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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,350MI6 Agent
    I gotta admit, there's more and more clues this film is a Dr No remake and less and less clues they will be finally adapting You Only Live Twice.
    boo and hiss
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,206MI6 Agent
    I gotta admit, there's more and more clues this film is a Dr No remake and less and less clues they will be finally adapting You Only Live Twice.
    boo and hiss

    Totally agree.

    I REALLY don't want a DN remake, whereas I REALLY desire a Garden Of Death story. I don't know why they have to re-tread old ground when there's still unused stuff :#
    1 - Lald, 2 - Ltk, 3 - Avtak, 4 - Op, 5 - Dn, 6 - Fyeo, 7 - Tswlm, 8 - Daf, 9 - Sf, 10 - Ohmss, 11 - Yolt, 12 - Ge, 13 - Tld, 14 - Mr, 15 - Gf, 16 - Tb, 17 - Tmwtgg, 18 - Sp, 19 - Tnd, 20 - Dad, 21 - Twine, 22 - Frwl, 23 - Cr, 24 - Qos

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • SevenSeven Posts: 270MI6 Agent
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    This COULD be a japanese (!) mask from the traditional No(!)h-theater.
    Like this one:

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    The mask is that of a central female character of Noh-theater, called Ko-omote.
    This character portrays a girl of fifteen or sixteen (!), the youngest woman represented by the masks from the Noh-theater, with purity, beauty and virginity. "Ko" in Ko-omote means pretty or lovely.

    Regards,
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    Collider reported that Ben Whishaw said that NTTD is, "Daniel’s last film as James Bond, so I think what they can look forward to is a kind of summing up, I guess, of all of the previous Bond films that Daniel’s done. There are strands from all of the films in it, kind of reaching a conclusion."
    https://collider.com/no-time-to-die-daniel-craig-last-bond-movie/

    While Spectre hamfistedly, some might say, linked the previous films and their villains to Spectre with pictures of them posted as a trail for Bond to follow to find Blofeld in the ruined MI6 hq, NTTD could weave more subtle elements of the past films together. A Casino Royale strand was the betrayal of Vesper and now apparently Bond thinks Madeleine betrayed him.

    Another strand of Casino was Bond's concern about his job and him wanting to quit, which he did in Spectre and perhaps NTTD will deal with Bond's ambivalence towards his spying work?

    And in Casino, and Quantum, a strand was who to trust. Again, trust is an issue in NTTD, from trusting Madeleine to Bond being the only person Leiter can trust.

    In QoS, the CIA is working with Quantum and one Sony Spectre early script email leak was that the CIA is working with SPECTRE.

    A strand of Spectre and Skyfall was how intelligence is changing and agents are old fashioned, but it's not clear how that would manifest in NTTD.

    A strand of Spectre was how Madeleine was the key to learning more about Spectre and the trailer would suggest that will be the case for NTTD. Another strand of Spectre was how Blofeld interfered in Bond's life. Will Blofeld's ongoing contact with Spectre from prison and his link to Madeleine's past ensure that Blofeld does that again?

    Spectre linked all the villains together, but it wasn't explained how Quantum fits into Spectre. Maybe that will be explained?
    A strand of Spectre was Bond's familial link with Oberhauser/Blofeld. Will Oberhauser-Blofeld actually be an early clone of the 'original' 1946 DOB Blofeld? Is that what he meant by his mother's bloodline? And why does the Blofeld in the Wakefield prison computer screen shot have two good eyes?
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    Possible evidence that Q is going to die in NTTD.

    Ben Whishaw tells Kevin 'Clerks' Smith in an IMDB video at 3mins 35secs that he is; “done now. I’ve done the three [Bond films] that I was…contracted to do.”
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2959916825

    Whishaw also earlier in the interview says that Q gives Bond a gadget in NTTD. Maybe he means a plane?

    The Mail on Sunday is the latest to comment on the runtime length. It says it knows that the run time is currently 2h 54mins but could be 3h.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7956427/James-Bond-film-No-Time-Die-longest-180-minute-running-time.html

    The highest scene number pictured has been scene 253, which we saw a clapperboard picture for while they were filming on the Italian coast, and that equates to 2h 57mins. If that is not the epilogue we normally get, then the film could easily be 3h excluding end titles.

    The mail on Sunday also claims the running time has grown because pages of script have been added during filming and it claims filming was chaotic. Ben Whishaw has also told Collider filming was: "quite improvisational...sometimes quite chaotic".
    https://collider.com/no-time-to-die-daniel-craig-last-bond-movie/
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 9,863MI6 Agent
    I wouldnt say a professional contract expiring means he is going to get bumped off!!!

