Maybe the next actor who plays Bond can have an Instagram account where he can post his OOTD (outfit of the day) with complete purchasing instructions for the more hardcore fan collectors. ) :007)
superadoRegent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,652MI6 Agent
Maybe the next actor who plays Bond can have an Instagram account where he can post his OOTD (outfit of the day) with complete purchasing instructions for the more hardcore fan collectors. ) :007)
The real, really old James Bond just read this and is doing a face-palm!
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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A return to the essence of the character of James Bond is, IMO, essential. It can (and will) be argued forever whether Craig got us closer to that (I believe he did), but there are many other simple things that could be done (which aren't era-specific, such as chain-smoking, openly misogynist, etc) to bring us closer to the man of the source material. In my belief, therein lies the key to the character's future growth, from this point moving forward, to further differentiate him from the action-hero pack.
And I can only wholeheartedly second the calls for standalone missions (once they've decided what to do with this room they've painted, where they currently occupy the last unpainted corner), with M and Moneypenny and Q keeping some distance from Bond as he does his thing. Espionage...an investigation that yields unexpected global implications...a true threat.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Maybe the next actor who plays Bond can have an Instagram account where he can post his OOTD (outfit of the day) with complete purchasing instructions for the more hardcore fan collectors. ) :007)
That would ONLY make sense if s/he includes information about what toilet paper brand s/he used that day.
A return to the essence of the character of James Bond is, IMO, essential. It can (and will) be argued forever whether Craig got us closer to that (I believe he did), but there are many other simple things that could be done (which aren't era-specific, such as chain-smoking, openly misogynist, etc) to bring us closer to the man of the source material. In my belief, therein lies the key to the character's future growth, from this point moving forward, to further differentiate him from the action-hero pack.
And I can only wholeheartedly second the calls for standalone missions (once they've decided what to do with this room they've painted, where they currently occupy the last unpainted corner), with M and Moneypenny and Q keeping some distance from Bond as he does his thing. Espionage...an investigation that yields unexpected global implications...a true threat.
I don't think there is no need for Bond to smoke, but I fully agree on everything else :007)
As was done in both Martin Campbell's introductory films for Pierce Brosnan-Goldeneye-(Archangel guard)
and for Daniel Craig - Casino Royale-drowning his first kill.
Teaser glimpses at the start would be good. Like George Lazenby lighting a cigarette in the DBS-but you don't see his face yet.
Bleuville. "it'll take more than a few props to turn 007 into a herald."
Maybe the next actor who plays Bond can have an Instagram account where he can post his OOTD (outfit of the day) with complete purchasing instructions for the more hardcore fan collectors. ) :007)
That would ONLY make sense if s/he includes information about what toilet paper brand s/he used that day.
If #25 is with a new actor, then let Blofeld rot in jail and give us a standalone adventure. If Craig returns, finish up the Blofeld arc.
No matter what, bring back David Arnold and make it a contractual obligation that the theme song artist collaborate with Arnold to some extent.
I may be in the minority.. but once Craig walks.. I wish they'd reboot it again, but back to the cold war era... Set it in the 60's..
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"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
I may be in the minority.. but once Craig walks.. I wish they'd reboot it again, but back to the cold war era... Set it in the 60's..
No!!!! It would kill the series. #KeepBondRelevant
That's what was said about casting Craig and doing the reboot. You can't really tell that that's what would happen with a retro experiment. It all depends on how that can be done and as with the reboot that was well-planned and executed, anything is possible.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
The problem with "retro" back to the cold war is that they would really be setting themselves up for failure as there would be no way those films would do anything but pale in comparison to the first four with Connery.
The problem with "retro" back to the cold war is that they would really be setting themselves up for failure as there would be no way those films would do anything but pale in comparison to the first four with Connery.
I don't think the movies would be "retro" if they were set in the past. Most movies set in the past are made like modern movies and not like movies made in the past. The OSS 117 spoofs would be an exception (and those were done really well!). That said, I think I'd prefer a "retro" Bond film that has the feel of the 60s over the typical modern period film. I'm certain I'd be in the minority on that one.
I would prefer a "soft" continuation as opposed to a "soft" reboot. Continue the Craig-era timeline with the new actor but don't harp on it. Keep Blofeld and Spectre as established in the last film, keep Fiennes, Wishaw and Harris, just don't worry too much about paying a lot of lip service to the timeline by spending too much time on the Blofeld/Bond relationship or feeling the need to bring back Madeline. Another full or even soft reboot seems strenuous, as does a hard-nosed continuation.
