Bond vs nazi

schaduwoog

I would like to have a plot where Bond discovers his enemy is a Nazi. Doesn't have to be the next film, but it would be great. They have to give it an original twist. In one of the novels, there's a nazi enemy I believe.

Peppermill

Both Moonraker and Icebreaker feature this. It might be an interesting plot idea.

Sir Miles

I think we should be past this now...I wouldn't like to see a Bond film with a direct(ish) reference to Nazi's....

The Domino Effect

I agree with Sir Miles. Sadly, although there are plenty of neo-Nazis and sympathisers in the world today, to have Bond battling an actual Nazi (ie: red armband/jackboots etc) does seem a bit odd when there are plenty of other threats and of course any genuine WW2-vintage Nazi would be at least 90 years old. A villain with fascist tendencies is one thing, but then it could be argued that most fictional villains have fascist tendencies regardless of their political or megalomaniacal leanings!

Asp9mm

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Thunderpussy

Pardon?

Sir Miles

Thunderpussy wrote:

Pardon?

I think he's undecided

Asp9mm

Thunderpussy wrote:

Pardon?

I said...

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I am a tad opposed to the idea.

Sir Miles

Asp9mm wrote:

I am a tad opposed to the idea.

Well why didn't you say ? 8-)

Asp9mm

I prefer subtle and understatement.

Sir Miles

Ah...well just don't be too ambiguous

Thunderpussy

I just want to be clear, Asp9mm doesn't want Bond taking on the Nazis.
That's Indy's gig, is it not. )

Asp9mm

Thunderpussy wrote:

I just want to be clear, Asp9mm doesn't want Bond taking on the Nazis.
That's Indy's gig, is it not. )

Damn straight. He hates those guys!

always shaken

totally agree with ASP9MM no Nazis ,im sure we covered this a while ago in fact it was me that was totally opposed to the idea
the Nazis had their time ,and they blew it ,It would be totally unfair to the people of Germany ,who have made great strides to
get past this episode in their history .I know my family in sarrbruken would agree and also our very own German friends /agents
there are plenty of nut jobs that Bond could be dealing with

Number24

I think Bond vs nazis would work better in novels. I think young Bond could continue and include with a series where Bond is fighting WWII. It could also be interesting in a continuation novel. I just read a book about Prince Junio Valerio Scipione Borghese, who commanded the Italian frogmen in WWII. After WWII he attempted a coup. I think a character like him would be an interesting and formidalbel villan in the 1950's -70's.

Gassy Man

There's no problem with him battling neo-Nazis, though that was done more or less in The Quiller Memorandum. To battle a WWII Nazi would require the villain to be in his 80s at the youngest, unless they add some science fiction-y element involvement genetic experiments or something like that. But we've seen "Nazis" crop up in some form or another -- Stamper, Mortner, etc.

Peppermill

Gassy Man wrote:

There's no problem with him battling neo-Nazis, though that was done more or less in The Quiller Memorandum. To battle a WWII Nazi would require the villain to be in his 80s at the youngest, unless they add some science fiction-y element involvement genetic experiments or something like that. But we've seen "Nazis" crop up in some form or another -- Stamper, Mortner, etc.

I assumed we were talking abou Neos here.

Ens007

There's a million & one types of bad guy, devious megalomaniac or shady organisation I'd rather they pursued than any form of (Neo) Nazi bunch.

Might just be me, but I can't see the basis or need for this line of approach tbh.

Hardyboy

I think the problem with having Bond battle neo-Nazis is the same as the problem with having him battle al Qaeda--they're too real, too close to home, and even tasteless to use as villains in an escapist movie. I would only cringe seeing Bond with a dark-eyed, dark-skinned heroine being confronted by a skinhead with swastikas tattooed on his neck saying, "'Ere Bond, ya race-traitor!"

Napoleon Plural

The idea is a bit cheap. It pops up in these 1970s films that don't really convince. It is a tad tasteless too, I mean, come to think of it the only thing they'll be bringing to the table is racism and genocide, at least in WW2 movies there seems something other than that, territorial gain, you wouldn't get neo-Nazis doing being about that. Iit would be more about the even more unsavoury elements.

"The Nazis had their time and they blew it" is a summation that Laurence Olivier would have paid hard cash to narrate... )

But I would like to see a German as a Craig Bond ally, something that has never happened in Fleming novel or Bond film, and I'd nominate the actor who starred as Nikki Lauder in Rush.

DaltonFan1

I think "Nazi" is just a very cheap way of labeling the villain.
And actual neo-nazis are little more than football hooligans, well beneath Bond.
They're more suited to those ridiculous Taken films.

always shaken

"The Nazis had their time and they blew it" is a summation that Laurence Olivier would have paid hard cash to narrate... )

ah thank you very much

jasper_lamar_crabb

Sir Miles wrote:

I think we should be past this now..

If only, but nazis, fascists and the like still exist in our world today. I think we could all get behind 007 taking them on.

minigeff

I think it's a great idea!

Instead of quantum or spectre as a front company though, how about Man U footy club?

Blackleiter

jasper_lamar_crabb wrote:

fascists and the like still exist in our world today

So true, unfortunately.

Charmed & Dangerous

minigeff wrote:

I think it's a great idea!

Instead of quantum or spectre as a front company though, how about Man U footy club?

One of the things you should know about us, is that we have people everywhere. :007)

Thunderpussy

What I find funny, is That these big clubs and Other Business pay a fortune to media specalists, Who are
supposed to be experts in the field. Yet still Time after Time slip up with something that thay can see nothing
wrong with. )
There is a Great comedy on BBC radio 4 " Clare in the Community" this week almost as an example, they had
someone make up a poster for a night listening to Children plaving violins. Luckily someone pointed out the
flyer they had printed would cause a lot of problems as it stated,
" Fancy a nights Kiddie Fiddling " )

minigeff

Reminds of a college project to design a drinks vessel. The usual and expected mugs, cups, beakers and bottles were aplenty.

My mates boat with 'Pepsi' written on the side was quite unique though.

The Domino Effect

I could just see Alex Ferguson stroking a cat. Just a shame he had a falling-out with Keano because he'd have been a great henchman!

schaduwoog

Yes I meant Neo nazis. Thnx for The Quiller Memorandum. Never heard of it, Im gonna watch it some day soon.

welshboy78

Bond Vs Simon Cowell

Thats the rumours ive heard!!