Daniel Craigs physique for Bond 23

DanielCraig007

I think he was too beefy in CR. In QoS he looked more trimmed. Maybe hell be even more leaner in Bond 23. I hope so.
He will look better in a suit and blend in better.
Maybe this is a way for the filmakers to show how he evolves from a beefy brute to a lean sophisticated killing machine in three films?
What kind of physique do you think Craig should have in Bond 23?

Lexi

DanielCraig007 wrote:

I think he was too beefy in CR. In QoS he looked more trimmed. Maybe hell be even more leaner in Bond 23. I hope so.
He will look better in a suit and blend in better.
Maybe this is a way for the filmakers to show how he evolves from a beefy brute to a lean sophisticated killing machine in three films?
What kind of physique do you think Craig should have in Bond 23?

I'm not complaining for either... although you are right, he does look a bit too beefed in CR and his trimmed down physique is a better match in QoS - however, he is going to have to hit the gym... as recent pics of Daniel show him as quite a lot slimmer - and even a bit gaunt.......No doubt he will get back into shape... (I think it helps with all the stunts he does too)
As long as we get to see the results..... then I'll be happy

Loeffelholz

Lexi wrote:

No doubt he will get back into shape... (I think it helps with all the stunts he does too)
As long as we get to see the results..... then I'll be happy

I thought he was nearly perfect, build-wise, in QoS...wouldn't want him to get much leaner than that :007)

The gal I was seeing recently was not a Craig fan at all...in fact she singled out Craig's beach shot in CR and said: "He is NOT an attractive man." ) Guess her taste was a bit dicey

Thunderpussy

whenever I get on a beach, It's not long before I hear people saying "He's beached" and try pulling me back in to the water. As for Mr Craig, He was too bulky in CR but Better in QOS. But he should cut down on the chest exercise as he looks to be developing some Moobs in that Photo. )

walther p99

I think he should keep the QOS physique, and he probably will anyway, he looked great in CR but his slimmer physique definitely looked alot better, he fit suits perfectly and his face looked better because he wasn't as bulky.

007 and a half

Have a look at this video and at 1.20secs DC is talking with Jonathan Ross. He doesn't look bulky at all, I heard he weighed 174lbs in Casino Royale which isn't big.

The beach shots were taken at an angle so he looked bigger than what he was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfMvtRZvlP4&feature=related

HowardB

I think the way he looked in QOS is the perfect middle ground. The bulk in CR was reflective of where the charactor was developmentally at that time.....brute force, blunt instrument, not far removed from his commando/military past. Craig appears to be blessed with a naturally lean physique, so it's really easy for him to just go into the gym for a few weeks, build a little more muscle mass and appear much bigger on the screen. My 19 year old son is like that, he's 5'5" and 135 lbs but most people guess him to be 10 lbs heavier. Skinny waist, narrow hips, and big shoulders/chest.

Moore Than

According to the Mail Online, at least part of the reason for Daniel Craig's toned physique is kriotherapy. A treatment in which he endures freezing cold temperatures to stimulate his blood flow and give him more energy for exercise. It is believed the treatment can double the amount of time a person can exercise.

The FULL article.
How I got my 007 body:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2141268/How-I-got-007-body-Bond-star-Daniel-Craig-reveals-ice-cold-beauty-secret.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

HowardB

According to the Mail Online, at least part of the reason for Daniel Craig's toned physique is kriotherapy. A treatment in which he endures freezing cold temperatures to stimulate his blood flow and give him more energy for exercise. It is believed the treatment can double the amount of time a person can exercise.

Sounds like Tab nonsense.

Sir Miles

HowardB wrote:

According to the Mail Online, at least part of the reason for Daniel Craig's toned physique is kriotherapy. A treatment in which he endures freezing cold temperatures to stimulate his blood flow and give him more energy for exercise. It is believed the treatment can double the amount of time a person can exercise.

Sounds like Tab nonsense.

Could be...but the technique definitely works...so I would be surprised if he didn't use it...

Strangeways

I loved the bod in CR and thought he was even better in QoS.
At 44 DC looks fab, I work out 3/4 times a week and will be trying to go for that look on hol this summer.
Either way, I think DC is definitely the hottest 007 so far!

Wilde

I think estimations can vary immensely. Looking at the poolside picture of Craig in the (ambiguous) Orlebar's I would suggest that he is in 'Casino' form; however, looking at on-set images posted by folks here, he looks slimmer as if he has lost a fair amount of muscle mass - Probably because he's been told to slim down to fit in to those ridiculous skinny suits.

