Possible secret behind Andrew Scott's character (Speculation)

Dutchfinger

(First off: I did NOT read the script, this is pure speculation)

I ran across a friend that is active on the MI6 forums. He is convinced that Christopher Waltz isn't playing Blofeld, but Andrew Scott's character is. While I am personally one of the people that thinks even though Christopher Waltz is the most likely character to play Blofeld, and would prefer to see him in that role. His theory behind it was very intresting though!


Scott's character name is Denbigh. Denbigh's old English meaning is "small fortified field" (Or small Fortress).
The meaning of Bleuchamp is also "Small fortified field" (Or small Fortress). Coincidence??

You discuss !

Bondage007

I couldn't resist clicking the thread. Yes I believe Calvin Dyson mentioned it would be cool if Denbeigh were Blofeld, because Waltz is too obvious. I don't know the answer either.

Strangeways

It is unlikely that Waltz would agree to do more than one film. However, if Blofeld is indeed to be in SPECTRE then they would probably want the character to return and so maybe Andrew Scott has already agreed to do another movie!

Thunderpussy

Several of us on here have said for ages that Denbigh may be more
of a villain than first thought ( once again only guessing ) Andrew
Scott, is also a terrific actor. So with either actor we'll not be short
changed in the acting talents. -{

Dutchfinger

Yes I was very aware of the speculation behind his character, however I did not know about the meaning of the name "Denbigh" having the same meaning as the name 'Bleuchamp". That could be something serious they're doing there!

Matt S

I'm not sure I care for the idea of an Irish Blofeld. However, we've never had a Polish Blofeld like in the books. Eric Pohlmann was the closest, and he was from Vienna like Christoph Waltz.

Thunderpussy

Sorry Dutchfinger, I forgot to add that the history behind the names
was very interesting and I too had no idea of the meaning behind
them. -{
Matt S, what's the problem with an Irish actor ? Do you expect Blofeld to
Appear dressed as a Leprechaun, with a ginger beard and a pig under his arm ? 8-)
Andrew Scott if a fine actor ( Sherlock) for example, and like many actors can do many
Accents.
Luckily I live in the 21st Century, so an actors Race, religion or ethnicity, play no part
In my like or disliking him.
You also dislike Daniel Craig as Bond, so is it because he's English ?
I don't intend to get into a debate over this, I'll just avoid the subject from now on
Other than to say my favourite Blofeld was Telly Savalas, who was a Greek American,
Not that it makes a difference to me Where he was from, whatever God he believed in
Or whom he liked to sleep with.

HatThrowingHenchman

I think Christoph Waltz's character is the head of SPECTRE for sure,the trailer pretty much tells us.there are some minor hints that he's Blofeld,too.
Denbigh I see rarher as a mole in a high governmental position, sort of a rouge agent for SPECTRE. don't thing and I am 99% sure that he is not the grand leader!

btw here's the Blofeld suggested ) :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJznTAwLSY
no, just kidding -{

Matt S

Thunderpussy wrote:

Sorry Dutchfinger, I forgot to add that the history behind the names
was very interesting and I too had no idea of the meaning behind
them. -{
Matt S, what's the problem with an Irish actor ? Do you expect Blofeld to
Appear dressed as a Leprechaun, with a ginger beard and a pig under his arm ? 8-)
Andrew Scott if a fine actor ( Sherlock) for example, and like many actors can do many
Accents.
Luckily I live in the 21st Century, so an actors Race, religion or ethnicity, play no part
In my like or disliking him.
You also dislike Daniel Craig as Bond, so is it because he's English ?
I don't intend to get into a debate over this, I'll just avoid the subject from now on
Other than to say my favourite Blofeld was Telly Savalas, who was a Greek American,
Not that it makes a difference to me Where he was from, whatever God he believed in
Or whom he liked to sleep with.

There's nothing wrong at all with an Irish actor, and I have no problem with Andrew Scott. I did not mean for my comment to be offensive, but I also don't understand how I'm hating on people for their race, religion or ethnicity. I think you're totally out of line by accusing me of many things I haven't said. If Andrew Scott is Blofeld and switches to a German or Polish accent when he becomes Blofeld, I'd be fine with that. Telly Savalas was a fantastic Blofeld, but I don't think his slightly New York accent was right for Blofeld.

Thunderpussy

I haven't Quoted you anywhere , so where have I accused you in my post ?
All my remarks come from my viewpoint, and my opinions.
" I'm not sure I care for the idea of an Irish Blofeld" your words, people can
Take from it what they will.

Matt S

Thunderpussy wrote:

I haven't Quoted you anywhere , so where have I accused you in my post ?
All my remarks come from my viewpoint, and my opinions.
" I'm not sure I care for the idea of an Irish Blofeld" your words, people can
Take from it what they will.

You accused me of not liking Daniel Craig purely because he is English. You also implied that I hate people based on their religion and race, when what I said made no mention of those things. You are completely free to dislike me, but to accuse me of things I haven't said is unwarranted.

Matt S

If an American were cast for James Bond, I think most people here would not be happy with that. Would you accuse those people of being racists?