    Imagine Naomi's is also maybe up after this one as well as the rest of the gang
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  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 766MI6 Agent
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    That would fit with the possible (near) end scene of Bond, Madeleine and Nomi at the rocky cliffs in the dingi... ?:)
    The name is Walker by the way.

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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
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    That would fit with the possible (near) end scene of Bond, Madeleine and Nomi at the rocky cliffs in the dingi... ?:)

    I found that hard to believe. We know they filmed at the Faroe islands, and this was speculated to be for an island that would be in the disputed Kuril islands, and so the rocky beach is adequate for that. Is there a need for a volcanic island?

    The Daily Mail story also says that the lair is a WWII bunker, but why would you have that on a volcanic island and why would it have Russian signage, as we know that inside the lair it says 'restricted area' in Russian in one of the official pictures?
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/966202/#p966202
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 766MI6 Agent
    Further Dr.No reference...


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    The name is Walker by the way.

    IG: @thebondarchives
    Check it out, you won’t be disappointed :)
  • JTMJTM Posts: 2,962MI6 Agent
    Further Dr.No reference...

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    Ugh, that's making me even more worried that they're actually going that route...
  • BraxoBraxo Posts: 44MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Whishaw also earlier in the interview says that Q gives Bond a gadget in NTTD. Maybe he means a plane?

    Plane you say?
  • MrSwindermanMrSwinderman Dover, Ohio, USAPosts: 208MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    I could see someone in the writer’s room thinking it’s clever to have Dr. No (the first main villain that Bond killed first in the movies) to kill James in this one...

    I wonder if this is what they mean by changing everything. I hope not but I will remain excited and optimistic until we see the movie.

    Great trailers so far though! -{
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    Is this Q watching them leave the transport plane in the glider?
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    My theories about the third act are all a bit out of whack now, as I thought Bond left London with Madeleine in the Vantage and then Nomi catches up with him after it all goes wrong. But it seems, Bond's request for a plane from Q is dealt with officially and Bond leaves London with Nomi and apparently without Madeleine and without the Vantage. You can see Bond wearing his N.Peal top in the plane so that is their insertion into Safin's island. I'm thoroughly confused.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    Braxo wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    Whishaw also earlier in the interview says that Q gives Bond a gadget in NTTD. Maybe he means a plane?

    Plane you say?

    Yeah, wow! Good guess! LOL
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 17,920MI6 Agent
    It looks like NTTD will have many DN references, but I don't think Safin will be No and it won't be a remake
  • SevenSeven Posts: 270MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    I'm thoroughly confused.

    Well, we wouldn't want that, would we?
  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 469MI6 Agent
    Further Dr.No reference...


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    Yikes! That's a massive clue. I'd put money on him being the doc now. Or maybe he's Dr. No's grandson :))
  • JTMJTM Posts: 2,962MI6 Agent
    Or it could be just a random circular vent in the roof, something not designed to be a reference to anything?
  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 469MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Or it could be just a random circular vent in the roof, something not designed to be a reference to anything?

    How could that not be an intentional nod to Dr. No? Do you think they just did same thing by mistake?
  • armenianmoviemanarmenianmovieman The 818Posts: 481MI6 Agent
    Seven wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    I'm thoroughly confused.

    Well, we wouldn't want that, would we?

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    Yes. Consssssiderably.
  • db5.007db5.007 SwitzerlandPosts: 73MI6 Agent
    Not sure if it’s really news but have seen an interview of one of Omega executives who claims that the Seamaster will “play a role” in NTTD.
    Assuming it’s true, guess it will be something like we saw in Spectre.
    "Surround yourself with human beings, they are easier to fight for than principles.”
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    db5.007 wrote:
    Not sure if it’s really news but have seen an interview of one of Omega executives who claims that the Seamaster will “play a role” in NTTD.
    Assuming it’s true, guess it will be something like we saw in Spectre.

    Link?
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    Previously this (https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/965240/#p965240) was my idea for NTTD's story from Bond's return to London and onward.
    Bond goes back to London to warn M about what has happened to Spectre and his concerns about Nomi. Bond then visits Q, who says, 'so you're not dead,' confirming Bond did fake his own death. Bond needs Q's help and asks Q for a plane suggesting that the destination is an island. Bond meets M and Tanner secretly in Hammersmith to discuss the infiltration of MI6 and CIA by the new evil empire that has destroyed Spectre. Bond goes to see Blofeld at Wakefield prison and encounters Madeleine again. Blofeld tells Bond her secret will be the death of Bond. While Bond is in Wakefield, Q is taken hostage. Blofeld's release is demanded for Q's safe return. M unofficially sends Bond with Madeleine to the Russian Far East to get Q back.

