what happened to that vest?

Have you guys noticed how at the end of CR Bond is wearing a vest along with his suit and then at the start of QOS it suddenly disappears.
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  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    It dissapeared into the 2006-2008 time gap and was never heard of again until it was recently spotted in a small bar just off the coast of Cuba...:s
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  • thesecretagentthesecretagent CornwallPosts: 2,151MI6 Agent
    Have you guys noticed how at the end of CR Bond is wearing a vest along with his suit and then at the start of QOS it suddenly disappears.

    I had noticed the missing waistcoat. How long was White shot, bleeding and in that Aston's boot?
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    My theory is that once Bond threw White in the trunk, that before he got into his DBS he took the vest off and just threw it in the car, or threw it in with Mr. White.
  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    Somebody else on this board said it best when he stated that they weren't even trying.

    Sorry, I forgot who... :#
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Have to agree Mr White lazy movie making,they must of known CR and QOS would be watched back to back as one movie,I'm getting the feeling the old motto of "Everthing Or Nothing" has now become "Thats Good Enough!"
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  • Shatterhand67Shatterhand67 Safe HousePosts: 424MI6 Agent
    Apparently when Bond dumped his vest he also took the time to change watches from his blue Seamaster to the 42mm Planet Ocean. Perhaps he stopped at a fine Swiss watch shop en route to deliver Mr. White to M.
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  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,726MI6 Agent
    Does this mean, that QOS was a parallel reality version of Bond, and the next film will continue the actual storyline from CR?

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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,919MI6 Agent
    It was dopey to see the film a few moments after the previous one anyway. It could just as well be a few days later, after Bond has softened White up and must now get him to M. Daniel Craig obvious aged, too, so the time issue is problematic.
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,172Quartermasters
    Yes, these are annoying little things but i still loved the PTS of Quantum of Solace. They didn't spoil the thing for me.

    However, these sorts of mistakes ought to be avoided!! X-( They can throw a lot of money at a film, but not keep continuity. As MGW said himself, QOS begins minutes after CR - Bond changed watches in that time? :s I don't think so!
  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    It doesn't spoil QOS for me either. I think it's a great movie.

    But simple things like this can be easily avoided. It annoys me that they er not even trying.

    What they need is a continuity manager to keep an eye on these things.

    If anybody from EON is reading this: I have a degree in theatre science and I would love to apply for this job. :D
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  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    And had a haircut.... 8-)
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    and lost about 10 pounds....
  • christothemanchristotheman AustraliaPosts: 254MI6 Agent
    Maybe he went to a gym on the way to venice...... :007)
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  • FoxFox Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    Having a ton of one night stands, James Bond is an expert quick change artist.
  • bluemanblueman PDXPosts: 1,667MI6 Agent
    Lazy? Solid choices in both films: suit + vest in CR worked perfectly, great final image for Bond; no vest in QOS = equally solid choice as Bond goes from car chase to foot chase with only time for a quick Scotch in between. If you need something to help the continuity along, easy enough for Bond to have shed the vest while stuffing White into the trunk...
  • christothemanchristotheman AustraliaPosts: 254MI6 Agent
    And also during the CR QOS time-gap Bonds three button suit becomes a two button suit.
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  • shaughnessyshaughnessy USAPosts: 48MI6 Agent
    Its a 3 button suit rollled to the 2nd button. All are still there.
  • superdaddysuperdaddy englandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    could have used vest to stop white bleeding to death so mi6 could interrogate him.
    thats my version and im sticking to it.
  • j.bladesj.blades Currently? You must be joking?Posts: 530MI6 Agent
    i would just say, regarding the waistcoat, since the movie starts an hour after the last movie ended bond probably took the time to remove the waistcoat, it tends to be hot in italy, and stashed it behind the drivers seat. -{
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  • christothemanchristotheman AustraliaPosts: 254MI6 Agent
    How can he do that if he is in 2 seater car.
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  • j.bladesj.blades Currently? You must be joking?Posts: 530MI6 Agent
    theres always room behind the seat, in all two seaters.
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  • DaltonFan1DaltonFan1 The West of IrelandPosts: 503MI6 Agent
    I think that when Bond had introduced himself, he had to take his jacket off before giving Mr. White a bit of a kicking, then he took off his waistcoat as this activity was causing him to perspire(but not weep blood), then after laying both behind the driver's seat, he put the jacket back on before driving off with White in the boot. This still doesn't explain how or why Bond changed watches, lost weight, aged, removed the silencer from his HK, or magically turned his P99 into a PPK?
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  • waltherppk7.65waltherppk7.65 Posts: 97MI6 Agent
    if anyone remembers the bathroom fight scene in CR Bond is using a ppk i believe like with most police that the ppk became his off duty weapon because I dont believe that the capture of Mr.White was a mi6 sanctioned mission i believe Bond went on a private vandetta. reguarding the vest and watch etc. the vest could easily have been taken off because we dont actually know what happens between Bond shooting him and the car chase in quantum, however if its even somewhat like the game he could have taken it off in the journey from white back to the aston martin. The watch, i just rewatched cr and i noticed you really dont see the watch at the end of the movie so it could be possible that he switched between venice and mr. whites, i mean he changed clothes right?, the weight could be from the depression bond could just not be eating since vesper just died i mean he didnt sleep im sure that didnt help any so this is my view on these topics i believe them somewhat valid but you never really know anybody do you?
  • DanielCraig007DanielCraig007 Posts: 588MI6 Agent
    if anyone remembers the bathroom fight scene in CR Bond is using a ppk i believe like with most police that the ppk became his off duty weapon because I dont believe that the capture of Mr.White was a mi6 sanctioned mission i believe Bond went on a private vandetta. reguarding the vest and watch etc. the vest could easily have been taken off because we dont actually know what happens between Bond shooting him and the car chase in quantum, however if its even somewhat like the game he could have taken it off in the journey from white back to the aston martin. The watch, i just rewatched cr and i noticed you really dont see the watch at the end of the movie so it could be possible that he switched between venice and mr. whites, i mean he changed clothes right?, the weight could be from the depression bond could just not be eating since vesper just died i mean he didnt sleep im sure that didnt help any so this is my view on these topics i believe them somewhat valid but you never really know anybody do you?