I would prefer a "soft" continuation as opposed to a "soft" reboot. Continue the Craig-era timeline with the new actor but don't harp on it. Keep Blofeld and Spectre as established in the last film, keep Fiennes, Wishaw and Harris, just don't worry too much about paying a lot of lip service to the timeline by spending too much time on the Blofeld/Bond relationship or feeling the need to bring back Madeline. Another full or even soft reboot seems strenuous, as does a hard-nosed continuation.
I do think that geographically, Craig's Bonds were very limiting.
I may be wrong, but he never went to the USA did he? Not the East Coast glam of New York City, nor New Orleans nor Frisco, which of course Moore did in his Bonds.
Never went to Russia, though Brozzer did this (sort of) in GE.
Nor China, nor the Middle East really.
Nor France.
Basically, it was the Adriatic in CR, Italy a bit in QoS, the UK in SF and an unconvincing Shangh-hai and back to Italy in SP. Plus a load of desert.
I suppose that works thematically, but they didn't exactly put him about much did they.
I do think that geographically, Craig's Bonds were very limiting.
I may be wrong, but he never went to the USA did he? Not the East Coast glam of New York City, nor New Orleans nor Frisco, which of course Moore did in his Bonds.
Never went to Russia, though Brozzer did this (sort of) in GE.
Nor China, nor the Middle East really.
Nor France.
Basically, it was the Adriatic in CR, Italy a bit in QoS, the UK in SF and an unconvincing Shangh-hai and back to Italy in SP. Plus a load of desert.
I suppose that works thematically, but they didn't exactly put him about much did they.
Are you talking about actual filming locations? Within the films Craig went to Miami, Kazan and Shanghai.
I still agree Craig's Bond was a bit limited in his travels.
This shows major filming locations (Britain is left out).
CR: Checkia, Italy and Bahamas
QoS: Chile, Italy, Austria
SF: Turkey, Shanghai, Italy
SPECTRE: Mexico, Austria, Marocco, Italy,
You can drive to most locations from the Med in a few hours: Turkey, Italy, Austria, Chekia, Marocco.
Italy was uesd in all four, Austria twice.
What was filmed in Italy in SF? Overhead shots in Shanghai hardly count as a major filming location in SF since no actors ever went there.
You got me there
I must have mixed up QoS and SF.
You are also right about Shanghai, but that just strenghtens my argument. Craig's Bond has been very Mediteranian/Alps based.
Here is a corrected list:
CR: Checkia, Italy and Bahamas
QoS: Chile, Italy, Austria
SF: Turkey
SPECTRE: Mexico, Austria, Marocco, Italy,
superadoRegent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,652MI6 Agent
It's a simple matter of logistics; the average number of locations per film multiplied by the number of films and with four, there's just a finite number of destinations that a Bond actor could "claim" during his tenure. Based on those averages, the number of locations outside of the UK that Craig's Bond had visited would be at par with almost any combination of four other Bond movies. Poor George Lazenby, on the other hand, has only been to two other countries outside of the UK and on a per movie Basis, Connery's Bond visited only one, Jamaica, in DN and Moore, only two, Jamaica (which kind of includes the fictional San Monique) and the USA, in LALD.
IMO, Daniel Craig had the privilege of prime destinations in his installments, including a more extensive and unprecedented foray into London. Venice, Rome and the assorted exotic locales in Italy, to me, were all icing on the cake, or is it just a case of me sharing a love for these regions with whomever the EON location scouts were? Even in what's considered the "dog" of his tenure, QoS, DC put on quite a bit of mileage, at least in the locations of the narrative if not actual locations.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
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The problem with "retro" back to the cold war is that they would really be setting themselves up for failure as there would be no way those films would do anything but pale in comparison to the first four with Connery.
I don't think the movies would be "retro" if they were set in the past. Most movies set in the past are made like modern movies and not like movies made in the past. The OSS 117 spoofs would be an exception (and those were done really well!). That said, I think I'd prefer a "retro" Bond film that has the feel of the 60s over the typical modern period film. I'm certain I'd be in the minority on that one.
I agree. I'd like to see a Bond film where the production & costume designs reflect bygone eras - specifically 60s & 70s - without the film actually being set in a specific time period.
CR also included a visit to a fantastic, non-existing, totally made up African republic. Very unusual for Bond, and in my opinion it even beats his space travel in MR.