Thunderpussy

In my post all I did was ask questions, if you perceive yourself as you
Say I described you, perhaps . That has more to do with how you perceive
Yourself.
As Once again I did not accuse you of anything, I simply asked a few questions.

Dutchfinger

HatThrowingHenchman wrote:

I think Christoph Waltz's character is the head of SPECTRE for sure,the trailer pretty much tells us.there are some minor hints that he's Blofeld,too.
Denbigh I see rarher as a mole in a high governmental position, sort of a rouge agent for SPECTRE. don't thing and I am 99% sure that he is not the grand leader!

I'm with you on that one myself. But I did found the link between the name Denbigh and Bleuchamp to be a very remarkable one! It could all be coincidence of course, but I wouldn't be suprised if the filmmaker actually gave the name 'Denbigh" some thought themselves.

Matt S

Thunderpussy wrote:

In my post all I did was ask questions, if you perceive yourself as you
Say I described you, perhaps . That has more to do with how you perceive
Yourself.
As Once again I did not accuse you of anything, I simply asked a few questions.

Then I will answer your questions.

Thunderpussy wrote:

Matt S, what's the problem with an Irish actor ?

Irish actors speak with Irish accents. They wouldn't hire a brilliant actor like Andrew Scott if they wanted him to speak with a Central or Eastern European accent that would reflect the literary character's background.

Thunderpussy wrote:

Do you expect Blofeld to
Appear dressed as a Leprechaun, with a ginger beard and a pig under his arm ? ajb007/rolleyes

Absolutely not. For you to suggest that is what Irish people are is offensive.

Thunderpussy wrote:

You also dislike Daniel Craig as Bond, so is it because he's English ?

This question is far more than asking a question. This is accusing me of not liking Daniel Craig simply because he is English. To answer your question, I dislike Daniel Craig because he shows no personality or emotion as Bond, not because he is English. My favourite James Bond, Roger Moore, is English.

Thunderpussy

There you go questions answered, Thank you -{ I can now
Understand your reasoning behind your statement.

superdaddy

Thunderpussy wrote:

Sorry Dutchfinger, I forgot to add that the history behind the names
was very interesting and I too had no idea of the meaning behind
them. -{
Matt S, what's the problem with an Irish actor ? Do you expect Blofeld to
Appear dressed as a Leprechaun, with a ginger beard and a pig under his arm ? 8-)
Andrew Scott if a fine actor ( Sherlock) for example, and like many actors can do many
Accents.
Luckily I live in the 21st Century, so an actors Race, religion or ethnicity, play no part
In my like or disliking him.
You also dislike Daniel Craig as Bond, so is it because he's English ?
I don't intend to get into a debate over this, I'll just avoid the subject from now on
Other than to say my favourite Blofeld was Telly Savalas, who was a Greek American,
Not that it makes a difference to me Where he was from, whatever God he believed in
Or whom he liked to sleep with.

there you go again TP bringing sex into everything ) )

Thunderpussy

) Well it is my specialist subject ........ Talking about it, not doing it

Miles Messervy

Just because Andrew Scott and/or the name of his character is Irish doesn't mean his (hypothetical) Blofeld would be Irish. Not that there's anything wrong with Irish people

Thunderpussy

Apologies to Dutchfinger for slightly kidnapping his thread. .
So .... Your OP.

(First off: I did NOT read the script, this is pure speculation)
I ran across a friend that is active on the MI6 forums. He is convinced that Christopher Waltz isn't playing Blofeld, but Andrew Scott's character is. While I am personally one of the people that thinks even though Christopher Waltz is the most likely character to play Blofeld, and would prefer to see him in that role. His theory behind it was very intresting though!

Scott's character name is Denbigh. Denbigh's old English meaning is "small fortified field" (Or small Fortress).
The meaning of Bleuchamp is also "Small fortified field" (Or small Fortress). Coincidence??
You discuss !

I think it's a very interesting use of name, and surley not a coincidence. Spectre as
Well as being action packed, with a world class acting team. Will obviously have
Some of us guessing for ages. -{

Bleuville

Dutchfinger wrote:

(First off: I did NOT read the script, this is pure speculation)

I ran across a friend that is active on the MI6 forums. He is convinced that Christopher Waltz isn't playing Blofeld, but Andrew Scott's character is. While I am personally one of the people that thinks even though Christopher Waltz is the most likely character to play Blofeld, and would prefer to see him in that role. His theory behind it was very intresting though!


Scott's character name is Denbigh. Denbigh's old English meaning is "small fortified field" (Or small Fortress).
The meaning of Bleuchamp is also "Small fortified field" (Or small Fortress). Coincidence??

You discuss !

Bleuchamp in French literally means "Blue field" which can be evolved into Blofeld.
In the book of OHMSS Blofeld's potential title is the "Compte de Bleuville". Bleuville in French means "Blue town"-doesn't match.
Also in the trailer Christoph Waltz is shown witha a bald head. So I think he is Blofeld-despite denials.

Bleuville. "He's not here - and he's not here" - Bond in Skyfall lodge.

Matt S

Bleuville wrote:

Dutchfinger wrote:

(First off: I did NOT read the script, this is pure speculation)

I ran across a friend that is active on the MI6 forums. He is convinced that Christopher Waltz isn't playing Blofeld, but Andrew Scott's character is. While I am personally one of the people that thinks even though Christopher Waltz is the most likely character to play Blofeld, and would prefer to see him in that role. His theory behind it was very intresting though!


Scott's character name is Denbigh. Denbigh's old English meaning is "small fortified field" (Or small Fortress).
The meaning of Bleuchamp is also "Small fortified field" (Or small Fortress). Coincidence??

You discuss !

Bleuchamp in French literally means "Blue field" which can be evolved into Blofeld.
In the book of OHMSS Blofeld's potential title is the "Compte de Bleuville". Bleuville in French means "Blue town"-doesn't match.
Also in the trailer Christoph Waltz is shown witha a bald head. So I think he is Blofeld-despite denials.

Bleuville. "He's not here - and he's not here" - Bond in Skyfall lodge.

Thanks for the French translation. Despite knowing some French, I never even thought of that! Here's some background on Denbigh: http://denbighcommunityarchive.org/eng/denbigh-history.html

HatThrowingHenchman

Bleuville wrote:

Dutchfinger wrote:

(First off: I did NOT read the script, this is pure speculation)

I ran across a friend that is active on the MI6 forums. He is convinced that Christopher Waltz isn't playing Blofeld, but Andrew Scott's character is. While I am personally one of the people that thinks even though Christopher Waltz is the most likely character to play Blofeld, and would prefer to see him in that role. His theory behind it was very intresting though!


Scott's character name is Denbigh. Denbigh's old English meaning is "small fortified field" (Or small Fortress).
The meaning of Bleuchamp is also "Small fortified field" (Or small Fortress). Coincidence??

You discuss !

Bleuchamp in French literally means "Blue field" which can be evolved into Blofeld.
In the book of OHMSS Blofeld's potential title is the "Compte de Bleuville". Bleuville in French means "Blue town"-doesn't match.
Also in the trailer Christoph Waltz is shown witha a bald head. So I think he is Blofeld-despite denials.

Bleuville. "He's not here - and he's not here" - Bond in Skyfall lodge.

PLEASE tell me where in the trailer Christop Waltz is shown with a bald head?! ?:)

broadshoulder

HatThrowingHenchman wrote:

I think Christoph Waltz's character is the head of SPECTRE for sure,the trailer pretty much tells us.there are some minor hints that he's Blofeld,too.
Denbigh I see rarher as a mole in a high governmental position, sort of a rouge agent for SPECTRE. don't thing and I am 99% sure that he is not the grand leader!

btw here's the Blofeld suggested ) :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJznTAwLSY
no, just kidding -{

I am not sure Blofeld is in this one..

HatThrowingHenchman

broadshoulder wrote:

HatThrowingHenchman wrote:

I think Christoph Waltz's character is the head of SPECTRE for sure,the trailer pretty much tells us.there are some minor hints that he's Blofeld,too.
Denbigh I see rarher as a mole in a high governmental position, sort of a rouge agent for SPECTRE. don't thing and I am 99% sure that he is not the grand leader!

btw here's the Blofeld suggested ) :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5dJznTAwLSY
no, just kidding -{

I am not sure Blofeld is in this one..

check post no.7 lines 8 and 9 to understand

Dutchfinger

Bleuville wrote:

Bleuchamp in French literally means "Blue field" which can be evolved into Blofeld.
In the book of OHMSS Blofeld's potential title is the "Compte de Bleuville".  Bleuville in French means "Blue town"-doesn't match.
Also in the trailer Christoph Waltz is shown witha a bald head.  So I think he is Blofeld-despite denials.

That seems to make sense. I honestly don't know where my friend (Gustav_Graves on the MI6 forums) got his theory from that Bleuchamp means "small fortified fort" in French. (I am going to ask him, he seemed very determined by this theory)

I too never thought anything else than Waltz going to be Blofeld. I am personally still convinced it's Waltz myself for that matter. I liked the theory though, and as long as the movie isn't released we will never know for sure who Blofeld is, if there even is a Blofeld in the movie...

Ornithologist

And yet the "evidence" seems to be mounting... :v

Thunderpussy

It really would be nice if they managed to fool us all.

Ornithologist

If that's what they are up to, they're certainly doing it well. Leaving a trail of breadcrumbs which only maniacs on forums like this were able to follow.

IF.

Thunderpussy

) nicely put, Ornithologist.

Smithers500

Really interesting thread. I would personally love Scott to be Blofeld, rather than the more obvious Waltz.

I'm not sure where I picked this up from, but I'm sure I read that Scott was second choice for his role, as the first choice -supposedly Chiewtel Ejiofor - was much more expensive.

Now, Chiwetel was hot property coming off the back of 12 Years a Slave and it was my understanding that when he was in the running for a part in Spectre, it was as the villain. It seems unlikely to me that if Chiwetel were to have been cast he would have occupied a supporting villain role, ergo Scott who was cast in his place is Blofeld.

Speculation granted, but I'd love to see Scott unveiled as Blofeld toward the end of Spectre, returning in the following film!