those ninjas are really kicking my guys' butts."

    Common sense: "BUT YOU HAVE NO REASON TO KEEP BOND ALIVE ANY MORE. WHY ARE YOU TAKING HIM--"

    Blofeld: "La la la la la! I can't hear you! I'm walking! Walkies walkies with Bond!"

    Common sense: "Man you are so bloody retar--"

    Blofeld: "Hey, Hans, hand me that gun. Hey look at this! I'm pointing a gun at Bond now! See, I'm going to shoot him! Here it comes!"

    Common sense: "About time! Now hurry up and do it!"

    **BLAM**

    Blofeld: "Wah ha ha! I just shot Osato! Boy, you should see the look on your face! Now come on, Mr. Bond, follow me."

    Common sense: "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!? Why didn't you shoot Bond too? Are you TRYING to fail?"

    Blofeld: "Oh get off my back. I like walking with Bond. It's fun."

    Common sense: "Wait... I get it. You've got a thing for Bond, don't you? You're planning on taking him with you to your escape pod and back to your other secret fortress, where you're going to oil him up and--"

    Blofeld: No! NO NO NO! YOU'RE WRONG! I'll prove it! See? Now I'm at my escape monorail! And now, now that there's no more ninjas to watch, no more corridors to walk down, I'm really, REALLY going to shoot Bond!

    Common sense: "Actually you aren't, because that ninja buddy of his just sunk a shuriken in your arm."

    Blofeld: "Ouch! Oh well, Bond's getting away. I guess I should have used one of those nine hundred opportunties I had in the last ten minutes and shot Bond then. But I've learned my lesson, you can rest assured! The next time I have Bond at my mercy, I'm going to shoot him on sight!"

    Common sense: "Guess what, bonehead: you're going to do the exact same thing for three more movies. And then he's going to kill you."

    Blofeld: "Boy I suck."

    :)) :)) :)) The most hilarious Bond-related piece I've read in along time. Well done!
    "Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
  • Agent PurpleAgent Purple Posts: 857MI6 Agent

    Youuuu onnnnly live twiiiiccceee
    Or soooo it seeemmmssss
    One life for yourself
    And one for your dreammmsss
    "Hostile takeovers. Shall we?"
    New 2020 ranking (for now DAF and FYEO keep their previous placements)
    1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. TSWLM 5. TWINE 6. OHMSS 7. LtK 8. TMWTGG 9. L&LD 10. YOLT 11. DAD 12. QoS 13. DN 14. GE 15. SF 16. OP 17. MR 18. AVTAK 19. TB 20. FRWL 21. CR 22. FYEO 23. DAF (SP to be included later)
    Bond actors to be re-ranked later
  • The Wicker ManThe Wicker Man EnglandPosts: 434MI6 Agent

    Youuuu onnnnly live twiiiiccceee
    Or soooo it seeemmmssss
    One life for yourself
    And one for your dreammmsss

    Well it's a fine theme tune that's for sure. -{
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  • BlackleiterBlackleiter Washington, DCPosts: 5,615MI6 Agent

    Youuuu onnnnly live twiiiiccceee
    Or soooo it seeemmmssss
    One life for yourself
    And one for your dreammmsss

    Well it's a fine theme tune that's for sure. -{

    One of the very best! {[]
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    It could have been a classic ..... If they'd got Sam Smith to sing it. :))
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