LALD, and AVTAK both reference the enemy dying.
TND says that the future doesn't die.
DAD says that Bond will live to die another day.
Another Way to Die references that trust can get you killed referencing Vesper.
'Reason to Die' is specifically suicidal, in line with the theories. Bond either has a reason to sacrifice himself to the mission or needs one. It sounds very, 'slit my wrists on the coffee table'. Well, 'Never Say Never again' had a very funny origin, too.
'Something to Die For' sounds more like entering Valhalla, and it could still be a pun on 'something to live for'
A Fleming line that covers much of the same ground as "Reason to die" is "Way of death" from YOLT. "“It’s their way of death that’s got me a bit puzzled,” said Bond amiably, and he handed his glass to the kneeling waitress for more saké to give him strength to try the seaweed.
The meaning of the two titles isn't the same, but my guess is that ist's close enough to work in the same script. "Way of Death" has the same type of twist of a known expression, but most importantly it's Fleming.
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LALD, and AVTAK both reference the enemy dying.
TND says that the future doesn't die.
DAD says that Bond will live to die another day.
Another Way to Die references that trust can get you killed referencing Vesper.
'Reason to Die' is specifically suicidal, in line with the theories. Bond either has a reason to sacrifice himself to the mission or needs one. It sounds very, 'slit my wrists on the coffee table'. Well, 'Never Say Never again' had a very funny origin, too.
'Something to Die For' sounds more like entering Valhalla, and it could still be a pun on 'something to live for'
Bond sacrificing himself kind of sounds similar to part of Mission Impossible 2. Nyah injects herself with the virus so the villain doesn't kill her. While it didn't kill her, it nearly did. Could we Bond do the same thing? Inject himself with whatever virus or something the villain is brewing up? Bond takes the virus, dies and kills the batch the villain was brewing. Or something like that.
Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
LALD, and AVTAK both reference the enemy dying.
TND says that the future doesn't die.
DAD says that Bond will live to die another day.
Another Way to Die references that trust can get you killed referencing Vesper.
'Reason to Die' is specifically suicidal, in line with the theories. Bond either has a reason to sacrifice himself to the mission or needs one. It sounds very, 'slit my wrists on the coffee table'. Well, 'Never Say Never again' had a very funny origin, too.
'Something to Die For' sounds more like entering Valhalla, and it could still be a pun on 'something to live for'
Bond sacrificing himself kind of sounds similar to part of Mission Impossible 2. Nyah injects herself with the virus so the villain doesn't kill her. While it didn't kill her, it nearly did. Could we Bond do the same thing? Inject himself with whatever virus or something the villain is brewing up? Bond takes the virus, dies and kills the batch the villain was brewing. Or something like that.
LALD, and AVTAK both reference the enemy dying.
TND says that the future doesn't die.
DAD says that Bond will live to die another day.
Another Way to Die references that trust can get you killed referencing Vesper.
'Reason to Die' is specifically suicidal, in line with the theories. Bond either has a reason to sacrifice himself to the mission or needs one. It sounds very, 'slit my wrists on the coffee table'. Well, 'Never Say Never again' had a very funny origin, too.
'Something to Die For' sounds more like entering Valhalla, and it could still be a pun on 'something to live for'
Bond sacrificing himself kind of sounds similar to part of Mission Impossible 2. Nyah injects herself with the virus so the villain doesn't kill her. While it didn't kill her, it nearly did. Could we Bond do the same thing? Inject himself with whatever virus or something the villain is brewing up? Bond takes the virus, dies and kills the batch the villain was brewing. Or something like that.
Something like that. I would like him to kamikaze the Valhalla into some nefarious device.
LALD, and AVTAK both reference the enemy dying.
TND says that the future doesn't die.
DAD says that Bond will live to die another day.
Another Way to Die references that trust can get you killed referencing Vesper.
'Reason to Die' is specifically suicidal, in line with the theories. Bond either has a reason to sacrifice himself to the mission or needs one. It sounds very, 'slit my wrists on the coffee table'. Well, 'Never Say Never again' had a very funny origin, too.
'Something to Die For' sounds more like entering Valhalla, and it could still be a pun on 'something to live for'
Bond sacrificing himself kind of sounds similar to part of Mission Impossible 2. Nyah injects herself with the virus so the villain doesn't kill her. While it didn't kill her, it nearly did. Could we Bond do the same thing? Inject himself with whatever virus or something the villain is brewing up? Bond takes the virus, dies and kills the batch the villain was brewing. Or something like that.
LALD, and AVTAK both reference the enemy dying.
TND says that the future doesn't die.
DAD says that Bond will live to die another day.
Another Way to Die references that trust can get you killed referencing Vesper.
'Reason to Die' is specifically suicidal, in line with the theories. Bond either has a reason to sacrifice himself to the mission or needs one. It sounds very, 'slit my wrists on the coffee table'. Well, 'Never Say Never again' had a very funny origin, too.
'Something to Die For' sounds more like entering Valhalla, and it could still be a pun on 'something to live for'
Bond sacrificing himself kind of sounds similar to part of Mission Impossible 2. Nyah injects herself with the virus so the villain doesn't kill her. While it didn't kill her, it nearly did. Could we Bond do the same thing? Inject himself with whatever virus or something the villain is brewing up? Bond takes the virus, dies and kills the batch the villain was brewing. Or something like that.
Something like that. I would like him to kamikaze the Valhalla into some nefarious device.
I was thinking the same thing, but I doubt it. I also think someone will write a review with the words "The new Bond movie is so bad it's a reason to die" if this is the real title. Possibly "The newest Bond movie is a very good reason for the whole franchise should die".
Yep, reviews like that are inevitable if the title is that.
Personally, I sometimes feel that waiting for this bond title and film is one of my reasons to live lately...How ironic it would be if the title really is A Reason To Die... lol
Way Of Death would have the slight edge I think, but it's hard to say without knowing the context in which they'd be used in the film.
Either way, many titles do grow on me. I was massively dubious about SPECTRE at first, but now I quite like it.... although I prefer it as a word (Spectre) rather than the acronym (SPECTRE)
I don't like the name "Reason to Die" it sounds too much like a Bond pastiche, of if someone on the street had to come up with a name on the street. Having said that, its better than Eclipse, or Shamelady or Shatterhand in my opinion.
But all the names that have been parroted around haven't been that good IMHO.
“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
Hopefully, they have or will come up with a better title than "Reason To Die" which sounds more like the title of a TV show episode or chapter in a book to me. I agree with Matt S, "Way of Death" sounds like a Bruce Lee film. The scene on the frozen lake in Norway says "The Death Collector" to me and I still hold out some hope for "The Garden of Death" but I have serious doubts that it will be either.
based on past precedent, since they ran out of actual Fleming titles, the ones with Die or Kill in the title are some pretty soulless shapeless committee written shambles of films.
and Tomorrow Never Dies doesn't mean anything, it was a typo. So was A View to a Kill, a misrendering of an actual Fleming title nobody took the time to notice.
There is a third possibility for Lynch's character. She's 007 when Bond is in Jamaica, but when he becomes active again she steps down from the 00-section. He's 007 again and Lynch is a "ordinary" 0-agent.
Possible, but that would be a surprising sexist move for the modern Bond films: I don't see them depicting a woman being made to step aside from her job for a man to do it for her.
And why would they do that? If they make him a Double-0 again why wouldn't they just give him another number and keep her in the job?
Wouldn't surprise me if she's 007 throughout most of the film. She may get killed off or turn out to be a baddie later on. I think having her step down or aside to make way for the real 007 would be a bit sexist. I can see Bond spending most of the film as a freelancer working alongside Felix and the current 007. ?:)
etc
if Bond is redrafted to the Service while another agent has his number, they should assign him the special number 7777. It would be some actual Fleming content, and it's from the one book we're al hoping they'll finally adapt.
I wonder if it should be noted that the Fleming estate okayed the publishing of Forever and a Day by Anthony Horowitz - a prequel to Casino Royale and in the book the 007 codename is reassigned. Perhaps to prepare Bond fans that it can be re-assigned to new agents.
I think Ian Fleming Publications and EON are two different things, I don't think they coordinate.
Absolutely true Horowitz set the precedent the number can be reassigned. And I'm sure M would do the same thing in the films if Bond quit his job, none of the versions of M seem that sentimental.
But it's easier to say there was another 007 before Bond. Another 007 after Bond is going to be trickier to write around.
Folks above are not wrong. For there to be a Bond26, this other alleged 007 will have to give up the number one way or another before the end of Bond25.
For there to be a Bond26, this other alleged 007 will have to give up the number one way or another before the end of Bond25.
Why? The Craig films are not related to what came before, so why would they necessarily have to be related to what comes next? If Craig’s Bond dies, will we need to see the next actor rise from the grave? It’s the same principle. Bond 25 can end with another character as 007 and it won’t have any effect on Bond 26 so long as they go for a reboot.
Westminister and the Household Cavalry. This can mean a lot of different things, but I'm sure it will look great. One possibility is that the knighthood for Bond theory is correct.
I'm totally jealous of the car. I am curious as to why the Daily Mail blurred out the license number of the Aston Martin since it matches that of the AM in TLD and will be on screen.
Just saw this. If true, it’s as many of us suspected.
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Hmmmmmmm, as Loeffelholz said, if true its as many of us suspected. It could also work with the most recent title leak A Reason to Die. Bond will give his all to the mission and if he dies, he doesn't care. Driving the TD Aston he could utter the line A Reason to Die. It doesn't mean Bond has to die.
Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
I'm totally jealous of the car. I am curious as to why the Daily Mail blurred out the license number of the Aston Martin since it matches that of the AM in TLD and will be on screen.
I love that they've pixellated (which is stupid in the first place as it's a fake plate, which you'd think they'd have known when they googled the car and got its model name wrong- it's not a Volante) and that you can read it despite the pixellation anyway! They really are morons.
I love that footage though: you know Bond is big when all of the cars on the road are part of the filming!
How awesome does that car look though? I love that Bond doesn't even bother to take the key out of the ignition when he parks
I think in the social media posts today from the London filming we are seeing Bond arrive back in Whitehall for his meeting with M and something afterwards.
We now know the Aston Martin Vantage Volante is Bond's. Bond getting out of the car in Whitehall is scene 139A, this can be seen in a @007 Instagram post.
Bond is wearing the same outfit we saw him in in when he was with Prince Charles and in the horsemen photos you can also see a cut to DC's lip, which is one of the facial injuries we saw him have when he was with the Prince. The other injuries are obscured by the sunglasses. The horsemen in the Mall leading up to Buckingham Palace are in scene 152.
Spectre's scene 139A is Bond and Madeleine seeing the Rolls Royce coming towards them in the desert. It's at 1 hour 37 minutes.
Casino's scene 139 (no A) is at 1 hour 25 minutes and is where Bond looks at sleeping Vesper after he's killed Steven Obanno and his henchman.
In my post here (https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/952367/#p952367) I talk about the Prince Charles video and mention that the MI6Community had posted a picture that shows on the blown up screen the M office scene number, 143C. The M office scene is between 1 hour 30 or 1 hour 40 minutes into the film.
So, I think today they were just filming Bond's return, which sees him back in London by about 1 hour 30 minutes. Two thirds of the way through the second act, if it is a 2 hour 20 minute film. (First act 30 minutes. Second act 90 minutes. Third act 20 minutes.)
Scene 152, while it is outside Buckingham Palace, seems to early in the film for a knighthood scene, at scene 155, for example, unless the film is not going to be 2 hours 20 long.
Scene 155, for Spectre was omitted, never filmed, but scene 152 was the establishing shot for the Centre for National Security building and comes in at 1 hour 52 minutes. It's where M challenges C with Q's help.
Casino's scene 152 is Bond staggering across the street to get to his Aston for the medical kit and 155 is a scene at MI6 with the doctors telling Bond what to do to counter the poison. 152 comes at 1 hour 35 minmutes and 155 at 1 hour 36 minutes.
So, the horsemen in the Mall, perhaps an establishing shot for Buckingham Palace, is perhaps between 1 hour 35 and 1 hour 50 minutes. If the film is only 2 hours long, or slightly less, then it could be setting up for a knighthood scene. Or, Bond gets his knighthood and then goes on to attack the villain's lair with Lashana in the third act? Or, Spectre attacks Buckingam Palace in the third act.
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LALD, and AVTAK both reference the enemy dying.
TND says that the future doesn't die.
DAD says that Bond will live to die another day.
Another Way to Die references that trust can get you killed referencing Vesper.
'Reason to Die' is specifically suicidal, in line with the theories. Bond either has a reason to sacrifice himself to the mission or needs one. It sounds very, 'slit my wrists on the coffee table'. Well, 'Never Say Never again' had a very funny origin, too.
'Something to Die For' sounds more like entering Valhalla, and it could still be a pun on 'something to live for'
"“It’s their way of death that’s got me a bit puzzled,” said Bond amiably, and he handed his glass to the kneeling waitress for more saké to give him strength to try the seaweed.
The meaning of the two titles isn't the same, but my guess is that ist's close enough to work in the same script. "Way of Death" has the same type of twist of a known expression, but most importantly it's Fleming.
Bond sacrificing himself kind of sounds similar to part of Mission Impossible 2. Nyah injects herself with the virus so the villain doesn't kill her. While it didn't kill her, it nearly did. Could we Bond do the same thing? Inject himself with whatever virus or something the villain is brewing up? Bond takes the virus, dies and kills the batch the villain was brewing. Or something like that.
Something like that. I would like him to kamikaze the Valhalla into some nefarious device.
Interesting mix of cultural refernces
Like what if:
Rami Malek referring to the garden's suicides - "everyone needs a reason to die mr bond. so what's yours?"
Bond - "Queen and country"
Or something like that.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Personally, I sometimes feel that waiting for this bond title and film is one of my reasons to live lately...How ironic it would be if the title really is A Reason To Die... lol
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Either way, many titles do grow on me. I was massively dubious about SPECTRE at first, but now I quite like it.... although I prefer it as a word (Spectre) rather than the acronym (SPECTRE)
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
But all the names that have been parroted around haven't been that good IMHO.
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
and Tomorrow Never Dies doesn't mean anything, it was a typo. So was A View to a Kill, a misrendering of an actual Fleming title nobody took the time to notice.
if Bond is redrafted to the Service while another agent has his number, they should assign him the special number 7777. It would be some actual Fleming content, and it's from the one book we're al hoping they'll finally adapt.
Absolutely true Horowitz set the precedent the number can be reassigned. And I'm sure M would do the same thing in the films if Bond quit his job, none of the versions of M seem that sentimental.
But it's easier to say there was another 007 before Bond. Another 007 after Bond is going to be trickier to write around.
Folks above are not wrong. For there to be a Bond26, this other alleged 007 will have to give up the number one way or another before the end of Bond25.
Why? The Craig films are not related to what came before, so why would they necessarily have to be related to what comes next? If Craig’s Bond dies, will we need to see the next actor rise from the grave? It’s the same principle. Bond 25 can end with another character as 007 and it won’t have any effect on Bond 26 so long as they go for a reboot.
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I'm totally jealous of the car. I am curious as to why the Daily Mail blurred out the license number of the Aston Martin since it matches that of the AM in TLD and will be on screen.
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Bond: “I must be dreaming.”
Just saw this. If true, it’s as many of us suspected.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Hmmmmmmm, as Loeffelholz said, if true its as many of us suspected. It could also work with the most recent title leak A Reason to Die. Bond will give his all to the mission and if he dies, he doesn't care. Driving the TD Aston he could utter the line A Reason to Die. It doesn't mean Bond has to die.
I love that they've pixellated (which is stupid in the first place as it's a fake plate, which you'd think they'd have known when they googled the car and got its model name wrong- it's not a Volante) and that you can read it despite the pixellation anyway! They really are morons.
I love that footage though: you know Bond is big when all of the cars on the road are part of the filming!
How awesome does that car look though? I love that Bond doesn't even bother to take the key out of the ignition when he parks
We now know the Aston Martin Vantage Volante is Bond's. Bond getting out of the car in Whitehall is scene 139A, this can be seen in a @007 Instagram post.
Bond is wearing the same outfit we saw him in in when he was with Prince Charles and in the horsemen photos you can also see a cut to DC's lip, which is one of the facial injuries we saw him have when he was with the Prince. The other injuries are obscured by the sunglasses. The horsemen in the Mall leading up to Buckingham Palace are in scene 152.
Spectre's scene 139A is Bond and Madeleine seeing the Rolls Royce coming towards them in the desert. It's at 1 hour 37 minutes.
Casino's scene 139 (no A) is at 1 hour 25 minutes and is where Bond looks at sleeping Vesper after he's killed Steven Obanno and his henchman.
In my post here (https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/952367/#p952367) I talk about the Prince Charles video and mention that the MI6Community had posted a picture that shows on the blown up screen the M office scene number, 143C. The M office scene is between 1 hour 30 or 1 hour 40 minutes into the film.
So, I think today they were just filming Bond's return, which sees him back in London by about 1 hour 30 minutes. Two thirds of the way through the second act, if it is a 2 hour 20 minute film. (First act 30 minutes. Second act 90 minutes. Third act 20 minutes.)
Scene 152, while it is outside Buckingham Palace, seems to early in the film for a knighthood scene, at scene 155, for example, unless the film is not going to be 2 hours 20 long.
Scene 155, for Spectre was omitted, never filmed, but scene 152 was the establishing shot for the Centre for National Security building and comes in at 1 hour 52 minutes. It's where M challenges C with Q's help.
Casino's scene 152 is Bond staggering across the street to get to his Aston for the medical kit and 155 is a scene at MI6 with the doctors telling Bond what to do to counter the poison. 152 comes at 1 hour 35 minmutes and 155 at 1 hour 36 minutes.
So, the horsemen in the Mall, perhaps an establishing shot for Buckingham Palace, is perhaps between 1 hour 35 and 1 hour 50 minutes. If the film is only 2 hours long, or slightly less, then it could be setting up for a knighthood scene. Or, Bond gets his knighthood and then goes on to attack the villain's lair with Lashana in the third act? Or, Spectre attacks Buckingam Palace in the third act.
Pretty ace, isn't it?
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