It's a simple matter of logistics; the average number of locations per film multiplied by the number of films and with four, there's just a finite number of destinations that a Bond actor could "claim" during his tenure. Based on those averages, the number of locations outside of the UK that Craig's Bond had visited would be at par with almost any combination of four other Bond movies. Poor George Lazenby, on the other hand, has only been to two other countries outside of the UK and on a per movie Basis, Connery's Bond visited only one, Jamaica, in DN and Moore, only two, Jamaica (which kind of includes the fictional San Monique) and the USA, in LALD.
IMO, Daniel Craig had the privilege of prime destinations in his installments, including a more extensive and unprecedented foray into London. Venice, Rome and the assorted exotic locales in Italy, to me, were all icing on the cake, or is it just a case of me sharing a love for these regions with whomever the EON location scouts were? Even in what's considered the "dog" of his tenure, QoS, DC put on quite a bit of mileage, at least in the locations of the narrative if not actual locations.
I didn't comment on the number of locations in Craig's movies, but the lack of variation in all four of them in total. OHMSS is one of my favoirite Bonds, the number of locations in a single movie isn't the issuie at all.
There is nothing wrong with Craig's Bond's many locations in the Alp/Mediteranian regions as such, it just shows some lack of variation. It can be compared to his fondness of French actresses (usually brunettes) playing Bond girls. They are all very fine Bond girls, but more variation would be nice.
It's a simple matter of logistics; the average number of locations per film multiplied by the number of films and with four, there's just a finite number of destinations that a Bond actor could "claim" during his tenure. Based on those averages, the number of locations outside of the UK that Craig's Bond had visited would be at par with almost any combination of four other Bond movies. Poor George Lazenby, on the other hand, has only been to two other countries outside of the UK and on a per movie Basis, Connery's Bond visited only one, Jamaica, in DN and Moore, only two, Jamaica (which kind of includes the fictional San Monique) and the USA, in LALD.
IMO, Daniel Craig had the privilege of prime destinations in his installments, including a more extensive and unprecedented foray into London. Venice, Rome and the assorted exotic locales in Italy, to me, were all icing on the cake, or is it just a case of me sharing a love for these regions with whomever the EON location scouts were? Even in what's considered the "dog" of his tenure, QoS, DC put on quite a bit of mileage, at least in the locations of the narrative if not actual locations.
I didn't commednt on the number of locations in Craig's movies, but the lack of variation in them. OHMSS is one of my favoirite Bonds, the number of locations in a single movie isn't the issuie at all.
There is nothing wrong with Craig's Bond's many locations in the Alp/Mediteranian regions as such, it just shows some lack of variation. It can be compared to his fondness of French actresses (usually brunettes) playing Bond girls. They are all very fine Bond girls, but more variation would be nice.
I agree. Seydoux was a welcome change from the Gamine Brunettes that tend to blur after a while and have become a bit of a default position. That said Ms Bellucci was a marvel, shame she was wasted and not given enough to do. More variety, age appropriate and the odd curve would not go amiss :007) Would Christina Hendricks be too much to hope for? Hopefully they will be able to cast the net wider to include taller actresses (Turner may still present a bit of a challenge)
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I think the Craig films have had a varied selection of locations. From Caribbean type Islands, Deserts,
Mountain/Snow locations as well as London and Scotland. An Eclectic mix -{ I also have no complaints
About Craig's leading ladies.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
If you list the most different locations in Craig's movies, it looks good. But a few countries were overused, even though they were fine if seen film by film.
As stated before: the Craig Bond girls were all good, but when most of them were French brunettes there was a danger of them blurring into one in the public mind. An African, Asian (we only got one French- Vietnamese), Russian or Lebanese actress would be more interesting.
In my case, I take what I can get. Seriously, Bond in Europe gets European ladies, in S.America
He gets a S.American type lady, same in Asia etc and like Me French birds are very sophisticated.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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The real, really old James Bond just read this and is doing a face-palm!
And I can only wholeheartedly second the calls for standalone missions (once they've decided what to do with this room they've painted, where they currently occupy the last unpainted corner), with M and Moneypenny and Q keeping some distance from Bond as he does his thing. Espionage...an investigation that yields unexpected global implications...a true threat.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
That would ONLY make sense if s/he includes information about what toilet paper brand s/he used that day.
I don't think there is no need for Bond to smoke, but I fully agree on everything else :007)
As was done in both Martin Campbell's introductory films for Pierce Brosnan-Goldeneye-(Archangel guard)
and for Daniel Craig - Casino Royale-drowning his first kill.
