So, Why is Denbigh Called [spoiler]?

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Matt S wrote:

    Can you explain how the deleted scene explains it? I don't think anyone did.

    This may help (follow link in 6th post):
    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/792634/#p792634
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    Can you explain how the deleted scene explains it? I don't think anyone did.

    This may help (follow link in 6th post):
    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/792634/#p792634

    Thanks...saves me having to repeat Asp9mm's about cameras.... -{
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    Can you explain how the deleted scene explains it? I don't think anyone did.

    This may help (follow link in 6th post):
    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/792634/#p792634

    Thanks...saves me having to repeat Asp9mm's about cameras.... -{

    Asp9mm didn't mention the part about Bond saying that "C" stood for "Cameras". And that's not just from the deleted scene, that's from an old draft of the script. The whole thing about C being for camera still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. It would be too childish of Bond to call Denbigh "C" just because he put up cameras. "M" wouldn't call him C for camera, so it must be a real title as well, which is still not explained in the former script.
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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,906MI6 Agent
    I just assumed that CraigBond was insulting him, implying a very bad word
    that scene was a bit tense, with M being professional and diplomatic while introducing his new boss, and his employee being deliberately obnoxious (without getting disciplined for it)

    speaking of M, were John Huston's (CR67) or Edward Fox's (NSNA) characters given proper names? different universe, different rules, I know, but just curious
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Huston's M is called McTarry. Fox's M isn't named (obscure joke not be taken seriously: maybe he's Charles Calthorp).
  • Teenage MTeenage M LondonPosts: 206MI6 Agent
    C is the actual name of the head of MI6. well that is what it says on the MI6 website. :007)

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Teenage M wrote:
    C is the actual name of the head of MI6. well that is what it says on the MI6 website. :007)

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  • Teenage MTeenage M LondonPosts: 206MI6 Agent
    sorry i am new :)
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    Teenage M wrote:
    sorry i am new :)

    You should read through an entire thread (or at least the last few pages of a thread) before posting.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Bloody Teenagers ! ;) :))
    It got a laugh at the cinema, so that's all that really matters. Also helps
    to show how Bond doesn't like him. :)
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    Matt S wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Barbel wrote:

    This may help (follow link in 6th post):
    http://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/792634/#p792634

    Thanks...saves me having to repeat Asp9mm's about cameras.... -{

    Asp9mm didn't mention the part about Bond saying that "C" stood for "Cameras". And that's not just from the deleted scene, that's from an old draft of the script. The whole thing about C being for camera still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. It would be too childish of Bond to call Denbigh "C" just because he put up cameras. "M" wouldn't call him C for camera, so it must be a real title as well, which is still not explained in the former script.

    Well he did to me somewhere or other...that because of all the cameras perhaps they should call him C (see - as in seeing things with cameras)... -{

    Not sure why people obsess over this... :s
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  • agent 00agent 00 Univex Station L Netherlands Posts: 340MI6 Agent
    C. stands for Careless as M states in the CNS building to C. before he.....
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    and I think we all know what Bond thinks C stands for. ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    and I think we all know what Bond thinks C stands for. ;)

    "And we know what 'C' stands for."

    The line, delivered by M at the end when he's holding Denbigh's bullets, got quite a good laugh from the crowd. It's rather a pity it wasn't left at that, as the moment was spoilt when M added: "Careless." :v
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes every time I've seen it, It gets a big laugh. -{
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,596MI6 Agent
    and I think we all know what Bond thinks C stands for. ;)

    "And we know what 'C' stands for."

    The line, delivered by M at the end when he's holding Denbigh's bullets, got quite a good laugh from the crowd. It's rather a pity it wasn't left at that, as the moment was spoilt when M added: "Careless." :v

    I thought adding in "careless" was perfect. It was funny because it wasn't what I was expecting to hear.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    Matt S wrote:
    and I think we all know what Bond thinks C stands for. ;)

    "And we know what 'C' stands for."

    The line, delivered by M at the end when he's holding Denbigh's bullets, got quite a good laugh from the crowd. It's rather a pity it wasn't left at that, as the moment was spoilt when M added: "Careless." :v

    I thought adding in "careless" was perfect. It was funny because it wasn't what I was expecting to hear.

    I agree...I prefer keeping the "careless" line in -{
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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    I taunts liked that they added in careless. We all knew what he really meant, it's sort of like M tries to be cool with a one liner and then messes it up with a civilised and rather polite line. I don't know, without it it sounds something smug that Bond would say, M isn't supposed to be good at these sorts of things like one liners.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    "And we know what 'C' stands for."

    The line, delivered by M at the end when he's holding Denbigh's bullets, got quite a good laugh from the crowd. It's rather a pity it wasn't left at that, as the moment was spoilt when M added: "Careless." :v

    I thought adding in "careless" was perfect. It was funny because it wasn't what I was expecting to hear.

    I agree...I prefer keeping the "careless" line in -{

    It's certainly less scandalous. But it flattened out the end of the scene for me; a 'less is more' thing.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Perhaps if he'd said " Careless C...." ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,416Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    I thought adding in "careless" was perfect. It was funny because it wasn't what I was expecting to hear.

    I agree...I prefer keeping the "careless" line in -{

    It's certainly less scandalous. But it flattened out the end of the scene for me; a 'less is more' thing.

    I get that...perhaps it's a 'British' thing..?...hinting at a rude word, letting you think that...but then taking it somewhere else... :))
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    Yes, I'm sure I just didn't get it, not being British. Bit 'on the nose' for my taste.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    As already pointed out, so much conversation over the letter C. I can't
    Wait until we move on to D. :)
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,988Quartermasters
    Well, some of us Yanks will probably struggle with that one as well.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Occams' Razor. The somersaults you must go through in order to explain away the obvious is why it's a less plausible explanation.

    Afraid I see more leaps of faith in your belief that the M corresponds to the name of the person that occupies the position. It was a statement by Bond, never confirmed but for a happy coincidence. You're using circumstancial evidence as support for your theory.

    Anyway, it's a minor point, doesn't really worry me, so whatever explanation works best for you (mine does for me, so to each his/her own!).
    Seriously? The line of dialogue in Casino Royale literally says it's based on her name. On the other hand, you have no evidence whatever it simply conforms to a position.
  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Well, some of us Yanks will probably struggle with that one as well.
    We've been covering logical fallacies in my Honors course this week. I'm going to use this thread to see what they think -- I've used some before and gotten interesting results as they analyze the reasoning offered.
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