Spectre, one year later

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  • UnderwaterBattle007UnderwaterBattle007 Posts: 277MI6 Agent
    All the Bond films adapted from the Fleming novels are awesome:

    Dr No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, On Her Majesties Secret Service, Casino Royale.

    We only start to hit hurdles when writers not of the ability of Fleming get involved. Purvis and Wade spring to mind.

    I'd love John Le Carre to pen a James Bond novel.
    FRWl, CR, OHMSS, TSWLM, GF, SF, TLD, LTK, TND, FYEO, OP,TWINE, GE, LALD, TB, SPECTRE, DN, YOLT, TMWTGG, QOS, MR, DAF, DAD, AVTAK.

    "Do you expect me to talk? "No Mister Bond I expect you to die"
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,750Chief of Staff
    I'd love John Le Carre to pen a James Bond novel.

    I'm afraid you'll have to wait a long, long time for that. For 50 years now Le Carre has been expressing his disdain for Bond; and he's said that Bond's weaknesses for women, gourmet foods and drink, and the luxuries in life would make him the perfect traitor. His novels are, if anything, anti-Bond.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • JoshuaJoshua Posts: 968MI6 Agent
    I did not like spetre as much as the other films of Daniel Craig. I have saw it only one time but not to watch it again soon as i thougt it was not good with the Blofeld brother of Bond story.
  • Unloved SeasonUnloved Season Denton, TexasPosts: 48MI6 Agent
    It hasn't been that long, but hasn't "aged" that well for me. I really enjoyed it the first time in the theater, though I thought the climax was a little weird. It didn't feel like a Bond movie with all the secondary characters involved like an ensemble and Bond just walking away and leaving the baddie just chilling on a bridge under arrest.

    It still has scenes I really enjoy like the opening, the car chase and the car/plane chase, I like using White's daughter as the Bond girl and of course I was excited to see SPECTRE/Blofeld back. But more I see it the more I dislike the family connection between Bond and Blofeld, dislike the retcon of the previous films to put them all under the SPECTRE umbrella, still don't care for the climax, and I find the Nine Eyes subplot boring. Had it been its own movie it might have made for something, but as an underdeveloped concept it's just a lot of two guys arguing about the future and ethics of the intelligence field. It's not terrible though, it has a lot of good ingredients but feels like a bit of a missed opportunity.

    I enjoy all the Craig films (all the Bond films really, except Die Another Day), but I'd probably place it last on my list from his era. Which isn't putting it down too much. I thought Casino Royale and Skyfall were really good, and while Quantum Of Solace had its problems I really enjoyed it the first time around and I've never really soured on it.
  • Mr_OsatoMr_Osato Posts: 398MI6 Agent
    It is my second favourite Craig movie actually. Fantastic PTS, loved it that Spectre is back and the meeting in Rome had a classic feel to it. Also Craig is more comfortable in the role, even the humor is a lot better than in his previous outings. I liked how they brought the previous three films together to the Spectre climax and how Blofeld was the instrument of all his misery. I didn't mind the whole family relationship part either.

    The only downside is maybe the last third of the movie. But this is something you see often with Bond movies; a great first 2/3's and a lousy final act. All in all, a very enjoyable movie. Cannot wait for the next one, although I don't think we should hang on too long to Blofeld as main villain.
    OHMSS, FRWL, DN, GF, CR, GE, SP, YOLT, TB, TSWLM, LALD, TLD, TND, FYEO, SF, MR, TMWTGG, TWINE, OP, AVTAK, DAF, LTK, QOS, DAD

    1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
  • KabraxalKabraxal Posts: 104MI6 Agent
    I remember skipping it in theatres because of the disappointment from Skyfall, then picking the BR up on a whim. I almost beat myself up over it as the first 30 to 45 minutes seemed to be channeling Skyfall with the cinematography over all else bent but then it suddenly and thankfully exploded into a really fun Bond romp. The ending is especially satisfying and left me genuinely surprised that I enjoyed the movie.

    But, I will say I think it should be Craig's swan song. At times, he felt old and worn out, which is good for this movie but terrible for another sequel playing off the same theme three movies in a row.
    Top Ten Bond - 10:Goldfinger 9:Thunderball 8:The Spy who Loved Me 7:For Your Eyes Only 6: Casino Royale 5:The Man with the Golden Gun 4:Quantum of Solace 3:Licence to Kill 2:Goldeneye 1:The Living Daylights
  • UnderwaterBattle007UnderwaterBattle007 Posts: 277MI6 Agent
    I think it's time for a Bond film to have the following elements:

    Great PTS with no connection to the movie whatsoever like Goldfinger.

