Which Films have the best and worst scores?

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 30,783Chief of Staff
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 SwitzerlandPosts: 870MI6 Agent
    For me there is no "worst" or "best" score. There is something good in all of the scores to find.

    Overall if I must choose, I'd say TLD is the best and Skyfall is the worst.

    Skyfall because it could be ANY common action movie score, nothing in there that identifies Bond.
    And I am saying this as a fan of Thomas Newman in general.

    Here is a list of some of my favourite tracks from the 24 soundtracks:

    007-John Barry (FRWL & TB)

    Capsule In Space-John Barry (YOLT)

    OHMSS-John Barry (this is the best piece of instrumental music ever and even one of the best tracks ever and I absolutely LOVE the Propellerhead's version of it)

    Bond Meets Solitaire-George Martin (LALD)

    Bond77-Marvin Hamlisch (TSWLM)

    The Palace Fight-John Barry (OP)

    Snow Job-John Barry (AVTAK)

    Necros Attacks-John Barry (TLD)
    Ice Chase-John Barry (TLD)

    The GoldenEye Overture - Eric Serra

    Backseat Driver-Propellerheads (TND)

    Come In 007, Your Time Is Up-David Arnold (TWINE)
    Ice Bandits-David Arnold (TWINE)

    Hovercraft Chase-David Arnold (DAD)

    Night At The Opera-David Arnold (QOS)

    Grand Bazaar Istanbul-Thomas Newman (SF)

    Backfire-Thomas Newman (SP)


    Furthermore I absolutely love:
    Where Has Everybody's Gone & If There Was A Man-The Pretenders (TLD)
    James Bond Theme-Moby (TND)
    James Bond Theme-Paul Oakenfold (DAD)
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  • MilleniumForceMilleniumForce LondonPosts: 1,214MI6 Agent
    Best:

    LALD
    TSWLM
    FYEO
    AVTAK
    LTK
    GE
    TND
    DAD
    CR

    Worst:
    TMWTGG
    SP (Purely for its lack of originality)
    1.LTK 2.AVTAK 3.OP 4.FYEO 5.TND 6.LALD 7.GE 8.GF 9.TSWLM 10.SPECTRE 11.SF 12.MR 13.YOLT 14.TLD 15.CR (06) 16.TMWTGG 17.TB 18.FRWL 19.TWINE 20.OHMSS 21.DAF 22.DAD 23.QoS 24.NSNA 25.DN 26.CR (67)
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,520MI6 Agent
    I'm going to update mine after Spectre, since it deserves to be amongst the worst.

    Top 5:
    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Moonraker
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Octopussy
    5. Diamonds Are Forever

    Bottom 5.
    20. Dr. No
    21. Licence to Kill
    22. Skyfall
    23. GoldenEye
    24. Spectre

    Ranking the scores is much easier than ranking the films! To complete them:

    6. You Only Live Twice
    7. A View to a Kill
    8. Thunderball
    9. Goldfinger
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    11. From Russia with Love
    12. The Man with the Golden Gun
    13. Live and Let Die
    14. The Spy Who Loved Me
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. The World Is Not Enough
    17. Quantum of Solace
    18. Casino Royale
    19. Die Another Day

    The bottom five are far below the rest. FYEO is a tricky one because I love the music but I don't like it in the context of a Bond film.
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  • OddjoblofeldraxorinOddjoblofeldraxorin CaliforniaPosts: 195MI6 Agent
    This list is nearly the same as mine would be. -{ Although I do like the QOS soundtrack just for that opera house track.
    Matt S wrote:
    I'm going to update mine after Spectre, since it deserves to be amongst the worst.

    Top 5:
    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Moonraker
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Octopussy
    5. Diamonds Are Forever

    Bottom 5.
    20. Dr. No
    21. Licence to Kill
    22. Skyfall
    23. GoldenEye
    24. Spectre

    Ranking the scores is much easier than ranking the films! To complete them:

    6. You Only Live Twice
    7. A View to a Kill
    8. Thunderball
    9. Goldfinger
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    11. From Russia with Love
    12. The Man with the Golden Gun
    13. Live and Let Die
    14. The Spy Who Loved Me
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. The World Is Not Enough
    17. Quantum of Solace
    18. Casino Royale
    19. Die Another Day

    The bottom five are far below the rest. FYEO is a tricky one because I love the music but I don't like it in the context of a Bond film.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,520MI6 Agent
    This list is nearly the same as mine would be. -{ Although I do like the QOS soundtrack just for that opera house track.
    Matt S wrote:
    I'm going to update mine after Spectre, since it deserves to be amongst the worst.

