Are we allowed to speculate when there could be spoilers if I get it right?
If so,
Might the Scottish location and Bond's past relate to events mentioned in the train conversation with Vesper where Bond references a guardian he had who paid for his education? And might much of the film be out to steal Carte Blanche's thunder/ideas by referencing Bond's enigmatic past and his parents in some way?
Just speculating... the Scottish locale is very untypical of a Bond film.
I can't wait to see this! The thought of Craig and Bardem squaring off is worth the price of the ticket alone! Add the rest of the cast and I think this will be a classic!
Are we allowed to speculate when there could be spoilers if I get it right?
If so,
Might the Scottish location and Bond's past relate to events mentioned in the train conversation with Vesper where Bond references a guardian he had who paid for his education? And might much of the film be out to steal Carte Blanche's thunder/ideas by referencing Bond's enigmatic past and his parents in some way?
Just speculating... the Scottish locale is very untypical of a Bond film.
If that is the case perhaps Albert Finney is .....
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1) Skyfall is the name of the Castle in Scotland (Bonds ancestral Home?)
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeally not Scottish.
I think it has more to do with M's sky falling in - remember, from the little synopsis at the beginning of the first post, this film is about her past.
The next twelve months are going to be agonising, roll on the teaser trailers.
I like what Moonraker 5 posted, thought of it myself to before I read his post. But the Geographical physical link has me intrigued to. Didn't somebody mention a hugh stunt taking place at the Skytower? Not sure if it's in the filming location though?
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Being as cynical as I am, I will always see the negatives first, but I'm pleased with the fantastic line up. So many great actors; Bardem alone always leaves me speechless. His role in 'No Country For Old Men' was mesmerising.
I'm quite peeved that they're not finishing off the Quantum storyline, I guess they ran out of money with the salaries alone. Can't help but feel although this is a huge compromise and that the storyline will suffer.
All in all, I recognise that there is more to discover, but I'm not left overly excited at this stage.
Also (as a Craig fanboy), I'm with Napoleon. Craig needs a shave. Looking at the IMDB images, he looks like he has just fallen out of a hedge. Not at his best!
I hear you - I'm also VERY peeved if Quantum's being left out. But I suppose they're going for a repeat of Connery. The plot of this one does sound interesting.
Also (as a Craig fanboy), I'm with Napoleon. Craig needs a shave. Looking at the IMDB images, he looks like he has just fallen out of a hedge. Not at his best!
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I also agree with both of you . He is not your classic good looking and when he hasn't got a make up artist and some vaseline on the lens he does can cut up a bit rough. Looked like he needs a good nights sleep tbh.
Reminded me of Albert Steptoe, was just waiting for him to shout out HAROLD.
To all you that love him fair shout but tbh I cannot see how anyone can see James Bond in this man.
Old man Steptoe is an old one, I think Sid James is nearer the mark these days. Worse, he seems to have bulked up to echo his CR days, but of course extra weight never makes you look younger and he looks like a bouncer. Sorry to be neg, but I find it very annoying... they pretty much had the look a two months ago. 8-)
Also (as a Craig fanboy), I'm with Napoleon. Craig needs a shave. Looking at the IMDB images, he looks like he has just fallen out of a hedge. Not at his best!
Regards,
Wilde -{
I also agree with both of you . He is not your classic good looking and when he hasn't got a make up artist and some vaseline on the lens he does can cut up a bit rough. Looked like he needs a good nights sleep tbh.
I thought so to, he really looked tired and a bit old. He does however have the ability to 'brush up' surprisingly well, and I thought he was looking at his best around the time of his recent nuptials. He does really fluctuate, and is possibly the most 'made up' Bond as the amount of makeup used is clearly visible on screen. I said in a previous post that I hope it is intentional in as much as he is meant to look a bit rough after some ordeal or other. Otherwise with filming starting yesterday I am really worried. The Proto Beard was really awful. Even Lexi would struggle to see the positive in that look I'm sure. Suit was nice though.
I think it was a mistake to have a grey background when most of the men had grey suits on. Craig also a grey shirt and tie, so not much colour which I think only helps drain colour away from your subject. ( Old photography tip ) Making him look even more Haggard. So in a way I wouldn't put all the Blame on Craig but rather whomever designed the backdrop and not offering some advive on what colours might work better against it.
I'm not his Biggest fan But think he came across better in this press conference than some in the Past, mabey becaues it was shorter or because he was part of a group and not flying solo.
I'm hoping his phrase "Making a Bond with a capital B " means a return to some feel of the older Movies, even if it's only a few Big action sequences or an Opening stunt.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I thought his hair was better, more like CR the the QoS style but yeah his stubble was terrible - I hope he wasn't in the scenes they were shooting that day!
