Just another example how self-centred UK politics are:
She waited until the EU parliament elections were over in her own country for her resignation announcement, but did not bother to wait until the end of the EU elections in the other 26 countries......
What makes you think that the timing was totally Mrs May's decision?
Just another example how self-centred UK politics are:
She waited until the EU parliament elections were over in her own country for her resignation announcement, but did not bother to wait until the end of the EU elections in the other 26 countries......
What makes you think that the timing was totally Mrs May's decision?
Mrs May was a busted flush as of yesterday, she had no choice n this matter.
I was talking to a mate yesterday about that, and I
Said how shocking it would have been if she'd said ...
... " One summer on a drink and drug fuelled binge ..
..... I murdered a prostitute !"
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I understand Boris Johnson is the most popular candidate in polls to be the next PM. The good news is he has a better chance than May to get UK out of EU soon. The bad news is that the reason is that he's willing to pull Britain out of the Union without any deal.
Does it have to og through the House? If the EU get sick and tired of British demands, can they just say "you're out"? Especially if the PM and large paerts of the population doesn't mind a no deal Brexit?
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Does it have to og through the House? If the EU get sick and tired of British demands, can they just say "you're out"? Especially if the PM and large paerts of the population doesn't mind a no deal Brexit?
Yes, it does have to go through Parliament as a result of the court case on Brexit which ruled that Parliament had a role in the process and it could not be bypassed by the prime minister using royal prerogative powers to get Brexit through with no recourse to Parliament.
That is the complicating factor to the No Deal scenario. And it's also a misnomer anyway as there would have to be separate individual deals on all of the issues anyway and they would most likely add up to one giant bad deal.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
I've just read Boris Johnson's bio on wikipedia, the fountain of all wisdom. I get the impression Boris doesn't have the moral backbone Theresa May, in spite of her other faults, seems to have. He was a pioneer in the field of fake news, for example.
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,690MI6 Agent
I've just read Boris Johnson's bio on wikipedia, the fountain of all wisdom. I get the impression Boris doesn't have the moral backbone Theresa May, in spite of her other faults, seems to have. He was a pioneer in the field of fake news, for example.
And he's had several affairs of course and is in the process of divorcing his wife and selling the family home for over £3 million. He remains very popular with the Tory grassroots, however, so he is one to watch for the leadership, even though he didn't fare very well the last time there was a vacancy in 2016.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
I've just read Boris Johnson's bio on wikipedia, the fountain of all wisdom. I get the impression Boris doesn't have the moral backbone Theresa May, in spite of her other faults, seems to have. He was a pioneer in the field of fake news, for example.
And he's had several affairs of course and is in the process of divorcing his wife and selling the family home for over £3 million. He remains very popular with the Tory grassroots, however, so he is one to watch for the leadership, even though he didn't fare very well the last time there was a vacancy in 2016.
I seem to remebering Boris pretended to back someone else to be PM, but secretly worked to become PM himself in 2016. He is morally flexible.
I've just read Boris Johnson's bio on wikipedia, the fountain of all wisdom. I get the impression Boris doesn't have the moral backbone Theresa May, in spite of her other faults, seems to have. He was a pioneer in the field of fake news, for example.
And he's had several affairs of course and is in the process of divorcing his wife and selling the family home for over £3 million. He remains very popular with the Tory grassroots, however, so he is one to watch for the leadership, even though he didn't fare very well the last time there was a vacancy in 2016.
I seem to remebering Boris pretended to back someone else to be PM, but secretly worked to become PM himself in 2016. He is morally flexible.
Other way round, Boris was running for the top job with Gove as his backer, Hove then decided to withdraw his backing and run himself so ending Johnson leadership campaign, Johnson ruled himself out of the running.
It was either that.....or the priesthood
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,690MI6 Agent
And he's had several affairs of course and is in the process of divorcing his wife and selling the family home for over £3 million. He remains very popular with the Tory grassroots, however, so he is one to watch for the leadership, even though he didn't fare very well the last time there was a vacancy in 2016.