Teaser glimpses at the start would be good. Like George Lazenby lighting a cigarette in the DBS-but you don't see his face yet.
Bleuville. "it'll take more than a few props to turn 007 into a herald."
"Hmmm, pink Andrex -north of the Caspian!"
Bleuville.
No matter what, bring back David Arnold and make it a contractual obligation that the theme song artist collaborate with Arnold to some extent.
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No!!!! It would kill the series. #KeepBondRelevant
That's what was said about casting Craig and doing the reboot. You can't really tell that that's what would happen with a retro experiment. It all depends on how that can be done and as with the reboot that was well-planned and executed, anything is possible.
I don't think the movies would be "retro" if they were set in the past. Most movies set in the past are made like modern movies and not like movies made in the past. The OSS 117 spoofs would be an exception (and those were done really well!). That said, I think I'd prefer a "retro" Bond film that has the feel of the 60s over the typical modern period film. I'm certain I'd be in the minority on that one.
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Agreed :007)
I may be wrong, but he never went to the USA did he? Not the East Coast glam of New York City, nor New Orleans nor Frisco, which of course Moore did in his Bonds.
Never went to Russia, though Brozzer did this (sort of) in GE.
Nor China, nor the Middle East really.
Nor France.
Basically, it was the Adriatic in CR, Italy a bit in QoS, the UK in SF and an unconvincing Shangh-hai and back to Italy in SP. Plus a load of desert.
I suppose that works thematically, but they didn't exactly put him about much did they.
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Are you talking about actual filming locations? Within the films Craig went to Miami, Kazan and Shanghai.
This shows major filming locations (Britain is left out).
CR: Checkia, Italy and Bahamas
QoS: Chile, Italy, Austria
SF: Turkey, Shanghai, Italy
SPECTRE: Mexico, Austria, Marocco, Italy,
You can drive to most locations from the Med in a few hours: Turkey, Italy, Austria, Chekia, Marocco.
Italy was uesd in all four, Austria twice.
What was filmed in Italy in SF? Overhead shots in Shanghai hardly count as a major filming location in SF since no actors ever went there.
You got me there
I must have mixed up QoS and SF.
You are also right about Shanghai, but that just strenghtens my argument. Craig's Bond has been very Mediteranian/Alps based.
Here is a corrected list:
CR: Checkia, Italy and Bahamas
QoS: Chile, Italy, Austria
SF: Turkey
SPECTRE: Mexico, Austria, Marocco, Italy,
IMO, Daniel Craig had the privilege of prime destinations in his installments, including a more extensive and unprecedented foray into London. Venice, Rome and the assorted exotic locales in Italy, to me, were all icing on the cake, or is it just a case of me sharing a love for these regions with whomever the EON location scouts were? Even in what's considered the "dog" of his tenure, QoS, DC put on quite a bit of mileage, at least in the locations of the narrative if not actual locations.
I agree. I'd like to see a Bond film where the production & costume designs reflect bygone eras - specifically 60s & 70s - without the film actually being set in a specific time period.
I didn't comment on the number of locations in Craig's movies, but the lack of variation in all four of them in total. OHMSS is one of my favoirite Bonds, the number of locations in a single movie isn't the issuie at all.
There is nothing wrong with Craig's Bond's many locations in the Alp/Mediteranian regions as such, it just shows some lack of variation. It can be compared to his fondness of French actresses (usually brunettes) playing Bond girls. They are all very fine Bond girls, but more variation would be nice.
I agree. Seydoux was a welcome change from the Gamine Brunettes that tend to blur after a while and have become a bit of a default position. That said Ms Bellucci was a marvel, shame she was wasted and not given enough to do. More variety, age appropriate and the odd curve would not go amiss :007) Would Christina Hendricks be too much to hope for? Hopefully they will be able to cast the net wider to include taller actresses (Turner may still present a bit of a challenge)
Mountain/Snow locations as well as London and Scotland. An Eclectic mix -{ I also have no complaints
About Craig's leading ladies.
As stated before: the Craig Bond girls were all good, but when most of them were French brunettes there was a danger of them blurring into one in the public mind. An African, Asian (we only got one French- Vietnamese), Russian or Lebanese actress would be more interesting.
In my case, I take what I can get. Seriously, Bond in Europe gets European ladies, in S.America
He gets a S.American type lady, same in Asia etc and like Me French birds are very sophisticated.