    Top 5:
    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Moonraker
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Octopussy
    5. Diamonds Are Forever

    Bottom 5.
    20. Dr. No
    21. Licence to Kill
    22. Skyfall
    23. GoldenEye
    24. Spectre

    Ranking the scores is much easier than ranking the films! To complete them:

    6. You Only Live Twice
    7. A View to a Kill
    8. Thunderball
    9. Goldfinger
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    11. From Russia with Love
    12. The Man with the Golden Gun
    13. Live and Let Die
    14. The Spy Who Loved Me
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. The World Is Not Enough
    17. Quantum of Solace
    18. Casino Royale
    19. Die Another Day

    The bottom five are far below the rest. FYEO is a tricky one because I love the music but I don't like it in the context of a Bond film.

    Yes, that is a brilliant track! It's reminiscent of some of Barry's best tracks.
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  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 398MI6 Agent
    Best (Not from best to worst)
    GF
    TB
    OHMSS
    TMWTGG
    AVTAK
    TLD
    LTK
    GE
    TND
    DAD
    CR
    QoS

    Worst:
    Sp

    Just because it's so lazy, I do think the others are fine.
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  • AndrewJK007AndrewJK007 Posts: 9MI6 Agent
    Gotta say, Newman has absolutely done it for me, and my two favorites for the whole series are Skyfall and Spectre. Love every track, I have played every track on Skyfall more than a hundred times, and Spectre will soon have the same effect. Skyfall has consistently been my most listened to score for any movie in my life, the movie is my all time favorite and the score has as profound an impact on me as the film does. The Spectre score is just a cut below it, probably only because its a month old, but it stacks up real well. Here's my full ranking:

    1. Skyfall - Thomas Newman
    2. Spectre -Thomas Newman
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - John Barry
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies - David Arnold
    5. Goldfinger - John Barry
    6. Quantum of Solace - David Arnold
    7. Casino Royale - David Arnold
    8. Thunderball - John Barry
    9. Goldeneye - Eric Serra
    10. A View To A Kill - John Barry

    Only score I really dislike is Michael Kamen's Licence to Kill. Love his work on Die Hard, but his score for Bond, as well as the movie, belonged in a franchise. Any other 80's action movie trying to rival Die Hard.
    1. Sf 2. Cr 3. Ge 4. Gf 5. Tnd 6. Frwl 7. Qos 8. Dn 9. Ohmss 10. Avtak 11. Tb 12. Tswlm 13. Fyeo 14. Dad 15. Sp 16. Lald 17. Yolt 18. Ltk 19. Twine 20. Tld 21. Daf 22. Tmwtgg 23. Op 24. Mr
  • IcePakIcePak Perth, Western AustraliaPosts: 142MI6 Agent
    Best:
    The Living Daylights - John Barry
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - John Barry
    A View to a Kill - John Barry
    You Only Live Twice - John Barry
    For Your Eyes Only - Bill Conti

    Worst:
    Dr No - Monty Norman
    The Spy Who Loved Me - Marvin Hamlisch
    Licence to Kill - Michael Kamen

    Guilty Pleasures:
    The Man With the Golden Gun - John Barry
    Goldeneye - Eric Serra
    1. CR 2 OHMSS 3. TSWLM 4. SF 5. TLD 6. GE
    7. FRwL 8. FYEO 9. LtK 10. TMwtGG 11. OP 12. TND
    13. AVtaK 14. GF 15. SP 16. TB 17. TWiNE 18. DN
    19. MR 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. QoS 23. DAD 24. DaF
  • BruceMurdockBruceMurdock OhioPosts: 133MI6 Agent
    Top 5 Favorites

    1. A View To A Kill
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. GoldenEye
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies
    5. You Only Live Twice

    Good overall everything else.

    Top 5 Worst
    1. Never Say Never Again (Just going by scores it's the absolute worst.)
    2. Spectre.
    3. Dr. No.
    4. The Spy Who Loved Me.
    5. Skyfall.
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  • IanTIanT Posts: 567MI6 Agent
    I was driving to work yesterday and turned on the radio to hear "Nobody Does It Better" on Smooth FM. So I listened to it until it finished before switching to Heart FM (my preferred morning station).

    They were discussing the best Bond themes!!!! What are the chances?????

    So my top 5:

    1. OHMSS
    2. LALD
    3. Goldeneye
    4. Nobody Does It Better
    5. You Know My Name

    Worst:

    1. Dr No
    2. Moonraker
    3. Die Another Day
    4. Diamonds Are Forever
    5. You Only Live Twice
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,520MI6 Agent
    IanT wrote:
    I was driving to work yesterday and turned on the radio to hear "Nobody Does It Better" on Smooth FM. So I listened to it until it finished before switching to Heart FM (my preferred morning station).

    They were discussing the best Bond themes!!!! What are the chances?????

    So my top 5:

    1. OHMSS
    2. LALD
    3. Goldeneye
    4. Nobody Does It Better
    5. You Know My Name

    Worst:

    1. Dr No
    2. Moonraker
    3. Die Another Day
    4. Diamonds Are Forever
    5. You Only Live Twice

    Wrong thread. This is for scores, not themes.
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  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    The best: OHMSS, with YOLT a close second.

    The worst: Goldeneye
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,392MI6 Agent
    Gotta say, Newman has absolutely done it for me, and my two favorites for the whole series are Skyfall and Spectre. Love every track, I have played every track on Skyfall more than a hundred times, and Spectre will soon have the same effect. Skyfall has consistently been my most listened to score for any movie in my life, the movie is my all time favorite and the score has as profound an impact on me as the film does. The Spectre score is just a cut below it, probably only because its a month old, but it stacks up real well. Here's my full ranking:

    1. Skyfall - Thomas Newman
    2. Spectre -Thomas Newman
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - John Barry
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies - David Arnold
    5. Goldfinger - John Barry
    6. Quantum of Solace - David Arnold
    7. Casino Royale - David Arnold
    8. Thunderball - John Barry
    9. Goldeneye - Eric Serra
    10. A View To A Kill - John Barry

    Only score I really dislike is Michael Kamen's Licence to Kill. Love his work on Die Hard, but his score for Bond, as well as the movie, belonged in a franchise. Any other 80's action movie trying to rival Die Hard.
    Too bad its been nearly a year since his last post. Would love to know how the SF score had a profound impact on him. I love the score too but I don't think its transcendent or anything.
  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    What I love from Barry' scores, is that when you hear them, it really distinguishes the theme/location of the films.

    If I hear YOLT (my favourite) I really see Japan, it has such a strong Japan vibe
    When I hear DAF, the sounds he uses, I cannot help to think of Diamonds
    MR, another classic, you think of space and Sci-Fi

    even his worst one, TMWTGG, you totally picture yourself in Asia.

    That is a gift, to really have such a strong connection between music and the movies. All the other sountracks in comparisson are quite generic in my eyes. That said, I do like some of them: TND ranks as one of the best soundtracks out there. I love the LALD soundtrack also, as well as the CR soundtrack and even the TSWLM soundtrack is good.

    But Barry is a class of his own. The best ones are YOLT, OHMSS and DAF I think. MR and GF complete the top 5.
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • Mr SnowMr Snow Station "J" JamaicaPosts: 1,733MI6 Agent
    Good summation Mr_Osato. Although I'd disagree with you if you think TB is generic but as you say in your eyes.

    For mine TB is the best Bond soundtrack and when I listen to it I always think of the Bahamas and the underwater scenes and Café Martinique is simply magnificent. Similarly with DR. No I always think of Jamaica. Not a great soundtrack by any means but is OK on a summer's night. -{
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,406MI6 Agent
    Mr_Osato wrote:
    What I love from Barry' scores, is that when you hear them, it really distinguishes the theme/location of the films.

    Arnold achieves this also, particularly in the qos score ( which I think is his best work) if you listen " Talamone" you'll hear a mandolin in the background, both the Haiti and Bolivia tracks have that same Barry location feel, in fact when I heard the Spectre soundtrack " Los muertos vivos estan" I thought it sounded familiar almost like " Bolivian taxi ride"
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  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    OGG007 wrote:
    Good summation Mr_Osato. Although I'd disagree with you if you think TB is generic but as you say in your eyes.

    For mine TB is the best Bond soundtrack and when I listen to it I always think of the Bahamas and the underwater scenes and Café Martinique is simply magnificent. Similarly with DR. No I always think of Jamaica. Not a great soundtrack by any means but is OK on a summer's night. -{

    I think the other composers that were not mentioned to be generic. Not other Barry soundtracks. They are all brilliant in it's own way. Apologies for the confusion.
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • DutchJamesBondFanDutchJamesBondFan the NetherlandsPosts: 398MI6 Agent
    I think Barry and Arnold both did a great job. I thought of the scores I wanted to point out and then I thought that well: actually I love almost all the Bond scores. Even GE has a score that's great IMO. All the movies have such a specific vibe around them. If I must choose one Bond film that I think that hasn't such a great score then would that be DN. Too loud, don't really like that one. CR is my favourite.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,406MI6 Agent
    Does anyone know what Nicholas Dodd s involvement with the casino royale score was? Was this soundtrack a true collaboration between Arnold and Dodd as the copy I have pretty much credits Dodd with most of the pieces.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,520MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Does anyone know what Nicholas Dodd s involvement with the casino royale score was? Was this soundtrack a true collaboration between Arnold and Dodd as the copy I have pretty much credits Dodd with most of the pieces.

    Arnold composed the music and Dodd orchestrated and conducted it. I believe he did the same for all of Arnold's scores.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,406MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Does anyone know what Nicholas Dodd s involvement with the casino royale score was? Was this soundtrack a true collaboration between Arnold and Dodd as the copy I have pretty much credits Dodd with most of the pieces.

    Arnold composed the music and Dodd orchestrated and conducted it. I believe he did the same for all of Arnold's scores.
    Thanks Matt -{
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,406MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Does anyone know what Nicholas Dodd s involvement with the casino royale score was? Was this soundtrack a true collaboration between Arnold and Dodd as the copy I have pretty much credits Dodd with most of the pieces.

    Arnold composed the music and Dodd orchestrated and conducted it. I believe he did the same for all of Arnold's scores.
    Thanks Matt -{
    I was curious why Dodd essentially shares credit for the soundtracks but is never really mentioned.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,520MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Matt S wrote:

    Arnold composed the music and Dodd orchestrated and conducted it. I believe he did the same for all of Arnold's scores.
    Thanks Matt -{
    I was curious why Dodd essentially shares credit for the soundtracks but is never really mentioned.

    But he doesn't share credit. His name is not on the album covers for the soundtracks. I just looked at the CR soundtrack and Dodd is neither mentioned on the front nor the back.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,406MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Thanks Matt -{
    I was curious why Dodd essentially shares credit for the soundtracks but is never really mentioned.

    But he doesn't share credit. His name is not on the album covers for the soundtracks. I just looked at the CR soundtrack and Dodd is neither mentioned on the front nor the back.

    Well when I originally downloaded the album it was filed under " David Arnold and Nicholas Dodd " my cd makes no mention of Dodd but a new Download has Dodd under every track.... Unlike qos.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,520MI6 Agent
    Dodd is the conductor, so technically can classify as the performer. Kind of like Star Wars music was written by John Williams but performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. It's not like in pop music where only the performer matters. Film scores typically place the composer as the artist, and conductors (when not the score composer) don't typically get this much credit. Whoever wrote the metadata for these tracks thought to credit the conductor more prominently than what is usually done. Downloads can credit things in odd ways that don't really make sense. Look at the CD album for how things should properly be credited.
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  • lotuslotus englandPosts: 287MI6 Agent
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    Some people dont like this soundtrack..... but ive always loved it....... a bit of vinyl on a sunday chill out
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 30,783Chief of Staff
    I've loved TMWTGG since I bought it on vinyl in 1974! Nowadays I listen to the CD. It's not Barry's best OST, it isn't even his best Bond OST, but there's plenty to enjoy here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNPRAGQANM is always fun!

    And this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39i8dqlg7Mw
    was my introduction to the notion of lietmotif!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,696MI6 Agent
    I remember buying my first copy of it in Woolworths :D
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 30,783Chief of Staff
    I can't remember (not surprisingly, it was a long time ago) but I may have bought mine there too!
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