I guess the finished article will show the truth.

On a side note; there is some truth to the kyro theory. I always have a cold shower before I work out and it does make a difference compared to days when I omit one. When I was in the rowing team at university, our coach would have us take a cold shower before training and the routine has stayed with me. Try it out!

All the best,
Wilde -{

Gassy Man

I'm almost exactly the same age as Craig and our body frames are basically identical. I'm shorter, however, by an inch or so, and not as muscular as he is, but I stopped working out regularly years ago. I can tell you it doesn't take much for me to get toned, even at this age. The challenge for me was always to put on the mass. My body wants to be lean. If Craig has the same issue, then he wouldn't have to work out long to get definition. If I toss around some weights for just a few minutes, my body already starts to look bigger. (To put that in perspective, a neighbor who does work out once asked if I was simply because I'd been doing yard work for hours that day.) What he would have to do is some kind of program to bulk up, and if his body wants to be lean -- and younger photos of him suggest that -- then it wouldn't surprise me if they used steroids to help him along. I'm not saying he couldn't have gotten bigger with more natural efforts, but he seems like his body wants to be more lean.

That said, though I think he looks a little ridiculously "pumped up" in the beach shot in "Casino Royale," his thicker body in that film fit the physical punishment his character was supposed to endure. It made it almost believable that he would take a nail to the shoulder, for instance, and simply yank it out and carry on as though nothing had happened. I think it gave his Bond in that film the right presence and also made the potentially campy torture scene much more plausible. In "Quantum of Solace," his character did not endure quite the same amount of physical assault, so it made sense for him to be leaner. Though it doesn't really matter to me either way, I will say that when he is pumped up he moves more like Connery, with the kind of fluid confidence that I feel after exercising and the muscles are both tired and fired up at the same time.

welshboy78

He def seems to have got a way from the CR physique. In Cowboys and Aliens I thought he looked rather skinny and his face very gaunt due to his weight loss which makes him looks as the haters say - craggy etc.

Last I read he is more a cardio man then a pumping iron guy.

I preferred the look of him in CR however for a secret agent QoS physique is more realistic, more athletically fit then muscle!

welshboy78

PS the Kryotherapy is a huge thing amongst the Welsh rugby team, they go off to Poland and it enables their body to train 4-5 times a day! Their fitness has gone through the roof!!

Napoleon Plural

Deaver's Bond in Carte Blanche takes a 5 minute cold shower every morning, doesn't give a reason, sort of to test himself it seems.

Alec 006

The reason is plain obvious ) to get clean, so he doesn't start to stink )

Napoleon Plural wrote:

Deaver's Bond in Carte Blanche takes a 5 minute cold shower every morning, doesn't give a reason, sort of to test himself it seems.

HowardB

Even though this is the first I'm hearing of it, I don't doubt the efficacy of "Kryotherapy". My doubt lies in I just don't believe Craig used it to get in shape for "Skyfall". Given the source of the story and the fact that Craig is naturally lean and as mentioned previously it just doesn't take that much with his body type to look good. Plus, like most actors these days, Craig probably takes pretty good care of himself in general with regular exercise and just "muscles-up" more for a Bond film. For "Cowboys and Aliens" Craig said he purposely lost weight to be leaner and somewhat gaunt to be a more convincing looking cowboy/outlaw.

Ens007

I would have thought that any Kriotherapy sessions undertaken were used primarily as an aid for recovery, (especially to minimise DOMS post workout), enabling him to train at decent intensity day in & day out. As Welshboy mentioned , the Welsh rugby team have undertaken these sessions with very good performance improvements.

In the cold light of day, nothing will make a greater impact upon his physique than his diet, with his training regime tailored to suit the requirements of the movie. Personally I preferred his CR look, as I think it matched his character portrayal extremely well & sat well with the physicality of the film. He looked in great shape in QoS too, however the leaner look doesn't have the same screen impact for me.

welshboy78

I would also like to add that I think he was most likely pumped up just prior to filming the beach scene / kidnapp scene hence looked way bigger then what he looked like in the rest of the movie in scenes when he had his shirt off. His arms and chest look pretty pumped up compared to later and before.

i.e. he prob had weights knocking about, did press ups or swam seconds / minutes prior to the film rolling to get the pumped up effect, Stallone, Arnie etc would always do this just before a take which involved their shirts off.

