Call me crazy the suit looks secret service like. A modern slim cut version of some old 50s 60s thing. Perhaps on film the suit looks better. I actually prefer Bond looking less fancy unless certain situations call for a higher end look. So I'm not opposed to this general direction for Bonds suits.
Don't agree that the different clothing and costume designers should be worried about switching things up. Each Bond is different including from one film to the next. Craigs Bond seems mostly current with his style which is natural for a well dressed person to be.
Times have changed and Bond has to do the same. The less suits he wears the better though. That's for pushing papers and blending into corporate environments. Bond randomly traveling in a suit for no apparent reason is a tradition thats dated, and always seemed off even back in the day. Too formal for field work.
It's not a button down collar but rather a Narrow Point Collar or Narrow Spread Collar.
Erm... NO! Its a button-down collar
NMS - I think you are refering to it being a "Tab Collar" - which is a possibility.
Because a standard "Button down" collar it is definitely not.
I think you might need to read posts 333-338.
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007.5 I looked at the Thom Sweeney site, I don't know if I want Thank you or throttle you! Its lovely! Some patterns and colours are a bit wild but I completely see what you mean. The dinner suit in slot 15 makes me think Dermot O'leary is another client, and several jackets made me wonder if Mr Craig is already a customer too. Classic yet really sharp tailoring.
Bet its all WAY out of my price range too!
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
Call me crazy the suit looks secret service like. A modern slim cut version of some old 50s 60s thing. Perhaps on film the suit looks better. I actually prefer Bond looking less fancy unless certain situations call for a higher end look. So I'm not opposed to this general direction for Bonds suits.
Don't agree that the different clothing and costume designers should be worried about switching things up. Each Bond is different including from one film to the next. Craigs Bond seems mostly current with his style which is natural for a well dressed person to be.
Times have changed and Bond has to do the same. The less suits he wears the better though. That's for pushing papers and blending into corporate environments. Bond randomly traveling in a suit for no apparent reason is a tradition thats dated, and always seemed off even back in the day. Too formal for field work.
That suit is nothing like what people wore in the 50s and 60s. But Bond belongs in a suit. Bond is a businessman working for Universal Exports. He has typically worn less formal suits in the field than for the office. Bond has his roots as a spy, not an action hero, which makes wearing a suit appropriate.
That suit is nothing like what people wore in the 50s and 60s. But Bond belongs in a suit. Bond is a businessman working for Universal Exports. He has typically worn less formal suits in the field than for the office. Bond has his roots as a spy, not an action hero, which makes wearing a suit appropriate.
Looks straight off the set of Dragnet to me, but I'm no suit enthusiast as you can tell. Like I said hopefully it looks better on screen.
Traditional business attire aside, a spy in a suit doesn't always make sense. With a spy suit at one end of the spectrum, and an action hero wife beater at the other. I think there's times when some sort of business casual falling in between would be smarter for him to wear to get both the spying and action hero-ing done.
007.5 I looked at the Thom Sweeney site, I don't know if I want Thank you or throttle you! Its lovely! Some patterns and colours are a bit wild but I completely see what you mean. The dinner suit in slot 15 makes me think Dermot O'leary is another client, and several jackets made me wonder if Mr Craig is already a customer too. Classic yet really sharp tailoring.
Bet its all WAY out of my price range too!
You're spot on in thinking that Dermot O'Leary is a client of theirs.
Have a look here at the website of his stylist Tom Stubbs.
Looks straight off the set of Dragnet to me, but I'm no suit enthusiast as you can tell. Like I said hopefully it looks better on screen.
Perhaps with this image you can see the big differences.
Lapel width isn't the only thing that dates a suit. Jack Webb's and Harry Morgan's suits fit them well. Daniel Craig's suit is too tight. Nobody in the 1950s/60s wore trouser that far below their waist. And their jackets aren't pulling open at the chest and hips. Of course, comparing American suits to something with more English influence isn't fair, but no well-dressed man in the 50's and 60's ever looked like Daniel Craig does in the picture posted earlier. I can't imagine how it could look better in the movie. Craig's suit is clearly meant for a shorter, less muscular man. The suits in Quantum of Solace were much nicer.
I prefer CR and Briony. TF suits are goods but not better than Brioni suits.
I just think that the main error of this new suits made by TF we'll see in several years. They will be riduculous.