    Bond gets his mission from M

    Bond gets his gadets from Q

    Then the main stand alone plot with twists and turns with car chases, speed boat chases etc. I'd love a speed boat chase in Amsterdam like the one thats in the Alistair McClean film "Puppet On A Chain"

    After defeating the villain, an ending with minor villains like in DAF.

    Thats what I'm hoping for. I'm fed up of Bond being a Rogue agent surely that storyline has now been exhausted.
    FRWl, CR, OHMSS, TSWLM, GF, SF, TLD, LTK, TND, FYEO, OP,TWINE, GE, LALD, TB, SPECTRE, DN, YOLT, TMWTGG, QOS, MR, DAF, DAD, AVTAK.

    "Do you expect me to talk? "No Mister Bond I expect you to die"
  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,405MI6 Agent
    I think it's time for a Bond film to have the following elements:

    Great PTS with no connection to the movie whatsoever like Goldfinger.

    Bond gets his mission from M

    Bond gets his gadets from Q

    Then the main stand alone plot with twists and turns with car chases, speed boat chases etc. I'd love a speed boat chase in Amsterdam like the one thats in the Alistair McClean film "Puppet On A Chain"

    After defeating the villain, an ending with minor villains like in DAF.

    Thats what I'm hoping for. I'm fed up of Bond being a Rogue agent surely that storyline has now been exhausted.

    Consensus is rare here (which is a good thing) but I feel that most of us are on the same page.
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
  • UnderwaterBattle007UnderwaterBattle007 Posts: 277MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    I think it's time for a Bond film to have the following elements:

    Great PTS with no connection to the movie whatsoever like Goldfinger.

    Bond gets his mission from M

    Bond gets his gadets from Q

    Then the main stand alone plot with twists and turns with car chases, speed boat chases etc. I'd love a speed boat chase in Amsterdam like the one thats in the Alistair McClean film "Puppet On A Chain"

    After defeating the villain, an ending with minor villains like in DAF.

    Thats what I'm hoping for. I'm fed up of Bond being a Rogue agent surely that storyline has now been exhausted.

    Consensus is rare here (which is a good thing) but I feel that most of us are on the same page.

    At some point they must incorporate the whole "Garden Of Death" storyline from the novel of YOLT. Maybe this is how Bond kills Blofeld in Bond 25 as per the novel, and then Bond falls of the Castle battlements and suffers amnesia and is kidnapped by one of the Bond girls.

    Maybe then Bond 26 could feature the whole untold story of Bond regaining his memory going to Moscow and being kipnapped and brainwashed by the KGB. Then returning to London to kill M, fails in his attempt he's sent to Shrublands and is then sent on a mission to prove he is fully ok. In the novel TMWTGG that mission is to kill Scaramanga.
    FRWl, CR, OHMSS, TSWLM, GF, SF, TLD, LTK, TND, FYEO, OP,TWINE, GE, LALD, TB, SPECTRE, DN, YOLT, TMWTGG, QOS, MR, DAF, DAD, AVTAK.

    "Do you expect me to talk? "No Mister Bond I expect you to die"
  • BIG TAMBIG TAM Wrexham, North Wales, UK.Posts: 768MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    I think it's time for a Bond film to have the following elements:

    Great PTS with no connection to the movie whatsoever like Goldfinger.

    Bond gets his mission from M

    Bond gets his gadets from Q

    Then the main stand alone plot with twists and turns with car chases, speed boat chases etc. I'd love a speed boat chase in Amsterdam like the one thats in the Alistair McClean film "Puppet On A Chain"

    After defeating the villain, an ending with minor villains like in DAF.

    Thats what I'm hoping for. I'm fed up of Bond being a Rogue agent surely that storyline has now been exhausted.

    Consensus is rare here (which is a good thing) but I feel that most of us are on the same page.

    At some point they must incorporate the whole "Garden Of Death" storyline from the novel of YOLT. Maybe this is how Bond kills Blofeld in Bond 25 as per the novel, and then Bond falls of the Castle battlements and suffers amnesia and is kidnapped by one of the Bond girls.

    Maybe then Bond 26 could feature the whole untold story of Bond regaining his memory going to Moscow and being kipnapped and brainwashed by the KGB. Then returning to London to kill M, fails in his attempt he's sent to Shrublands and is then sent on a mission to prove he is fully ok. In the novel TMWTGG that mission is to kill Scaramanga.

