AJB live commentary on Die Another Day

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    Only sexist misogynist ones.

    (You clearly didn't get my previous paraphrase, but this one is in an even simpler vein- and there's a third)

    Edit- Higgins, it's occurred to me that the German dubs may be different so the paraphrases may be meaningless to you in which case my apologies.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2020
    Well, my joke then backfired.

    Of course I know the line undubbed, but even with a lot of interpretational liberties, I am not able to put you nearby a sexist and misogynist category.

    So, I was limiting myself to the dinosaur comment because rating a piece of music by its melody is so 60s :D

    And stop apologizing, I‘d never do this :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    True, but I'm one of the good guys.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,795MI6 Agent
    Dubbing is interesting, because the method causes some cultural barriers. I imagine people in countries with a lot of dubbing barely know how famous actors sound like. Does the German "Clint Eastwood" sound like him?
    There is also the matter of quotes, as mentioned above. My younger sister was at a language school in England. The English and Norwegian pupils had fun quoting Monthy Phyton, but the Italians had no idea what was going on even though they knew Monthy Phyton from home.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    Number24 wrote:
    Dubbing is interesting, because the method causes some cultural barriers. I imagine people in countries with a lot of dubbing barely know how famous actors sound like. Does the German "Clint Eastwood" sound like him?

    In all this excitement, I've kinda lost track.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,795MI6 Agent
    Do you feel lucky?
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,969MI6 Agent
    Mach schon, versüß mir den Tag!
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    N24- I know what you're thinking.

    Shady- :)) :)) :)) Sehr lustig!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,573Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    That's just shorthand- I may expand on how bad it is when we get to QoS. That's if we can hear it over the sound of David Arnold crying and John Barry rolling in his grave.

    Be interested to hear why you think it’s so bad, it ticks all the right boxes for me - well, I could have done without Alicia Keys, I don’t think she really adds anything...
    YNWA 97
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    Since you asked-

    The Intro:
    Best part. Catches the ear.

    The Verse:
    Then lets it go. Melody not memorable, doesn’t build. Terrible lyrics.

    The Chorus:
    Better than verse, which isn't saying much. Voices are harsh, blend poorly. Not Bondian*.

    The Turnaround:
    Not bad.

    Verse 2:
    As for Verse 1. Too many syllables, amelodic.

    Chorus 2:
    As for Chorus 1.

    The Instrumental:
    Messy. Orchestration ok, vox spoil it. Guitar starts promisingly but goes nowhere. Inclined to agree with Sam007, more of Jack White on guitar might have helped. Not cured, but helped.

    Verse 3:
    As above. Too many syllables.

    Chorus 3:
    As above.

    The Outro:
    Intro again, with vocals on top unfortunately.

    * To paraphrase Louis Armstrong- if you have to ask what "Bondian' means you'll never know (he was talking about jazz, of course). Suggested cures include listening to John Barry's Bond scores like David Arnold did before writing a note.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Just popped into my head before the rewatch, I remember reading somewhere that there’s a difference between UK and US cuts of DAD re the Bond/Jinx sex scene. It probably isn’t that much of a difference but might need a thread time check after that scene to make sure everyone’s synced correctly.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    As time reference, please use

    https://greenwichmeantime.com/

    We start the players at 19:00 GMT, get done with the ads, the settings and pause right before the gunbarrel.

    We hit play precisely at 19:10 GMT
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    2 minutes until we get the Discs out
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,573Chief of Staff
    Barbel wrote:
    Since you asked-

    The Intro:
    Best part. Catches the ear.

    The Verse:
    Then lets it go. Melody not memorable, doesn’t build. Terrible lyrics.

    The Chorus:
    Better than verse, which isn't saying much. Voices are harsh, blend poorly. Not Bondian*.

    The Turnaround:
    Not bad.

    Verse 2:
    As for Verse 1. Too many syllables, amelodic.

    Chorus 2:
    As for Chorus 1.

    The Instrumental:
    Messy. Orchestration ok, vox spoil it. Guitar starts promisingly but goes nowhere. Inclined to agree with Sam007, more of Jack White on guitar might have helped. Not cured, but helped.

    Verse 3:
    As above. Too many syllables.

    Chorus 3:
    As above.

    The Outro:
    Intro again, with vocals on top unfortunately.

    * To paraphrase Louis Armstrong- if you have to ask what "Bondian' means you'll never know (he was talking about jazz, of course). Suggested cures include listening to John Barry's Bond scores like David Arnold did before writing a note.

    Thanks.

    I always did wonder why you didn't like it :s

    It appears that apart from the verses, the chorus and the orchestration - you actually quite like it -{ :v :D
    YNWA 97
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    19:00
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    Sir Miles wrote:

    It appears that apart from the verses, the chorus and the orchestration - you actually quite like it -{ :v :D

    :)) :)) :))
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,969MI6 Agent
    Ready here. (No UA logo anymore; the MGM logo is followed directly by the gunbarrel, so I've paused at the end of the MGM logo.)
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited April 2020
    19:05

    5 minutes until we start Right in front of the gunbarrel
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,795MI6 Agent
    I'm ready :007)
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    One question:

    On my Blurays, I always have to manually browse thru a dozen of languages to turn off the subtitles.
    Is that also the case with you.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,969MI6 Agent
    Gymkata wrote:
    shoot me in the head...I can't believe I'm going to watch this again.

    haha!
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  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Good to go!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    1 minute
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,969MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    One question:

    On my Blurays, I always have to manually browse thru a dozen of languages to turn off the subtitles.
    Is that also the case with you.

    Not on my edition.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Ugh, the cg bullet...
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,969MI6 Agent
    I've just been shot!
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    Music- “On the Beach” Includes the gunbarrel music, which not all OSTs do. A bit longer on the extended version, released years later
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,324Chief of Staff
    As Austin Powers might have said, it’s amazing how the North Korean coastline looks nothing like Wales at all.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Crap backprojection shots from Brozza
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,969MI6 Agent
    It's cool how the three surfers appear in turn... suddenly there are three. (Three, like the 3 parachurists in the TLD PST)
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