Possible future Bond girls

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,127MI6 Agent
    I think Lily Cole can come across as both aloof and almost alien-like or warm and charming, all depending on acting, light, makeup etc.


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  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,413MI6 Agent
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    she's dressed like Steed and Peel's lovechild!
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,405MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Lily Cole has done well both as an actress and as a model, but she hasn't been in a big action/adventure movie yet. Now she's 32, a good age for a Bond girl and she has a striking look.

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    Channeling Mrs Peel in one shot
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Lovely Girl and I wish someone would remake the Avengers, such a great show. -{
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  • JTullock23JTullock23 ArizonaPosts: 335MI6 Agent
    For me, Lily Cole doesn't do anything for me, but if she can act well then she can fit into the part.
    "History isn't kind to men who play God." - DC "I gave him the limp." - PB "Better make that two." - TD

    "Keeping British end up, sir." - RM "This never happened to the other fellow." - JL "I must be dreaming." SC
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,405MI6 Agent
    Lovely Girl and I wish someone would remake the Avengers, such a great show. -{

    Enough with the Remakes, prequels, sequels, reimaginings, alt history. How about something new?
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,697MI6 Agent
    Absolutely ...... A new Re-make ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,127MI6 Agent
    edited October 2020
    Gemma Arterton spoke about an issue in an interview that I've been thinking about too.
    "There is a whole thing about 'strong women' now. I ask myself why? Not all women are strong"
    "I want to tell stories about all women"

    I couldn't agree more. The forcus should be on portraying interesting women, not only strong ones. A nervous wreck or a coward can be at least as interesting as a strong woman. The same goes for men, of course.
  • Royale-les-EauxRoyale-les-Eaux LondonPosts: 349MI6 Agent
    It forever makes me sad Gemma so denies her QoS turn. She was great, and gave Fields more depth than I'm sure was on the page, as she has continued to be. Particularly on stage if you ever get the chance in the post-pandemic world.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,127MI6 Agent
    edited October 2020
    I hope she'll see the experience in a more positive light in the future.
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,413MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    The focus should be on portraying interesting women, not only strong ones. A nervous wreck or a coward can be at least as interesting as a strong woman. The same goes for men, of course.
    This sounds fair, there should be a range of character types in a longrunning series, and the leather clad martial arts kicking action heroines they keep giving us all seem rather interchangeable. Similar moves, not much backstory, not much personality.
    Yet everybody complains about Stacey Sutton panicking in situations where I know I would be panicking too. Her character did behave in a realistic fashion, but somehow that annoys audiences.

    Actually maybe that's what makes characters like Elektra or Camille more interesting: they are each tough and ruthless, similar in that sense to the action heroine types, yet we know enough about their backstory, and see them behave in certain ways that reveals their trauma, that sets them apart as distinct individuals within a formulaic series.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,127MI6 Agent
    I remember Marie (Franka Potente) in The Bourne Identity when Bourne and her are attacked in his apartement. The violence is sudden and brutal. This is probably the first time Marie experiences violence of that type, and she reacts by going into shock. Many people, including men, would have reacted in the same way. I don't think it makes her a lesser person, it just makes her realistic and relatable.
    I think it was the actress' choise and it was a good one.

    I also like Vesper's reaction in the staircase fight in CR. She reacts with fear, like most people who aren't trained and experienced would have. But on the floor at the bottom when the henchman reaches for the gun, she grabs his hand tries to get the gun from him. I think this is a very good way to show what kind of person she is. Vesper isn't an agent or a soldier who is prepared for violence, but when she has to she has the courage to react and help Bond. Very good.
    I think it's good to have a Bond girl who is trained for combat, but I like it when she has other strengths and other types of courage.
  • JTullock23JTullock23 ArizonaPosts: 335MI6 Agent
    I am sure she wasn't so sad that she didn't cash the check she was paid. I too hope she changes her tune. It seems like some women have done that in the past.

    It forever makes me sad Gemma so denies her QoS turn. She was great, and gave Fields more depth than I'm sure was on the page, as she has continued to be. Particularly on stage if you ever get the chance in the post-pandemic world.
    "History isn't kind to men who play God." - DC "I gave him the limp." - PB "Better make that two." - TD

    "Keeping British end up, sir." - RM "This never happened to the other fellow." - JL "I must be dreaming." SC
  • OrnithologistOrnithologist BerlinPosts: 497MI6 Agent
    Number 24, your three previous posts have all been spot-on! There definitely is a difference between strong (i.e. interesting, multidimensional) character writing for women and generic Mary Sue "tough girls".

    Edit: Yours too, Caractacus! ;)
    "I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
    "- That is something to be afraid of."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,127MI6 Agent
    Thanks :)

    While Wai Ling's fight and action scenes were great in TND I think the character's personality was boring and she had no arch at all. Not that all characters need and arch, but compare Wai Lin to Tracy in OHMSS and Vesper in CR. Both Tracy and Veseper are flawed, but very interesting.
  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 2,011MI6 Agent
    Number 24, your three previous posts have all been spot-on! There definitely is a difference between strong (i.e. interesting, multidimensional) character writing for women and generic Mary Sue "tough girls".

    Edit: Yours too, Caractacus! ;)

    Agree. Both spot-on! {[]
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 18,127MI6 Agent

    While India must have many millions of Bond fans, we have never seen a major Bond girls from India. I think this is a shame. India has a very big movie industry and there must be a lot of beautiful and talented actresses to chose from.  Disha Patani is one of them. She's 29 years old and she's acted in ten Bollywood movies. Beautiful talent who hasn't broken into major English-language movies yet is just what the Bond series needs.






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