I seem to remebering Boris pretended to back someone else to be PM, but secretly worked to become PM himself in 2016. He is morally flexible.
Other way round, Boris was running for the top job with Gove as his backer, Hove then decided to withdraw his backing and run himself so ending Johnson leadership campaign, Johnson ruled himself out of the running.
Yes, and if Gove hadn't stabbed Boris in the back perhaps Brexit would have turned out very differently with a Brexiteer at the helm instead of a Remainer like May. It's just one reason why I wouldn't support Gove for the leadership if he intends to run this time as well (he came third behind Andrea Leadsom and May last time). In any event, Boris may get a second bite at the cherry, despite Gove's vaunting personal ambition and duplicity last time around. Et tu, Brute indeed.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
A news report I just heard said that if the results of the EU election were repeated in a general election, then Nigel Farage would be PM and the Conservatives wouldn't have a single seat. Got to take the rough with the smooth, I suppose (I'm not entirely serious before anyone starts shouting).
Here in Scotland, the SNP would still be in charge, with the LibDems as the opposition.
It will be interesting to see how this will continue.
Will Corbyn be stabbed for the bad results?
For sure one of May's successors will try to blackmail the EU to further concessions and I predict that this will not be successful because that would be against their red lines and the negotiation position is not too well knowing that a parliament will vote against a Hard Brexit.
Will there be new elections which will equal to political suicide for Conservatives and Labour?
Or will a new PM try to scaremonger the EU by writing a Brexit Party PM on the wall and try to gain some leverage?
Anyhow imo the UK will Hard Brexit in October and that's what I was hoping for for many months now.
We'll see if the experts or the populists were right in the prediction of the consequences.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
As expected the far right parties did well in many countries, France is an example. The conservative and social democratic parties took a beating, but green and liberal (doesn't mean quite the same as in the US) parties did well. The far right will probably not get the power they hoped if the old mainstream parties manage to co-operate with the greens and liberals.
I found the results in the Nordic countries interesting. In Denmark, where most mainstream have gone far in adopting or at least adjust their immigrant politics to the far-right DF, the DF lost 3 out of four seats. In Sweden, where until recently only the far-right SD even talked about problems regarding immigration, the SD did well.
A question about the UK: Is it possible the Tories and Labour try really hard to make a deal on Brexit to avoid a real disaster for both parties in the next national election?
A question about the UK: Is it possible the Tories and Labour try really hard to make a deal on Brexit to avoid a real disaster for both parties in the next national election?
They tried exactly that recently and didn't succeed.
I found this article (with lots of charts) helpfull. Perhaps the greatest surprise to me is that the voter turnout in the UK hasn't changed much since last election.
I don't think that Tories and Labour will team up to get a Brexit deal.
I find it more likely that a new PM will go for a Hard Brexit and try to win over some of the MPs who were against it so far.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I don't think that Tories and Labour will team up to get a Brexit deal.
I find it more likely that a new PM will go for a Hard Brexit and try to win over some of the MPs who were against it so far.
I think so too, but the Tories and Labour must know not pulling off Brexit will be a disaster at the ballot box in the next election.
In Germany's 10 largest Cities, 9 have a relative majority for the Green Party.
Congrats on that (I guess?)!
Spain saw a clear victory of the socialist party in the European elections tarnished by many cities being open for the conservatives with a little help from the fascists-in-spirit-if-not-yet-in-actions (which the former have declared to be perfectly happy with).
"Enjoy it while it lasts."
"The very words I live by."
I don't think that Tories and Labour will team up to get a Brexit deal.
I find it more likely that a new PM will go for a Hard Brexit and try to win over some of the MPs who were against it so far.
I think so too, but the Tories and Labour must know not pulling off Brexit will be a disaster at the ballot box in the next election.
I think it will be a disaster at the ballot box at the next general election unless the Conservatives pull off Brexit, then have sufficient time to get back to running the country properly - highly unlikely as it is. I’m also pretty sure it will be disastrous for Labour too it Corbyn is still at the helm.
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What makes you think that the timing was totally Mrs May's decision?
Mrs May was a busted flush as of yesterday, she had no choice n this matter.
Said how shocking it would have been if she'd said ...
... " One summer on a drink and drug fuelled binge ..
..... I murdered a prostitute !"
Yes, it does have to go through Parliament as a result of the court case on Brexit which ruled that Parliament had a role in the process and it could not be bypassed by the prime minister using royal prerogative powers to get Brexit through with no recourse to Parliament.
That is the complicating factor to the No Deal scenario. And it's also a misnomer anyway as there would have to be separate individual deals on all of the issues anyway and they would most likely add up to one giant bad deal.
And he's had several affairs of course and is in the process of divorcing his wife and selling the family home for over £3 million. He remains very popular with the Tory grassroots, however, so he is one to watch for the leadership, even though he didn't fare very well the last time there was a vacancy in 2016.
I seem to remebering Boris pretended to back someone else to be PM, but secretly worked to become PM himself in 2016. He is morally flexible.
Other way round, Boris was running for the top job with Gove as his backer, Hove then decided to withdraw his backing and run himself so ending Johnson leadership campaign, Johnson ruled himself out of the running.
Yes, and if Gove hadn't stabbed Boris in the back perhaps Brexit would have turned out very differently with a Brexiteer at the helm instead of a Remainer like May. It's just one reason why I wouldn't support Gove for the leadership if he intends to run this time as well (he came third behind Andrea Leadsom and May last time). In any event, Boris may get a second bite at the cherry, despite Gove's vaunting personal ambition and duplicity last time around. Et tu, Brute indeed.
Here in Scotland, the SNP would still be in charge, with the LibDems as the opposition.
Will Corbyn be stabbed for the bad results?
For sure one of May's successors will try to blackmail the EU to further concessions and I predict that this will not be successful because that would be against their red lines and the negotiation position is not too well knowing that a parliament will vote against a Hard Brexit.
Will there be new elections which will equal to political suicide for Conservatives and Labour?
Or will a new PM try to scaremonger the EU by writing a Brexit Party PM on the wall and try to gain some leverage?
Anyhow imo the UK will Hard Brexit in October and that's what I was hoping for for many months now.
We'll see if the experts or the populists were right in the prediction of the consequences.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I found the results in the Nordic countries interesting. In Denmark, where most mainstream have gone far in adopting or at least adjust their immigrant politics to the far-right DF, the DF lost 3 out of four seats. In Sweden, where until recently only the far-right SD even talked about problems regarding immigration, the SD did well.
A question about the UK: Is it possible the Tories and Labour try really hard to make a deal on Brexit to avoid a real disaster for both parties in the next national election?
Hear the cry of " They didn't know what they were
Voting for " anymore ?
They tried exactly that recently and didn't succeed.
I found this article (with lots of charts) helpfull. Perhaps the greatest surprise to me is that the voter turnout in the UK hasn't changed much since last election.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48417191
I find it more likely that a new PM will go for a Hard Brexit and try to win over some of the MPs who were against it so far.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I think so too, but the Tories and Labour must know not pulling off Brexit will be a disaster at the ballot box in the next election.
Congrats on that (I guess?)!
Spain saw a clear victory of the socialist party in the European elections tarnished by many cities being open for the conservatives with a little help from the fascists-in-spirit-if-not-yet-in-actions (which the former have declared to be perfectly happy with).
"The very words I live by."
I think it will be a disaster at the ballot box at the next general election unless the Conservatives pull off Brexit, then have sufficient time to get back to running the country properly - highly unlikely as it is. I’m also pretty sure it will be disastrous for Labour too it Corbyn is still at the helm.