Dalton is amazing in Licence to Kill

Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
edited June 2015 in The James Bond Films
Just finished watching this one again and it had been a little while since I had last seen it. I've always liked Dalton as Bond, however he's never been a favourite of mine out of the 6 actors. Though after watching Licence to Kill again I must say that he is brilliant in this film. I think he is good in The Living Daylights as well, however in that case the role wasn't written specifically for him and as a result of this I feel that he is not quite as effective as he is here. With the writer's tailoring LTK for him it really brings out his good qualities and even though Bond is a hard, angry bastard in this one, Dalton still portrays moments of warmth (his interactions with Q) and of sheer coolness (His scenes in the Casino). Man it would have been great to have seen him do a third!
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    I couldn't agree more :) He gave his best Performance in LTK.

    It's a bloody shame that he never got to make his third Film :#
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  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    I must say I definitely have a soft spot for Licence to Kill now :)) It is a shame! Wasn't there a 30 or 40 page treatment of his 3rd that never eventuated?
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    edited June 2015
    A basic Outline of it was released.

    http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/The_Property_of_A_Lady_(film)
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  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    AlphaOmegaSin wrote:
    A basic Outline of it was released. It's on the Net somewhere.


    I'll have to check it out :)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Yes no arguments from me {[] As far as I'm concerned Dalton
    Nailed it. He put the literary Bond on screen. -{ love his dilevery
    Of so many lines, and far from the " misty eyed" that some see, I
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  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    I just read the brief "Property of A Lady" outline and it sounds like it could have been something! Obviously it sounds like some of the elements made it into Goldeneye in one way or another, however Bond's older mentor sounds very interesting, and the Hong Kong setting would have been very cool :)) Particularly in the early 90s with Dalton.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    It's no secret that I am a Timboy. :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    It's no secret that I am a Timboy. :))

    1+

    We have People everywhere :D
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  • DevilMayCare007DevilMayCare007 Posts: 196MI6 Agent
    I just don't see it, somebody please explain how his performance in Licence to Kill is better than TLD. I haven't read all the novels , but I'm sure Bond isn't angry throughout the novels. In TLD he was Bond and in LTK he was trying to play Bond.
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    DevilMayCare007 wrote:
    In TLD he was Bond and in LTK he was trying to play Bond.
    He was angry vengeful Bond in LTK, a side we never fully saw before.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • DevilMayCare007DevilMayCare007 Posts: 196MI6 Agent
    But did we see that in TLD ?
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    DevilMayCare007 wrote:
    But did we see that in TLD ?
    A hint of it with Saunders...
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    DevilMayCare007 wrote:
    But did we see that in TLD ?

    He was angry when Saunders died.

    But LTK had some of his best Lines and Scenes. Just my Opinion of course :) -{
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

    But LTK had some of his best Lines
    "Problem eliminator..." B-)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Absolutely_CartAbsolutely_Cart NJ/NYC, United StatesPosts: 1,740MI6 Agent
    Without a doubt. Dalton is a great Bond.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,690MI6 Agent
    Dalton is in fact the best Bond. -{
    "The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
  • The Wicker ManThe Wicker Man EnglandPosts: 434MI6 Agent
    As much as I love Roger Moore it was when Dalton took over the reins that Bond became believable again. To me Dalton's performance in LTK is awesome and it's one of the main reasons I rate the film so highly. He is out for revenge and I totally believe it. But he could do subtle as well - as seen after Felix and Della's wedding when he reluctantly takes Della's garter. Yes Dalton is amazing in LTK -{
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Silhouette Man wrote:
    Dalton is in fact the best Bond. -{

    Same Wave Length :))
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  • Agent LeeAgent Lee Posts: 254MI6 Agent
    Revolver66 wrote:
    Just finished watching this one again and it had been a little while since I had last seen it. I've always liked Dalton as Bond, however he's never been a favourite of mine out of the 6 actors. Though after watching Licence to Kill again I must say that he is brilliant in this film. I think he is good in The Living Daylights as well, however in that case the role wasn't written specifically for him and as a result of this I feel that he is not quite as effective as he is here. With the writer's tailoring LTK for him it really brings out his good qualities and even though Bond is a hard, angry bastard in this one, Dalton still portrays moments of warmth (his interactions with Q) and of sheer coolness (His scenes in the Casino). Man it would have been great to have seen him do a third!

    Couldn't agree more. Though it was Connery's bond that intrigued me most as a kid, Dalton's performance in Licence to Kill was a revelation when I saw it for the first time. He was great in TLD, but his performance in LTK was the one that carried my interest in Bond into my teenage years and turned me on to the vivid complexities of the character.
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  • Silhouette ManSilhouette Man The last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,690MI6 Agent
    AlphaOmegaSin wrote:
    Silhouette Man wrote:
    Dalton is in fact the best Bond. -{

    Same Wave Length :))

    Yes, it's nice when that happens, isn't it? :)
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,796MI6 Agent
    Dalton was a great Bond :007)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Where's Higgins?
    :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    It's probably for the Best that he doesn't see this :))
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  • Lady IceLady Ice Posts: 279MI6 Agent
    For me, what makes Timothy Dalton so good is that he plays Bond as a man, not a fantasy figure. Men could imagine themselves as Connery or Moore, whereas Dalton (and then Craig later) made him his own character, which is perhaps why he is disliked by some, for being not as easy to identify with.

    Lazenby showed hints of Bond actually becoming his own character (that end scene of OHMSS is so moving)- it's a shame that he didn't have the charisma for the role.
  • AlphaOmegaSinAlphaOmegaSin EnglandPosts: 10,924MI6 Agent
    Very good first Post :)

    And welcome Lady Ice {[]

    You may want to look at this Sticky first

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Dalton's movies are like fine old wine- you don't guzzle it. You save it for special occasions and such. It's been too long since my last special occasion....
    B-)
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Dalton tempered the Shakespeare thing in this film. I like him as Bond, but the movie is still uneven.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,061MI6 Agent
    Gassy Man wrote:
    Dalton tempered the Shakespeare thing in this film. I like him as Bond, but the movie is still uneven.
    Bond is the most important of any Bond movie.
    To ME. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • Revolver66Revolver66 Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 470MI6 Agent
    DevilMayCare007 wrote:
    I just don't see it, somebody please explain how his performance in Licence to Kill is better than TLD. I haven't read all the novels , but I'm sure Bond isn't angry throughout the novels. In TLD he was Bond and in LTK he was trying to play Bond.

    Hmmm no i'd have to disagree with this one. In fact I feel the opposite. In TLD he seems more like he's trying to play Bond, whereas in LTK in seems far more at ease in the part, and his performance is more effortless and convincing.
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