Today, we see Goldfinger, Thunderball, From Russian With Love, Tomorrow Never Dies or Goldeneye and Connery or Brosnan aren't riduculous because their suits are classical.
How?
I think Briony's clothing is much more beautiful or better cut than Tom Ford, in addition to the price you pay for a brand you know.
Tom Ford, who is it, the assistant to a dressmaker known it ceased
The costumes and costumes for Casino Royal is just amazing
Tom Ford tried on invent the button-down with no button. Didn't need it.
Tab collars have been around since the twenties.
They can look good or bad depending on the suit and tie surrounding them. They looked great on Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman, terrible on Donald Rumsfeld. Those are just two that pop into mind. Always like them with a thirties inspired single breasted vested suit. It pulls together nicely under a vest, looks constricting without one.
Not wild about them at all on Craig, but I'm not wild about the suit either.
Tom Ford tried on invent the button-down with no button. Didn't need it.
Tab collars have been around since the twenties.
They can look good or bad depending on the suit and tie surrounding them. They looked great on Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman, terrible on Donald Rumsfeld. Those are just two that pop into mind. Always like them with a thirties inspired single breasted vested suit. It pulls together nicely under a vest, looks constricting without one.
Not wild about them at all on Craig, but I'm not wild about the suit either.
Re-invent. sorry.
If you can't trust a Swiss banker, what's the world come to?
Not a problem, but someone has always made them, whether the had to be custom or off the rack. There's a Varvatos tab collar on Bluefly so that's at least a season or two ago. I've had them from Polo, Gitman, etc, although not in several years as they haven't been popular since the early-mid nineties.
Like I said, with the right style suit and vest, they look great. With Craig's current suit, I'm not wild about them. Of course I'm a tacky American, so what do I know? )
Here's a few shots of Pacino in Scent of a Woman. Single breasted with peak lapels, vest, and tab collar. Sharp in my eyes. And miles away from a button down shirt.
Here's the difference in a tab collar and a button down. Kinda hard to confuse them.
Here's what it looks like unfastened.
Now, no jokes about it being a blind character. :v
Looks straight off the set of Dragnet to me, but I'm no suit enthusiast as you can tell. Like I said hopefully it looks better on screen.
Perhaps with this image you can see the big differences.
Lapel width isn't the only thing that dates a suit. Jack Webb's and Harry Morgan's suits fit them well. Daniel Craig's suit is too tight. Nobody in the 1950s/60s wore trouser that far below their waist. And their jackets aren't pulling open at the chest and hips. Of course, comparing American suits to something with more English influence isn't fair, but no well-dressed man in the 50's and 60's ever looked like Daniel Craig does in the picture posted earlier. I can't imagine how it could look better in the movie. Craig's suit is clearly meant for a shorter, less muscular man. The suits in Quantum of Solace were much nicer.
"MI6 understands that fashion designer and James Bond costumer Tom Ford will be making Daniel Craig's stylish clothing, as seen in the new film 'Skyfall', available to purchase in his autumn/winter collection.
So far, Craig has been spotted in a pin-stripe suit in London. Tom Ford is supplying the suits, shirts, ties, footwear and even sunglasses for 007 in this, his 23rd big screen adventure. The overcoats will not be included in the collection."
"MI6 understands that fashion designer and James Bond costumer Tom Ford will be making Daniel Craig's stylish clothing, as seen in the new film 'Skyfall', available to purchase in his autumn/winter collection.
So far, Craig has been spotted in a pin-stripe suit in London. Tom Ford is supplying the suits, shirts, ties, footwear and even sunglasses for 007 in this, his 23rd big screen adventure. The overcoats will not be included in the collection."
Hmmm. So Tom Ford sunglasses may be onscreen again, and overcoats are custom for the film wardrobe. Thanks for posting.
A guy over at the James Bond lifestyle forum thinks the Skyfall swimming trunks maybe the Orlebar Brown Setter Shorts in sky blue (based on 1950s classic design)
What you guys think?? I guess they could still be a Tom Ford copy of this style. Maybe a rep at Orlebar Brown might confirm if they provided them to DC?