    Tracking down Q, Bond and Madeleine are in a chase with Ashe and his henchmen. With the Vantage, Bond rescues Q but he is mortally wounded. Bond, Madeleine and a dying Q are trying to escape from Ashe's Land Rover Defender and Safin's helicopter but Bond fails, Madeleine is taken and Q dies. Bond is found by Nomi and together they plan to attack Safin's ex-diamond mine lair and they infiltrate it. Bond and Nomi find Safin's deadly algae farm and his cloning/identity changing clinic, and Nomi finds Madeleine and a clone victim child. Bond goes to kill Safin to avenge Q while Nomi, Madeleine and the child escape to a rocky beach. Bond kills Safin and escapes the self-destructing lair reaching the beach and they all escape in a RIB. Mission accomplished, Bond, Madeleine and the clone child walk into the sunset as a family, Bond has the happy ever after.

    However, seeing what looked like Q watching Bond and Nomi launch out of the military aircraft and them both wearing the combat outfits we see them infiltrating Safin's lair in, then the sequence of events is clearly very different. We also now know that the film is not 3h long, according to Fukunaga, but it could be 2h 45m or 2h 30m. So, to reconstruct the third act, I've organised brief descriptions of images, both official and unofficial, we have seen to date (if I've missed anything do say) in an order that may represent the third act.

    Bond and Nomi in glider launching from the back of an aircraft, Q appearing to look-on.
    Bond and Nomi in Safin's lair (various images).
    Safin in his lair with his goons.
    Bond on his own in Safin's lair. (We haven't seen Nomi in Safin's lair on her own.)
    Bond alone in an underground tunnel, does gun barrel sequence like turn.
    Nomi and Madeleine, and possibly a child, on a rocky beach. (How Madeleine gets there is anyone's guess)
    Nomi, Bond, Madeleine, and possibly a child, in a RIB.

    A beige SUV being chased on Norway's Atlantic road.
    Bond in a green coat driving the beige SUV with Madeleine and possibly a child in the back.
    Bond fires grenade launcher in forest.
    A BTS picture of Malek in Swinley forest.
    Bond in a green coat running after a helicopter.
    Bond walking along the road wearing the green coat/Nomi in the Valhalla.

    Bond and Madeleine in the Vantage on the Atlantic road. (This must be the end and not part of the SUV chase. The filming location may not represent what is happening in the scene)
    The Scandinavian Villa in Swinley forest.
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 766MI6 Agent
    New (unofficial) pics

    Bond exiting the DB5:


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    Bond at the train station:

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    The name is Walker by the way.

    IG: @thebondarchives
    Check it out, you won’t be disappointed :)
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    Fukunaga has said that NTTD is not 3h long, so that makes the third act very time constrained if it is the DC films' norm of about 2h 20min. In which case it's only about 25 mins from the Hammersmith bridge M, Tanner and Bond scene to the end of the film. Thinking about that third act, my questions are;

    How does Madeleine go from Wakefield prison to where Bond and Nomi are? Who is on the backseat of the beige SUV with Madeleine? Why has Bond got a green coat?

    Bond and Nomi seem to fail in their mission and end up separated. Is the SUV chase, Bond and others trying to escape Safin's men after the lair infiltration? Bond then fails and is left running after a helicopter. Then Bond ends up walking along the road alone and Nomi now in a Valhalla - stolen from Safin?

    In past films, Bond has visited a lair and then returned later, for example, TSWLM and Atlantis and Octopussy and Khan's Palace. Will we see another infiltation of the lair to retrieve whomever Safin took from the beige SUV?
  • NoiNoi Posts: 498MI6 Agent
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    Total Film febr issue out today, interview with Malek & Fukunaga.
  • AugustWalkerAugustWalker Posts: 766MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Fukunaga has said that NTTD is not 3h long, so that makes the third act very time constrained if it is the DC films' norm of about 2h 20min. In which case it's only about 25 mins from the Hammersmith bridge M, Tanner and Bond scene to the end of the film. Thinking about that third act, my questions are;

    How does Madeleine go from Wakefield prison to where Bond and Nomi are? Who is on the backseat of the beige SUV with Madeleine? Why has Bond got a green coat?