When I pump iron my physique can look quite impressive for the 30 mins after a gym session when the blood is pumping, unfortunately it doesn't stay that way )

David Schofield

A comination of great cameras angles, Craig naturally lean physique and Craig's own obvious natural enjoyment of hitting the gym and keeping fit, make it work.

Compare that with Brosnan's physical make-up, and, by his own admission, that he hated working out, that after filming he much prefered to relax with a beer than hit the fitness routine.

But Brosnan had the tall dark and handsome thing cracked, an area in which Craigy, erm, struggles...

Play to your strengths, then, I say (and I think EON agree).

welshboy78

David Schofield wrote:

But Brosnan had the tall dark and handsome thing cracked, an area in which Craigy, erm, struggles...

Im sure its just blokes who think this, every bird I know fancies the pants off Craig and the hysteria that beach scene caused appears to have eclipsed anything Pierce has done as 007 when it comes to women swooning over Bond. That CR pic still seems to be used on websites in 2012 when Bond is mentioned (although of course he isn't tall and dark)

David Schofield

welshboy78 wrote:

David Schofield wrote:

But Brosnan had the tall dark and handsome thing cracked, an area in which Craigy, erm, struggles...

Im sure its just blokes who think this, every bird I know fancies the pants off Craig and the hysteria that beach scene caused appears to have eclipsed anything Pierce has done as 007 when it comes to women swooning over Bond. That CR pic still seems to be used on websites in 2012 when Bond is mentioned (although of course he isn't tall and dark)

I think the Craig-as-buff-Bond has been developed and marketed brilliantly, and I'm sure you're right that Criag is fancied for his physicality by his contemporaries more than any Bond since Connery in 1965 as a consequence.

But I do think, the marketing apart, the peak Brosnan is the one would be looked at more if he entered a crowded room or bar than Craig. Medium-height with good physique is easier to do - and achieve, common place even - than tall, dark and shaving ad pretty.

But that's the secret in the marketing. EON has tuned its Bond to the current appeal of the "Everyman" look rather than the unattainable.

Gassy Man

David Schofield wrote:

welshboy78 wrote:

David Schofield wrote:

But Brosnan had the tall dark and handsome thing cracked, an area in which Craigy, erm, struggles...

Im sure its just blokes who think this, every bird I know fancies the pants off Craig and the hysteria that beach scene caused appears to have eclipsed anything Pierce has done as 007 when it comes to women swooning over Bond. That CR pic still seems to be used on websites in 2012 when Bond is mentioned (although of course he isn't tall and dark)

I think the Craig-as-buff-Bond has been developed and marketed brilliantly, and I'm sure you're right that Criag is fancied for his physicality by his contemporaries more than any Bond since Connery in 1965 as a consequence.

But I do think, the marketing apart, the peak Brosnan is the one would be looked at more if he entered a crowded room or bar than Craig. Medium-height with good physique is easier to do - and achieve, common place even - than tall, dark and shaving ad pretty.

But that's the secret in the marketing. EON has tuned its Bond to the current appeal of the "Everyman" look rather than the unattainable.

The funny thing is I've been watching Bond films with the women in my life for 30 years, and I've never seen the positive reaction that I've seen with Craig from any of the others. Most women say Connery is far more handsome as an older man than he was in his formal Bond years -- my mother once said she thought he looked like a rat when he was younger. Brosnan tends to elicit yawns from most of the women I know. They acknowledge that he is good looking but find him incredibly boring and ironically unappealing. Craig isn't so much an "Everyman" Bond as he is a throwback to the physicality of Connery, which is far more interesting to many women than looking mannequin-esque. And he is a handsome man, but just not the "suburban homecoming king" look that has pervaded cinema since the 1980s. Like Connery but unlike Brosnan, Craig also projects an internal strength, as well as confidence and charisma, that women in particular key in on. I know that if I had to choose which man to be a role model, it would be Craig.

David Schofield

Gassy Man wrote:

David Schofield wrote:

welshboy78 wrote:

Im sure its just blokes who think this, every bird I know fancies the pants off Craig and the hysteria that beach scene caused appears to have eclipsed anything Pierce has done as 007 when it comes to women swooning over Bond. That CR pic still seems to be used on websites in 2012 when Bond is mentioned (although of course he isn't tall and dark)

I think the Craig-as-buff-Bond has been developed and marketed brilliantly, and I'm sure you're right that Criag is fancied for his physicality by his contemporaries more than any Bond since Connery in 1965 as a consequence.