Reminded me of Albert Steptoe, was just waiting for him to shout out HAROLD.
To all you that love him fair shout but tbh I cannot see how anyone can see James Bond in this man.
on the contrary,
the only thing Craig must do is show total comfort as the character. once he plays his Bond as a completely confident man (no fidgeting, or nervousness or wide eyed looks like we are used to seeing him perform in last two films) he will become James Bond that we all know and love.
the very last scene of QOS (him and M in the snow) confirms that he wont have much problem with this.
the (intentional) evolution of Craig's Bond in the end will be a very enternaining subject to discuss.
What is the usual delay between UK and Worldwide movie dates of Bond? Isn't it the same day?
The film opens in the United Kingdom on the 26th October, most of the European Union have the same release or the 1st November. The US and Canada have to wait two more weeks till the 9th November.
Time to get those lifts out again I think as the only person DC is taller than is Judi Dench!
That's a little phenomenon known as perspective--Craig is at the apex of a half-circle, further away from the camera than most everyone else. Plus, the women are wearing heels.
Make-up, lighting, etc, etc, they will have Craig looking looking fine. As for the stubble, he may need it for the scene being filmed or in many cases, the make-up or hair people will actually do the shaving as part of make-up prep.
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So what's the currently popular speculation on Craig's tenure, given Barbara B's comment about it lasting many more years to come, or something to that effect? He's still relatively young, particularly compared to the past Bonds when they hung up their holsters. If we can believe what he said regarding typecasting in the conference, he's not particularly worried about that happening, though with a star of his caliber, I would think typecasting is the biggest factor that would dissuade him from continuing in the role beyond even a mere 3 installments.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
I think by they press conference Craigs going to be around for a few more.
As for his age, well if this one is very successful (judging by its cast I think it will be financially very successful even if it is not great) then I hope they can knock them out at a good rate.
Maybe in a few years they will have a decent story to finish off the Quantum films
Craig wasn't a star before Bond nor will he be afterwards. There's nothing to worry about. Bond is a death sentence to most actors careers. The peak in which there's nowhere to go but down. Craig has the advantage of being known for movies unlike Brosnan for TV and Dalton for the stage. Maybe he can have some success like Connery did post Bond. If Craig is smart he knows Bond is only helping his career not holding him back.
Time to get those lifts out again I think as the only person DC is taller than is Judi Dench!
That's a little phenomenon known as perspective--Craig is at the apex of a half-circle, further away from the camera than most everyone else. Plus, the women are wearing heels.
James Bond should not be dwarfed by women wearing heels unless she herself is six feet tall barefoot.
So what's the currently popular speculation on Craig's tenure, given Barbara B's comment about it lasting many more years to come, or something to that effect? He's still relatively young, particularly compared to the past Bonds when they hung up their holsters. If we can believe what he said regarding typecasting in the conference, he's not particularly worried about that happening, though with a star of his caliber, I would think typecasting is the biggest factor that would dissuade him from continuing in the role beyond even a mere 3 installments.
Not crazy, though I see no one better around quite yet. Really, it's more the M-centric storyline, Wade and Purvis and frankly the producers that need changing more than Craig, oh maybe his makeup artist or what have you, whoever is advising him in the looks dept. He looks more how he should in his Dragon Tatoo film, about 52.
So what's the currently popular speculation on Craig's tenure, given Barbara B's comment about it lasting many more years to come, or something to that effect? He's still relatively young, particularly compared to the past Bonds when they hung up their holsters. If we can believe what he said regarding typecasting in the conference, he's not particularly worried about that happening, though with a star of his caliber, I would think typecasting is the biggest factor that would dissuade him from continuing in the role beyond even a mere 3 installments.
Not crazy, though I see no one better around quite yet. Really, it's more the M-centric storyline, Wade and Purvis and frankly the producers that need changing more than Craig, oh maybe his makeup artist or what have you, whoever is advising him in the looks dept. He looks more how he should in his Dragon Tatoo film, about 52.
For me even more worrying than DC looking terrible was the hint of yet another M centric piece.The (over) use of M in recent times has been a major drawback. Babs seems to be the dominant force once again, and it is well known that she is the major architect behind the re boot and choice of DC in the first instance as both Wilson and Campbell were not 'convinced' easily. It could of course been worse as she was at one point in favour of Sean Bean (a choice that makes DC seem like David Niven)
I am still really trying to be positive and hope for the best. I felt that EON had realised that we needed more sophistication and glamour alongside the visceral action. Recent shots of a sharp looking tanned DC with a decent hair cut and looking well rested boded well, then we get that mess of a press conference. Grey, dull, and lacking any kind of sparkle, with Babs shouting the odds....very disappointed.
I wouldn't get too cranked up over a press conference. "Movie magic" cures many a physical "shortcoming". Unfortunately we have a bad precedent for an "M" centric script in TWINE...in fact there was a run of bad scripts IMO sandwiched between GE and CR and then a regression for QOS. If the "Skyfall" script is actually good whether it involves "M" won't really matter. What matters is if it tells an interesting, exciting, compelling and coherant story. With the less than sparse knowledge we currently have of the storyline, one would hope that the "M" angle could add the interesting element of an actual spy/political thriller to the usual mix of action,violence, etc. I just don't think this is going to be a rehash of Bond rescuing "M" from a jail cell or "M" doing field work silliness....at least I hope not.
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If so,
Just speculating... the Scottish locale is very untypical of a Bond film.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
If that is the case perhaps Albert Finney is .....
I like what Moonraker 5 posted, thought of it myself to before I read his post. But the Geographical physical link has me intrigued to. Didn't somebody mention a hugh stunt taking place at the Skytower? Not sure if it's in the filming location though?
I'm quite peeved that they're not finishing off the Quantum storyline, I guess they ran out of money with the salaries alone. Can't help but feel although this is a huge compromise and that the storyline will suffer.
All in all, I recognise that there is more to discover, but I'm not left overly excited at this stage.
Also (as a Craig fanboy), I'm with Napoleon. Craig needs a shave. Looking at the IMDB images, he looks like he has just fallen out of a hedge. Not at his best!
Regards,
Wilde -{
...Still peeved about Quantum, though. I wanted to see more Mr White.
I also agree with both of you . He is not your classic good looking and when he hasn't got a make up artist and some vaseline on the lens he does can cut up a bit rough. Looked like he needs a good nights sleep tbh.
To all you that love him fair shout but tbh I cannot see how anyone can see James Bond in this man.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
I thought so to, he really looked tired and a bit old. He does however have the ability to 'brush up' surprisingly well, and I thought he was looking at his best around the time of his recent nuptials. He does really fluctuate, and is possibly the most 'made up' Bond as the amount of makeup used is clearly visible on screen. I said in a previous post that I hope it is intentional in as much as he is meant to look a bit rough after some ordeal or other. Otherwise with filming starting yesterday I am really worried. The Proto Beard was really awful. Even Lexi would struggle to see the positive in that look I'm sure. Suit was nice though.
I'm not his Biggest fan But think he came across better in this press conference than some in the Past, mabey becaues it was shorter or because he was part of a group and not flying solo.
I'm hoping his phrase "Making a Bond with a capital B " means a return to some feel of the older Movies, even if it's only a few Big action sequences or an Opening stunt.
on the contrary,
the only thing Craig must do is show total comfort as the character. once he plays his Bond as a completely confident man (no fidgeting, or nervousness or wide eyed looks like we are used to seeing him perform in last two films) he will become James Bond that we all know and love.
the very last scene of QOS (him and M in the snow) confirms that he wont have much problem with this.
the (intentional) evolution of Craig's Bond in the end will be a very enternaining subject to discuss.
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Looks like the two on the far left want to go off and make their own separate film!
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Time to get those lifts out again I think as the only person DC is taller than is Judi Dench!
The film opens in the United Kingdom on the 26th October, most of the European Union have the same release or the 1st November. The US and Canada have to wait two more weeks till the 9th November.
That's a little phenomenon known as perspective--Craig is at the apex of a half-circle, further away from the camera than most everyone else. Plus, the women are wearing heels.
As for his age, well if this one is very successful (judging by its cast I think it will be financially very successful even if it is not great) then I hope they can knock them out at a good rate.
Maybe in a few years they will have a decent story to finish off the Quantum films
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3. Lists.
James Bond should not be dwarfed by women wearing heels unless she herself is six feet tall barefoot.
Not crazy, though I see no one better around quite yet. Really, it's more the M-centric storyline, Wade and Purvis and frankly the producers that need changing more than Craig, oh maybe his makeup artist or what have you, whoever is advising him in the looks dept. He looks more how he should in his Dragon Tatoo film, about 52.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
For me even more worrying than DC looking terrible was the hint of yet another M centric piece.The (over) use of M in recent times has been a major drawback. Babs seems to be the dominant force once again, and it is well known that she is the major architect behind the re boot and choice of DC in the first instance as both Wilson and Campbell were not 'convinced' easily. It could of course been worse as she was at one point in favour of Sean Bean (a choice that makes DC seem like David Niven)
I am still really trying to be positive and hope for the best. I felt that EON had realised that we needed more sophistication and glamour alongside the visceral action. Recent shots of a sharp looking tanned DC with a decent hair cut and looking well rested boded well, then we get that mess of a press conference. Grey, dull, and lacking any kind of sparkle, with Babs shouting the odds....very disappointed.