I think Brosnan could return to Bond and be just as good as he was 20 years ago. Forget the Craig timeline, return to the old timeline with little continuity and get Brosnan back in the role. I can dream, can't I?
Not sure how much to read into this but Bond screenwriter Neal Purvis was quoted as saying:
They also revealed how the next Bond movie will perhaps be a very different beast, saying: ‘.. Spectre felt like it closed off a certain way of doing Bond. And I think whatever happens next will be quite different.’
You could argue Craig returning would be 'more of the same' but with a new actor it might make sense to give the franchise a soft reboot and not continue any of the Craig Bond plots. Perhaps Mr Purvis has given a hint Craig won't be returning?
On the other hand, you could keep Craig and take the franchise in a different direction but that could jar with his previous interpretation of the role.
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^ it's the Metro cannibalising a Telegraph interview with Wade & Purvis about their writing SS:GB...both of them have only been brought on-board to rewrite the last few Bond scripts, not write one from scratch...I believe they haven't written the current script (in whatever form it currently exists) either...
^ it's the Metro cannibalising a Telegraph interview with Wade & Purvis about their writing SS:GB...both of them have only been brought on-board to rewrite the last few Bond scripts, not write one from scratch...I believe they haven't written the current script (in whatever form it currently exists) either...
I agree. This is taken way out of proportion again. I find it remarkable that Purvis & Wade think it's so tough to write a new Bond movie just because Trump is now the U.S president, but it's not like we're only relying on them. As you pointed out, they've only been brought on these past times to rewrite some stuff here and there. I think In SPECTRE they only had a hand in the third act, if i'm not mistaken...
Still though, I wonder if there even is a 'current script' at the moment. To me it seems like absolutely nothing is going on at the Bond 25 department. A late 2018 release already seems completely inplausible because of this. This could potentially become a longer hiatus than we had in between Quantum and Skyfall...
I wonder if there even is a 'current script' at the moment. To me it seems like absolutely nothing is going on at the Bond 25 department. A late 2018 release already seems completely inplausible because of this.
We're a little behind schedule but a fall 2018 release could still quite plausibly happen.
I sure hope you're right!
The reason I think it seems so much more inplausible this time has to do with the uncertainty of whether or not Craig will return. I think Barbara Broccoli most likely did Orthello to stay close to Craig and try to talk him back into Bond 25, but he's also still doing Purity right?... So where do they go from here? Both EON and Sony seem very keen on getting Craig to return, but they probably will have to delay production if they want that to happen. It also seems to me that absolutely no announcements are on the horizon for quite some time...
I don't get why it's taking them so long. The bond movies of today are making the most money since a long time. They're more sucessful than they have been for years. You would have thought they would use this to capitalise on it and make bond films more frequently. AVTAK-LTK were the least successful three bond films in terms of worldwide gross, and yet all three were still only 2 years apart.
Still though, I wonder if there even is a 'current script' at the moment. To me it seems like absolutely nothing is going on at the Bond 25 department.
There has definitely been a draft written - and some months ago...no idea if it's been 'fleshed out' though...
There is always something happening on the Bond front... -{
In January 2011, EON had an actor under contract to play Bond and a distributor, two things it does not have now.
At this point in 2014, they had a director, a distributor, a Bond and were about a month away from having a script. They still didn't get started on time.
I think we are on a hiatus of sorts, with dc, Broccoli and Wilson doing other projects, I just can't see us getting bond 25 next year.... Unfortunately
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I'm not entirely sure that there's a correlation between quality of film and gap between films. Pretty tough to prove.
They've been proving it since 1995...or I guess, more thoroughly, since 1997. )
Goldeneye wasn't even being developed for half the wait. Skyfall really wasn't in motion until 2011.
I didn't mean to imply that the films were in the oven the whole time, just that the extended breaks seemed to allow them to re-energize and find their footing.
I liked it too! Honestly, with 24 movies, I'm more drawn to the outliers than the ones that stick to formula, so I do enjoy its misfit status. But there's no denying it was rushed and they weren't 100% pleased with it.
I think we are on a hiatus of sorts, with dc, Broccoli and Wilson doing other projects, I just can't see us getting bond 25 next year.... Unfortunately
Yeah it seems post-Spectre that everyone just wants to take an extended hiatus from Bond not only to do other things but to really see what direction they want to go next. Perhaps partially due to the films lukewarm response, sure it made a lot of money as Bond always does but it sort of came and went from the public conscious with little impact.
I think we are on a hiatus of sorts, with dc, Broccoli and Wilson doing other projects, I just can't see us getting bond 25 next year.... Unfortunately
Yeah it seems post-Spectre that everyone just wants to take an extended hiatus from Bond not only to do other things but to really see what direction they want to go next. Perhaps partially due to the films lukewarm response, sure it made a lot of money as Bond always does but it sort of came and went from the public conscious with little impact.
I'm amazed just how quickly people and even fans moved on from Spectre, a couple of months after the Blu Ray/ download release there was more clamour for bond 25 than Sp.
I think we are on a hiatus of sorts, with dc, Broccoli and Wilson doing other projects, I just can't see us getting bond 25 next year.... Unfortunately
Yeah it seems post-Spectre that everyone just wants to take an extended hiatus from Bond not only to do other things but to really see what direction they want to go next. Perhaps partially due to the films lukewarm response, sure it made a lot of money as Bond always does but it sort of came and went from the public conscious with little impact.
I'm amazed just how quickly people and even fans moved on from Spectre, a couple of months after the Blu Ray/ download release there was more clamour for bond 25 than Sp.
Speaks volumes. It was something to get past. The spirit around Skyfall was much more celebratory, on both sides of the screen.