Hmm a guy over on the James Bond Lifestyle forum has just uploaded a pic of his Tom Ford swimming trunks. They are not the right colour however they are practically identical to the Orlebar Settee trunks style - therefore in my opinion (especially with Orlebar neither confirming or denying) there is still a big chance they are Tom Fords (hopefully not)
A guy over at the James Bond lifestyle forum thinks the Skyfall swimming trunks maybe the Orlebar Brown Setter Shorts in sky blue (based on 1950s classic design)
What you guys think?? I guess they could still be a Tom Ford copy of this style. Maybe a rep at Orlebar Brown might confirm if they provided them to DC?
Hmm a guy over on the James Bond Lifestyle forum has just uploaded a pic of his Tom Ford swimming trunks. They are not the right colour however they are practically identical to the Orlebar Settee trunks style - therefore in my opinion (especially with Orlebar neither confirming or denying) there is still a big chance they are Tom Fords (hopefully not)
Very good chance that the trunks in the right color from Tom Ford will be coming later this year, I would guess.
Very good chance that the trunks in the right color from Tom Ford will be coming later this year, I would guess.
I'm sure that will be the case. But I would expect the cost to be at least twice that of the OB trunks. This harks back to the OP Airmans vs TF 108s discussion (that's still going on in another thread). The Airmans prove to be a superior product in design and construction, but the TFs have the provenance of being used on-screen, and that's all that many are after. I have a feeling I'll stick with the OB trunks and save my wallet for some of the other items that have yet to surface. -{
Very good chance that the trunks in the right color from Tom Ford will be coming later this year, I would guess.
I'm sure that will be the case. But I would expect the cost to be at least twice that of the OB trunks. This harks back to the OP Airmans vs TF 108s discussion (that's still going on in another thread). The Airmans prove to be a superior product in design and construction, but the TFs have the provenance of being used on-screen, and that's all that many are after. I have a feeling I'll stick with the OB trunks and save my wallet for some of the other items that have yet to surface. -{
Kind regards,
Craig
I think TF swimwear is even more expensive then 2 x Orlebars!!
Still going to pick up the Orlebars - look fantastic and I need an excuse to get in shape!
Very good chance that the trunks in the right color from Tom Ford will be coming later this year, I would guess.
I'm sure that will be the case. But I would expect the cost to be at least twice that of the OB trunks. This harks back to the OP Airmans vs TF 108s discussion (that's still going on in another thread). The Airmans prove to be a superior product in design and construction, but the TFs have the provenance of being used on-screen, and that's all that many are after. I have a feeling I'll stick with the OB trunks and save my wallet for some of the other items that have yet to surface. -{
Kind regards,
Craig
I think TF swimwear is even more expensive then 2 x Orlebars!!
Still going to pick up the Orlebars - look fantastic and I need an excuse to get in shape!
If money weren't a factor, I'd get both. The Orlebar's would be my guess of what Bond would actually buy, and the Tom Ford's would be the screen-used pair. I'd feel like I was missing out if I had two pairs of Tom Ford's and no Orlebars. Or so I tell myself now when I can't afford either. I'm in college, so maybe in a few years I'll be all over these things.
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Funny you should say that
Don't agree that the different clothing and costume designers should be worried about switching things up. Each Bond is different including from one film to the next. Craigs Bond seems mostly current with his style which is natural for a well dressed person to be.
Times have changed and Bond has to do the same. The less suits he wears the better though. That's for pushing papers and blending into corporate environments. Bond randomly traveling in a suit for no apparent reason is a tradition thats dated, and always seemed off even back in the day. Too formal for field work.
NMS - I think you are refering to it being a "Tab Collar" - which is a possibility.
Because a standard "Button down" collar it is definitely not.
I think you might need to read posts 333-338.
Bet its all WAY out of my price range too!
That suit is nothing like what people wore in the 50s and 60s. But Bond belongs in a suit. Bond is a businessman working for Universal Exports. He has typically worn less formal suits in the field than for the office. Bond has his roots as a spy, not an action hero, which makes wearing a suit appropriate.
Yes, saw it after I submitted - must read previous posts !! :-)
Traditional business attire aside, a spy in a suit doesn't always make sense. With a spy suit at one end of the spectrum, and an action hero wife beater at the other. I think there's times when some sort of business casual falling in between would be smarter for him to wear to get both the spying and action hero-ing done.
You're spot on in thinking that Dermot O'Leary is a client of theirs.
Have a look here at the website of his stylist Tom Stubbs.
http://styleanderror.co.uk/2012/01/ambassador-youre-really-spoiling-him/
Perhaps with this image you can see the big differences.
Lapel width isn't the only thing that dates a suit. Jack Webb's and Harry Morgan's suits fit them well. Daniel Craig's suit is too tight. Nobody in the 1950s/60s wore trouser that far below their waist. And their jackets aren't pulling open at the chest and hips. Of course, comparing American suits to something with more English influence isn't fair, but no well-dressed man in the 50's and 60's ever looked like Daniel Craig does in the picture posted earlier. I can't imagine how it could look better in the movie. Craig's suit is clearly meant for a shorter, less muscular man. The suits in Quantum of Solace were much nicer.
I just think that the main error of this new suits made by TF we'll see in several years. They will be riduculous.
Today, we see Goldfinger, Thunderball, From Russian With Love, Tomorrow Never Dies or Goldeneye and Connery or Brosnan aren't riduculous because their suits are classical.
I think Briony's clothing is much more beautiful or better cut than Tom Ford, in addition to the price you pay for a brand you know.
Tom Ford, who is it, the assistant to a dressmaker known it ceased
The costumes and costumes for Casino Royal is just amazing
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Tab collars have been around since the twenties.
They can look good or bad depending on the suit and tie surrounding them. They looked great on Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman, terrible on Donald Rumsfeld. Those are just two that pop into mind. Always like them with a thirties inspired single breasted vested suit. It pulls together nicely under a vest, looks constricting without one.
Not wild about them at all on Craig, but I'm not wild about the suit either.
Re-invent. sorry.
Not a problem, but someone has always made them, whether the had to be custom or off the rack. There's a Varvatos tab collar on Bluefly so that's at least a season or two ago. I've had them from Polo, Gitman, etc, although not in several years as they haven't been popular since the early-mid nineties.
Like I said, with the right style suit and vest, they look great. With Craig's current suit, I'm not wild about them. Of course I'm a tacky American, so what do I know?
Here's a few shots of Pacino in Scent of a Woman. Single breasted with peak lapels, vest, and tab collar. Sharp in my eyes. And miles away from a button down shirt.
Here's the difference in a tab collar and a button down. Kinda hard to confuse them.
Here's what it looks like unfastened.
Now, no jokes about it being a blind character. :v
Agree 100% Matt.
"MI6 understands that fashion designer and James Bond costumer Tom Ford will be making Daniel Craig's stylish clothing, as seen in the new film 'Skyfall', available to purchase in his autumn/winter collection.
So far, Craig has been spotted in a pin-stripe suit in London. Tom Ford is supplying the suits, shirts, ties, footwear and even sunglasses for 007 in this, his 23rd big screen adventure. The overcoats will not be included in the collection."
Hmmm. So Tom Ford sunglasses may be onscreen again, and overcoats are custom for the film wardrobe. Thanks for posting.
Shoes are a new item though...
Hmm a guy over on the James Bond Lifestyle forum has just uploaded a pic of his Tom Ford swimming trunks. They are not the right colour however they are practically identical to the Orlebar Settee trunks style - therefore in my opinion (especially with Orlebar neither confirming or denying) there is still a big chance they are Tom Fords (hopefully not)
Very good chance that the trunks in the right color from Tom Ford will be coming later this year, I would guess.
I'm sure that will be the case. But I would expect the cost to be at least twice that of the OB trunks. This harks back to the OP Airmans vs TF 108s discussion (that's still going on in another thread). The Airmans prove to be a superior product in design and construction, but the TFs have the provenance of being used on-screen, and that's all that many are after. I have a feeling I'll stick with the OB trunks and save my wallet for some of the other items that have yet to surface. -{
Kind regards,
Craig
I think TF swimwear is even more expensive then 2 x Orlebars!!
Still going to pick up the Orlebars - look fantastic and I need an excuse to get in shape!
If money weren't a factor, I'd get both. The Orlebar's would be my guess of what Bond would actually buy, and the Tom Ford's would be the screen-used pair. I'd feel like I was missing out if I had two pairs of Tom Ford's and no Orlebars. Or so I tell myself now when I can't afford either. I'm in college, so maybe in a few years I'll be all over these things.
Lands End... http://www.landsend.co.uk/Men%27s-Expedition-Down-Parka/P_21428,en_GB,pd.html
Wow. Good find! I wouldn't have expected Craig in Land's End...
I think this coat is perhaps a crew coat to keep DC warm between shoots rather than likely to be in the movie itself.
Yup!
Still a nice coat though {[]