But I do think, the marketing apart, the peak Brosnan is the one would be looked at more if he entered a crowded room or bar than Craig. Medium-height with good physique is easier to do - and achieve, common place even - than tall, dark and shaving ad pretty.

But that's the secret in the marketing. EON has tuned its Bond to the current appeal of the "Everyman" look rather than the unattainable.

The funny thing is I've been watching Bond films with the women in my life for 30 years, and I've never seen the positive reaction that I've seen with Craig from any of the others. Most women say Connery is far more handsome as an older man than he was in his formal Bond years -- my mother once said she thought he looked like a rat when he was younger. Brosnan tends to elicit yawns from most of the women I know. They acknowledge that he is good looking but find him incredibly boring and ironically unappealing. Craig isn't so much an "Everyman" Bond as he is a throwback to the physicality of Connery, which is far more interesting to many women than looking mannequin-esque. And he is a handsome man, but just not the "suburban homecoming king" look that has pervaded cinema since the 1980s. Like Connery but unlike Brosnan, Craig also projects an internal strength, as well as confidence and charisma, that women in particular key in on. I know that if I had to choose which man to be a role model, it would be Craig.

I'd venture the whole reason those women in your life are positive about Craig is as a result of EON's marketing magic; I wonder how many would have, or indeed had(?), looked at Craig, followed his career, and thought what a handome fellow before the EON marketing machine went to work and retooled Bond in his, very different, image

I also doubt "most" women find Connery more handsome as an older more than as Bond, either...

Gala Brand

David Schofield wrote:

Gassy Man wrote:

David Schofield wrote:

I think the Craig-as-buff-Bond has been developed and marketed brilliantly, and I'm sure you're right that Criag is fancied for his physicality by his contemporaries more than any Bond since Connery in 1965 as a consequence.

But I do think, the marketing apart, the peak Brosnan is the one would be looked at more if he entered a crowded room or bar than Craig. Medium-height with good physique is easier to do - and achieve, common place even - than tall, dark and shaving ad pretty.

But that's the secret in the marketing. EON has tuned its Bond to the current appeal of the "Everyman" look rather than the unattainable.

The funny thing is I've been watching Bond films with the women in my life for 30 years, and I've never seen the positive reaction that I've seen with Craig from any of the others. Most women say Connery is far more handsome as an older man than he was in his formal Bond years -- my mother once said she thought he looked like a rat when he was younger. Brosnan tends to elicit yawns from most of the women I know. They acknowledge that he is good looking but find him incredibly boring and ironically unappealing. Craig isn't so much an "Everyman" Bond as he is a throwback to the physicality of Connery, which is far more interesting to many women than looking mannequin-esque. And he is a handsome man, but just not the "suburban homecoming king" look that has pervaded cinema since the 1980s. Like Connery but unlike Brosnan, Craig also projects an internal strength, as well as confidence and charisma, that women in particular key in on. I know that if I had to choose which man to be a role model, it would be Craig.

I'd venture the whole reason those women in your life are positive about Craig is as a result of EON's marketing magic; I wonder how many would have, or indeed had(?), looked at Craig, followed his career, and thought what a handome fellow before the EON marketing machine went to work and retooled Bond in his, very different, image

I also doubt "most" women find Connery more handsome as an older more than as Bond, either...

Wouldn't "EON's marketing Magic" also have been employed for Brosnan? I always thought PB was lacking in charisma. He was basically a small screen actor trying to fill a big screen. Look at the difference between his Thomas Crowne and Steve McQueen's, for example.

David Schofield

Gala Brand wrote:

Wouldn't "EON's marketing Magic" also have been employed for Brosnan? I always thought PB was lacking in charisma. He was basically a small screen actor trying to fill a big screen. Look at the difference between his Thomas Crowne and Steve McQueen's, for example.

I'm not sure the marketing department would have had to work quite as hard on Brosnan as they did to re-imagine Bond in Craig's image. Throughout that tv career to which you refer, Brosnan had been auditioning for Bond, had been the Bond in waiting for at least 10 years before GOLDENEYE, was of the accepted Bond type; I think VERY few people would have seen Craig in his pre-Bond careeer and say "yes, that guy should be the next James Bond".