I think we are on a hiatus of sorts, with dc, Broccoli and Wilson doing other projects, I just can't see us getting bond 25 next year.... Unfortunately
Yeah it seems post-Spectre that everyone just wants to take an extended hiatus from Bond not only to do other things but to really see what direction they want to go next. Perhaps partially due to the films lukewarm response, sure it made a lot of money as Bond always does but it sort of came and went from the public conscious with little impact.
I'm amazed just how quickly people and even fans moved on from Spectre, a couple of months after the Blu Ray/ download release there was more clamour for bond 25 than Sp.
A similar thing happened to QOS as well, even though I really like QOS, it made little impact on cinema viewers and is usually now known to the general public as the "the film after Casino Royale". Even though Spectre is the most recent Bond film its appears to have received similar status as "the film after Skyfall".
I think we are on a hiatus of sorts, with dc, Broccoli and Wilson doing other projects, I just can't see us getting bond 25 next year.... Unfortunately
Yeah it seems post-Spectre that everyone just wants to take an extended hiatus from Bond not only to do other things but to really see what direction they want to go next. Perhaps partially due to the films lukewarm response, sure it made a lot of money as Bond always does but it sort of came and went from the public conscious with little impact.
I'm amazed just how quickly people and even fans moved on from Spectre, a couple of months after the Blu Ray/ download release there was more clamour for bond 25 than Sp.
A lot of this also has to do with Daniel Craig's comments about not wanting to come back. He sparked a lot of interest in the future of Bond.
As I said before, the producers put themselves into a corner when they approved the idea of a “hard reboot” in Casino Royale. Then they gradually ran out of ideas in subsequent films, which became increasingly self-referential and even self-contradictory (Q abandons gadgets in Skyfall and then they return in SPECTRE). So of course, they must be all wondering now, “where do we go from here?”. It will take a brave decision to move the franchise forward successfully. And some fans will not like it.
From here? I hate to sound like a broken record but...
Drop all "personal" plots.
Stop trying to link the stories together.
Don't feel compelled to integrate the supporting cast into the storyline.
Use unfilmed Fleming material where possible.
Bring back David Arnold!
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From here? I hate to sound like a broken record but...
Drop all "personal" plots.
Stop trying to link the stories together.
Don't feel compelled to integrate the supporting cast into the storyline.
Use unfilmed Fleming material where possible.
Bring back David Arnold!
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A beautiful dream!!! B-)
Ouch...that was cold
http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/27/donald-trump-may-have-ruined-the-possibility-of-another-great-james-bond-movie-6410019/
You could argue Craig returning would be 'more of the same' but with a new actor it might make sense to give the franchise a soft reboot and not continue any of the Craig Bond plots. Perhaps Mr Purvis has given a hint Craig won't be returning?
On the other hand, you could keep Craig and take the franchise in a different direction but that could jar with his previous interpretation of the role.
I agree. This is taken way out of proportion again. I find it remarkable that Purvis & Wade think it's so tough to write a new Bond movie just because Trump is now the U.S president, but it's not like we're only relying on them. As you pointed out, they've only been brought on these past times to rewrite some stuff here and there. I think In SPECTRE they only had a hand in the third act, if i'm not mistaken...
Still though, I wonder if there even is a 'current script' at the moment. To me it seems like absolutely nothing is going on at the Bond 25 department. A late 2018 release already seems completely inplausible because of this.
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Bond 23 announced January of 2011 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/11/james-bond-23-new-007-film-announced_n_807556.html
Bond 23 release dates announced June 2nd of 2011 - http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/78328-james-bond-23-release-date-announced
Title of Bond 23 (Skyfall) announced the week of shooting, Nov 3, 2011 - https://www.cnet.com/news/skyfall-is-official-name-for-bond-23-announced-live-on-ipad/
Skyfall is released fall of 2012.
We're a little behind schedule but a fall 2018 release could still quite plausibly happen.
I sure hope you're right!
The reason I think it seems so much more inplausible this time has to do with the uncertainty of whether or not Craig will return. I think Barbara Broccoli most likely did Orthello to stay close to Craig and try to talk him back into Bond 25, but he's also still doing Purity right?... So where do they go from here? Both EON and Sony seem very keen on getting Craig to return, but they probably will have to delay production if they want that to happen. It also seems to me that absolutely no announcements are on the horizon for quite some time...
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1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
There has definitely been a draft written - and some months ago...no idea if it's been 'fleshed out' though...
There is always something happening on the Bond front... -{
At this point in 2014, they had a director, a distributor, a Bond and were about a month away from having a script. They still didn't get started on time.
There's no way we get Bond 25 in 2018.
No. But it does seem unbearable!
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That it does
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
A four year wait got us Casino Royale and Skyfall
Going back a little further, a six year wait got us Goldeneye.
Opinions vary but these are largely considered high points of the franchise by a not-insignificant amount of both fandom and the general public.
Cranking them out every two years hasn't resulted in a great Bond film in quite some time.
I'm not entirely sure that there's a correlation between quality of film and gap between films. Pretty tough to prove.
In any event, I'm thinking 2019 or 2020 at this point. 2018 seems pretty much out of the question. Unless we get some news in the next month or two.
They've been proving it since 1995...or I guess, more thoroughly, since 1997.
I didn't mean to imply that the films were in the oven the whole time, just that the extended breaks seemed to allow them to re-energize and find their footing.
Speaks volumes. It was something to get past. The spirit around Skyfall was much more celebratory, on both sides of the screen.
A lot of this also has to do with Daniel Craig's comments about not wanting to come back. He sparked a lot of interest in the future of Bond.
Drop all "personal" plots.
Stop trying to link the stories together.
Don't feel compelled to integrate the supporting cast into the storyline.
Use unfilmed Fleming material where possible.
Bring back David Arnold!
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM