SPECTRE reviews - *SPOILERS*

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  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,665MI6 Agent
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    Mr Martini wrote:
    danjaq_0ff wrote:
    Just on the way back from the cast and crew screening

    Since you've seen it I have one question. Is the gun barrel at the beginning like most of the other Bond films?

    YES, in its full glory -{

    Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Now I can stay out of this thread until it opens here in the U.S. in two weeks.
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 6,971MI6 Agent
    No problem, we all wanted it back at the beginning {[]

    :D Yes I would, I can imagine that a lot of fans are going to see it Monday and will very excited to talk about it :D -{
  • JimatayJimatay Posts: 126MI6 Agent
    Does it last longer than the 00.7 seconds like the other Craig ones?
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,111MI6 Agent
    Jimatay wrote:
    Does it last longer than the 00.7 seconds like the other Craig ones?

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,696MI6 Agent
    What sort of water proofing was used on the flat roof Bond
    stands on ? :D
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 6,971MI6 Agent
    Jimatay wrote:
    Does it last longer than the 00.7 seconds like the other Craig ones?

    it seemed like a classic Gun Barrel too me, but I didn't time it, there is a nice little twist going on during the MGM/Sony titles to.
  • ppw3o6rppw3o6r Great BritainPosts: 2,111MI6 Agent
    What sort of water proofing was used on the flat roof Bond
    stands on ? :D

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,696MI6 Agent
    Thanks, I'll use the same on my garage roof. ;)
    ( Love a film tie in )
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,351MI6 Agent
    All I can say is 'Spectre' ticks every box on a Bond fans list {[] {[]

    So do we see misty eyes? :o
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,696MI6 Agent
    I think that's in "Sphincter " :D
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,853Quartermasters
    I think that's in "Sphincter " :D

    Much more of a niche market, that one B-)
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,696MI6 Agent
    Oh yes, very tight !
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  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 532MI6 Agent
    The Spectre Cast on Graham Norton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFErQftJdbI
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 532MI6 Agent
    edited October 2015
    um...hello... I still like the gunbarrel at the end of Skyfall. It allowed for a more cinematic opening. In Quantum not so much
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,853Quartermasters
    um...hello... I still like the gunbarrel at the end of Spectre. It allowed for a more cinematic opening. In Quantum not so much

    Not sure I understand: gunbarrel at the END of SPECTRE? But it's at the beginning(?)
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  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 532MI6 Agent
    um...hello... I still like the gunbarrel at the end of Spectre. It allowed for a more cinematic opening. In Quantum not so much

    Not sure I understand: gunbarrel at the END of SPECTRE? But it's at the beginning(?)

    Honestly where the gunbarrel goes depends entirely on the film itself. If you end on a bittersweet note like Quantum than having the 007 music play on the gunbarrel immediately after will completely obliterate that melancholy feeling of Bond as he leaves the algerian love knot in the snow. In Skyfall it worked at the end better. Mendez said he tried to make it work at the beginning, but it would've ruined the cinematic opening where Bond immediately steps out behind that wall and you here the DUH-NUH. In Spectre he obviously figured it worked at the beginning this time. Its not like it belongs at the front, it belongs whereever it fits best depending on the moods at the beginning and end.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,522MI6 Agent
    um...hello... I still like the gunbarrel at the end of Spectre. It allowed for a more cinematic opening. In Quantum not so much

    Not sure I understand: gunbarrel at the END of SPECTRE? But it's at the beginning(?)

    Honestly where the gunbarrel goes depends entirely on the film itself. If you end on a bittersweet note like Quantum than having the 007 music play on the gunbarrel immediately after will completely obliterate that melancholy feeling of Bond as he leaves the algerian love knot in the snow. In Skyfall it worked at the end better. Mendez said he tried to make it work at the beginning, but it would've ruined the cinematic opening where Bond immediately steps out behind that wall and you here the DUH-NUH. In Spectre he obviously figured it worked at the beginning this time. Its not like it belongs at the front, it belongs whereever it fits best depending on the moods at the beginning and end.

    You always talk about a "cinematic opening", but what does that even mean, and how is the gunbarrel not a "cinematic opening"?
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  • cheldcheld Posts: 300MI6 Agent
    Jimatay wrote:
    Does it last longer than the 00.7 seconds like the other Craig ones?

    Ask Rachel Weisz.

    :))
  • cheldcheld Posts: 300MI6 Agent
    um...hello... I still like the gunbarrel at the end of Spectre. It allowed for a more cinematic opening. In Quantum not so much

    Not sure I understand: gunbarrel at the END of SPECTRE? But it's at the beginning(?)

    Honestly where the gunbarrel goes depends entirely on the film itself. If you end on a bittersweet note like Quantum than having the 007 music play on the gunbarrel immediately after will completely obliterate that melancholy feeling of Bond as he leaves the algerian love knot in the snow. In Skyfall it worked at the end better. Mendez said he tried to make it work at the beginning, but it would've ruined the cinematic opening where Bond immediately steps out behind that wall and you here the DUH-NUH. In Spectre he obviously figured it worked at the beginning this time. Its not like it belongs at the front, it belongs whereever it fits best depending on the moods at the beginning and end.

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  • Vicsane007Vicsane007 Posts: 167MI6 Agent
    um...hello... I still like the gunbarrel at the end of Spectre. It allowed for a more cinematic opening. In Quantum not so much

    Not sure I understand: gunbarrel at the END of SPECTRE? But it's at the beginning(?)

    Skyfall, perhaps?
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  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 532MI6 Agent
    I just told you, the bond theme playing has a certain mood to it it affects what follows it, bond stepping out behind the wall after he has already walked into frame in the gunbarrel would be stupid thats why Mendez put it at the end
  • JagJag Posts: 1,166MI6 Agent
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.
  • MrSwindermanMrSwinderman Dover, Ohio, USAPosts: 208MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.

    QoS was nowhere near the "lowest point" of the franchise.

    Try perhaps, TMWTGG or LTK or DAD. After each of those, the franchise almost ended after all of those movies.
  • ShatterfangShatterfang Posts: 532MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.

    QoS was nowhere near the "lowest point" of the franchise.

    Try perhaps, TMWTGG or LTK or DAD. After each of those, the franchise almost ended after all of those movies.
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    Jag wrote:
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.

    QoS was nowhere near the "lowest point" of the franchise.

    Try perhaps, TMWTGG or LTK or DAD. After each of those, the franchise almost ended after all of those movies.

    Yeah the series will never get lower than the superfluous nipple, bond trying to wedgie a sumo wrestler and snowboarding to the beach boys, but what'd you have against LTK? a great bond film, maybe you meant AVTAK.
  • blame_thatcherblame_thatcher Posts: 199MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.
    QOS is one of the better films of the series - certainly better than the worst of Connery & Moore and the Brosnan stinkers.
  • MrSwindermanMrSwinderman Dover, Ohio, USAPosts: 208MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.

    QoS was nowhere near the "lowest point" of the franchise.

    Try perhaps, TMWTGG or LTK or DAD. After each of those, the franchise almost ended after all of those movies.
    '
    Jag wrote:
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.

    QoS was nowhere near the "lowest point" of the franchise.

    Try perhaps, TMWTGG or LTK or DAD. After each of those, the franchise almost ended after all of those movies.

    Yeah the series will never get lower than the superfluous nipple, bond trying to wedgie a sumo wrestler and snowboarding to the beach boys, but what'd you have against LTK? a great bond film, maybe you meant AVTAK.


    I have nothing against LTK but it was a low point as far as money goes. It was the lowest grossing movie and still is. The franchise was almost finished.
  • JagJag Posts: 1,166MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Spectre is getting mixed reviews, but the consensus emerges that it is better than QoS, which was probably the lowest point in the franchise.
    QOS is one of the better films of the series - certainly better than the worst of Connery & Moore and the Brosnan stinkers.


    Some people really like QoS! What makes it the lowest point for the franchise is how forgettable it is - but each to their own. I'll watch DAD 100 times over QoS!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 25,134Chief of Staff
    This thread is really for SPECTRE reviews.....if we could keep to topic please...there are many other threads in which to discuss the other films....thanks -{
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  • JagJag Posts: 1,166MI6 Agent
    It will certainly be easier once we get more reviews. They seem to be trickling in rather slowly at the moment.
  • Penfold HeartPenfold Heart Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    None of the reviews are comparing Spectre to itself, comparing it to other action franchises, or even comparing it to other bonds. They're just comparing it to... Skyfall :# ... if they just compared it to the entire franchise, it has to be in the top 7.

    They also are counting off just because it is not as emotional as the last 3. Well maybe it wasn't trying to, ever think of that. We don't need an emotionally driven narrative every time. In fact, the older bonds had action driven narratives, all the way up till OHMSS. And before that they would always hold the emotional stuff right towards the end just to give the finale some extra weight. goldfinger didn't have any emotion compared to Bond movies 1, 2, and 4 - it is the least emotional and the most cheesy of the 4, yet its considered the best one. I just think they are deducting the movie for all the wrong reasons. We have evolved into a culture that really likes that emotional stuff, and that was great coming out of the Die Another Day pit but we don't have to rely on it as much. action and rising against the odds is really is the most important thing. Don't cater to the critics

    This is part of the problem with modern popcorn/ mass entertainment cinema, we always have to go into the history and psychology of the characters now a-la The Dark Knight Trilogy. Problem is, that sometimes their history is either not that interesting, a bit of a cliche, or just not very well done.

    We rarely get just a straight up action film now. That's why Taken was pretty refreshing and most people liked it. It did straight up action, and did it well.

    I don't necessarily mind exploring Bond's back story, but if it detracts from the mission and the overall charge of the film, then no.
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