    Bond and Nomi seem to fail in their mission and end up separated. Is the SUV chase, Bond and others trying to escape Safin's men after the lair infiltration? Bond then fails and is left running after a helicopter. Then Bond ends up walking along the road alone and Nomi now in a Valhalla - stolen from Safin?

    In past films, Bond has visited a lair and then returned later, for example, TSWLM and Atlantis and Octopussy and Khan's Palace. Will we see another infiltation of the lair to retrieve whomever Safin took from the beige SUV?

    I think it will play out sth like this:

    Bond and Madeleine travel to (mysterious country) via the Atlantic Sea Road. There, they go to the castle (filmed in Scotland) and „pick up“ the young girl and escape in a jeep. Being followed by Ash in the Land Rover and the helicopter through the forest, Bond looses control over his SUV and the baddies manage to abduct the two women in the helicopter, leaving Bond alone and eventually picked up by Nomi‘s Aston.
    .
    End of act 2
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    Then Bond and Nomi start a rescue mission via the glider-plane and infiltrate Safin‘s lair...
    End of that scene is the escape via the little boat, the whole lair being probably blown up.
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    Then an epilogue and fin.
    The name is Walker by the way.

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    Check it out, you won’t be disappointed :)
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    I think it will play out sth like this:

    Bond and Madeleine travel to (mysterious country) via the Atlantic Sea Road. There, they go to the castle (filmed in Scotland) and „pick up“ the young girl and escape in a jeep. Being followed by Ash in the Land Rover and the helicopter through the forest, Bond looses control over his SUV and the baddies manage to abduct the two women in the helicopter, leaving Bond alone and eventually picked up by Nomi‘s Aston.
    .
    End of act 2
    .
    Then Bond and Nomi start a rescue mission via the glider-plane and infiltrate Safin‘s lair...
    End of that scene is the escape via the little boat, the whole lair being probably blown up.
    .
    Then an epilogue and fin.

    That's broadly what I thought, and now I just checked, and Bond is not wearing his tactical trousers with the Henley long sleeved top and green jacket when Nomi finds him on the road and I had thought he was. OK, so he seems to be wearing a lot of Henley tops in the film.

    But, it begs the question, when he goes to see Q when he returns to London he says he needs a plane (we hear and see him say it in the 30 sec Q teaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLQLqFCZSDY). We know this is contemporaneous with that first visit to London because Moneypenny is wearing the same clothes at Q's house that she wears in the MI6 office. And if he needs a plane then, why is he driving the Vantage with Madeleine later and apparently he needs another plane from Q again after that. Lots of planes.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    Lifestyle magazine Mashable has an on-set NTTD report and there's a lot of info there, a lot of which we already know, but here is the interesting stuff.
    https://mashable.com/article/james-bond-no-time-to-die-set-visit/?europe=true

    "[Felix] asks him to do him a favour and that is to go and collect a package in Cuba...So Bond, wanting to be a good friend, and slightly suspicious of what's going on, mention of Spectre out there, he decides to fulfill the request..."

    So, Bond knows he's going to encounter Spectre, and now the mission is not a kidnapped scientist but a package. One assumes that if you're collecting a package, package is not a euphemism for a scientist who has been kidnapped. So, what happened to the mission to rescue a scientist? Was that misdirection in the synopsis?

    "...during the course of the [Cuba] event, he comes across a suspicious woman who he had seen in Jamaica."
    We saw Bond bump into Nomi in the nightclub in the August BTS video and again in the 4 December trailer.

    The article also reveals that Nomi is a pilot (Royal Air Force, Army or Royal Navy?) and she has a gadget, a portable minilab which has a mini scanner gadget. I guess this is to analyse whatever is in Safin's lair? The article does reveal the threat is related to biological warfare.

    Interestingly the article says that Primo, who we know is played by Dali Benssalah, will be in the Jamaican nightclub. So, he doesn't die in Matera. Does this mean Spectre is keeping an eye on Bond? Or Felix Leiter?

    The other interesting bit is about the DB5. The article says it has a powerful smokescreen, upgraded tire spikes, and explosives that can be dropped from the back of the car. Those explosives might be the mine like objects seen in the Bond in Motion exhibit.
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/964652/#p964652
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,345MI6 Agent
    Awesome looking set in the background of the supervising stunt coordinator's pic of him and his pals.
    https://twitter.com/springhousese/status/1225873683757006850?s=20
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