    The answer is: 2 year gap + new costume designer + new clothing lable (Tom Ford)= bad continuity. Its as simple as that.
  • SpectreBlofeldSpectreBlofeld AroundPosts: 364MI6 Agent
    Is it really so much of a stretch to assume that more than 15 minutes existed between films? Nobody here is asking where the new Aston Martin came from, after all.

    End of CR - Bond shoots White in the leg.

    He then either questions him for a while, or tosses White in the boot of White's own car (that is to say, the Aston belonged to Mr. White) while he fished around the property for information. At some point he removes his vest, perhaps as a makeshift tourniquet for White, or simply because he's warm. He helps himself to White's very nice Omega wristwatch, because why the hell not? White won't need to tell time where he's headed anyway, and this guy was responsible for Vesper's death, and Bond is pretty ruthless...

    He unscrewed the silencer from the HK in the beginning of the car chase, off-screen, because it adds too much to the length of the firearm to allow it to be wielded in the automobile.

    You can complain about lazy screenwriting, sure - but you could also use an ounce or two of imagination to quite reasonably explain a few minor, silly details.
  • BLU8BLU8 Ontario, CanadaPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    You could argue that the suit's vest was removed by Bond at some point between the movies (although QoS never explains exactly why it is missing), but the complete change of wardrobe is almost impossible to explain. The suit itself is completely different, along with the shirt, tie, & shoes. As several other posters have said, I honestly just chalk this up to poor continuity between films, with no plausible "in-movie" explanation.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Craigs Huge Manly chest Expanded and ripped it apart, Rather like the Hulk.
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  • Mr BeechMr Beech Florida, USAPosts: 1,748MI6 Agent
    Yeah, it is pretty simple. I am sure someone in production thought about it, but it was more important to please the designer (Tom Ford) who was paying big bucks + offering free tailored customs for Craig. In an exclusive deal like that, you can't say, "Well you can be exclusive except for the opening of the movie..."
  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,328MI6 Agent
    Continuity is one of the most demanding and unrecognised jobs on any film set. They are responsible for keeping an eye on absolutely everything from one camera angle and take to another and keep bulging binders full of copious notes and lots of photos. I honestly don't know how they do it and they deserve every penny they get. But, for all my sympathy, I still get frustrated when they miss something...like when Bond's shirt collar keeps popping in and out of his jacket during his chat with M!
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