As for Brosnan's acting and charisma, I agree there is something lacking, perhaps indeed a TV movie cheapness and lack of confidence as a consequence. Some of his interviews wreak of pretentious guff and he has a talent for cardboard overacting. Yet, in the MATADOR he is outstanding, quirky, dangerous, and while Steve McQueen has far greater screen power there are many who prefer Brosnan's THOMAS CROWN, seeing McQueen's as stylised 60s nonsense: I enjoy the Brosnan film more, but prefer McQueen's performance.

And no, I've never seen anything of McQueen in Craig, though some, apparently, have.

Gassy Man

Gala Brand wrote:

David Schofield wrote:

Gassy Man wrote:

The funny thing is I've been watching Bond films with the women in my life for 30 years, and I've never seen the positive reaction that I've seen with Craig from any of the others. Most women say Connery is far more handsome as an older man than he was in his formal Bond years -- my mother once said she thought he looked like a rat when he was younger. Brosnan tends to elicit yawns from most of the women I know. They acknowledge that he is good looking but find him incredibly boring and ironically unappealing. Craig isn't so much an "Everyman" Bond as he is a throwback to the physicality of Connery, which is far more interesting to many women than looking mannequin-esque. And he is a handsome man, but just not the "suburban homecoming king" look that has pervaded cinema since the 1980s. Like Connery but unlike Brosnan, Craig also projects an internal strength, as well as confidence and charisma, that women in particular key in on. I know that if I had to choose which man to be a role model, it would be Craig.

I'd venture the whole reason those women in your life are positive about Craig is as a result of EON's marketing magic; I wonder how many would have, or indeed had(?), looked at Craig, followed his career, and thought what a handome fellow before the EON marketing machine went to work and retooled Bond in his, very different, image

I also doubt "most" women find Connery more handsome as an older more than as Bond, either...

Wouldn't "EON's marketing Magic" also have been employed for Brosnan? I always thought PB was lacking in charisma. He was basically a small screen actor trying to fill a big screen. Look at the difference between his Thomas Crowne and Steve McQueen's, for example.

It doesn't surprise me that Barbara Broccoli apparently was the chief supporter of Craig for the role -- women, as a group, and men, as a group, often see very different things as "attractive." Men tend to fall into strict physical characteristics, and generally the cliches, whereas women often go beyond just the surface and look to the person that is projected outwardly. Brosnan doesn't really project much on screen. When one looks into his face, they see a male model who is capable of imitating a limited range of emotions. But Craig projects much more, and many of the women I know say that he is far more sexy and appealing because of it than Brosnan. Men want to say it's the muscles or the size of one's nose that makes a man attractive or some other such issues, and of course women look at body parts; but most of the women I know don't find that enough to make a man attractive, especially women who have their pick of men because they are so. Craig's masculinity has nothing to do with his height or his musculature but from the fact that he seems sincere in his masculinity -- one gets the impression that Brosnan is going through the motions but Craig is the real deal. Connery had that too. It's one of the reasons that despite Brosnan's superficial advantages, he lags behind in the opinion of many of the educated and attractive women I know.

David Schofield

Gassy Man wrote:

It's one of the reasons that despite Brosnan's superficial advantages, he lags behind in the opinion of many of the educated and attractive women I know.

It's an odd one - and perhaps something to do in away with cultural differences between the US and the UK - that over here the impression is is that Craig's appeal is more as the "bit of rough", the gym obsessed, potential dullard who compensates by ripping his shirt off at every opportunity, most of them inappropriate, to make up physically for what he lacks in mental capacity, and therefore more likely to appeal to the "less educated" woman, blue collar appeal, if you will.

Brosnan's slimmer, un-gym-enhanced figure with its "so I'm slight, take me as I am" approach would be more in keeping with broader thinking, "more educated" woman. Brosnan's all-round appeal is far more sophisticated, white collar, essentially.

The fact that Brosnan looks like he spends a lot of time admiring himself in the mirror notwothstanding, of course...

Different perceptions of masculinity, of insecurity, of vanity.

HowardB

IMO, Brosnan has aged very gracefully and has become a much better "character" actor than leading man type, especially in some of the independent films he has done.

walther p99

Its interesting to read how women differ in opinion when it comes to whose more attractive, Brosnan or Craig, Ive asked this a few times to a plethora of female friends and im pretty sure everyone of them has said Craig. This initially surprised me until i realized that Craig is more in tune with what most woman want it seems, the imperfect, rugged, manly man with a sensitive side. and like Babs said, he has that "animal magnetism" much like Sean did. plus it helps to have his famous eyes and physique.