    I like this sort of idea. It'd be a good opportunity to film BONDs 25 & 26 back-to-back. Release BOND 25 in late 2018, BOND 26 in mid to late 2019. This way they could secure Daniel Craig for two films without a long break between the two. Then release BOND 27 with a new actor as 007 in 2022 - the 60th Anniversary year. And if anybody thinks this would be messing round with things too much I wouldn't worry. Daniel Craig's tenure has been one long messing around with Bond lore for ten years.
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,222MI6 Agent
    edited April 2017
    I too recently rewatched it for the first time since seeing it in the theatre
    as noted elsewhere, I've always had some serious issues regarding Blofeld:
    1) having a childhood relation with Bond
    2) being "behind everything", just to get back at Bond

    I was hoping both these plot points were just found in isolated bits of dialog, so that in theory one could do a fan-edit and trim out a few sentences, leaving a much more acceptable story
    that was actually how I remembered it, but it turns out that, once he and Bond meet in his desert headquarters, basically every single line WaltzBlofeld speaks is developing one or both of these two irritating concepts

    even when Bond eavesdrops in on the big meeting, Blofeld turns to face him and says "cuckoo" and some other dialog establishing they already know each other ... this scene is otherwise nightmarish and perhaps the best in the film after the opening, yet Bond's identification and escape would not make sense without Blofeld suddenly making those creepy personal references: the sequence does not work without that

    then their dialogs at the crater HQ ... I could accept that Blofeld was the real brains behind QUANTUM and Silva, though it would be conspicuous retconning and unpersuasive ... but, he keeps saying all these criminal activities he was actually behind for the past three films were all motivated entirely by his childhood grudge against Bond, over and over again until the torture scene starts ... there is no single discrete line that could be removed to make it all better, if we are to accept this film at all we have to swallow all this revisionist backstory

    perhaps in the next film they can halfsalvage it by Blofeld being shown to have lied about his motivations, just to mess with Bond
    i.e. he was still behind QUANTUM and Silva, but because these were lucrative criminal enterprises ... then while he had Bond where he wanted him, he deliberately lied about his motivations just to wind him up, because he knows CraigBond is a bit unbalanced, overemotional, and sensitive to the Vesper issue , so he was deliberately pressing the right buttons to hurt him, psychological torture ... after all, he literally drills into Bond's brain one scene later, and he replays the video footage of Mr Whites suicide to mess with Swann (and the implicated Bond), so sure, he also makes additional extravagant claims just to make Bond feel bad: retconning the retcon could be simple here
    the fosterbrother thing however could not be so easily undone, I think there is dialog between Moneypenny and Bond establishing the relationship before the crater HQ sequence, and the "cuckoo" remark would not make any sense if they did not really have that childhood relationship


    anyways, given the intractable knottiness of the Blofeld-is-my-brother thing, that leaves the major bulk of the film unwatchable, and the ideal fan-edit therefor would be just the pre-credits sequence, that was pretty damn good
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,394MI6 Agent
    I too recently rewatched it for the first time since seeing it in the theatre
    as noted elsewhere, I've always had some serious issues regarding Blofeld:
    1) having a childhood relation with Bond
    2) being "behind everything", just to get back at Bond

    I was hoping both these plot points were just found in isolated bits of dialog, so that in theory one could do a fan-edit and trim out a few sentences, leaving a much more acceptable story
    that was actually how I remembered it, but it turns out that, once he and Bond meet in his desert headquarters, basically every single line WaltzBlofeld speaks is developing one or both of these two irritating concepts

    even when Bond eavesdrops in on the big meeting, Blofeld turns to face him and says "cuckoo" and some other dialog establishing they already know each other ... this scene is otherwise nightmarish and perhaps the best in the film after the opening, yet Bond's identification and escape would not make sense without Blofeld suddenly making those creepy personal references: the sequence does not work without that

    then their dialogs at the crater HQ ... I could accept that Blofeld was the real brains behind QUANTUM and Silva, though it would be conspicuous retconning and unpersuasive ... but, he keeps saying all these criminal activities he was actually behind for the past three films were all motivated entirely by his childhood grudge against Bond, over and over again until the torture scene starts ... there is no single discrete line that could be removed to make it all better, if we are to accept this film at all we have to swallow all this revisionist backstory

    perhaps in the next film they can halfsalvage it by Blofeld being shown to have lied about his motivations, just to mess with Bond
    i.e. he was still behind QUANTUM and Silva, but because these were lucrative criminal enterprises ... then while he had Bond where he wanted him, he deliberately lied about his motivations just to wind him up, because he knows CraigBond is a bit unbalanced, overemotional, and sensitive to the Vesper issue , so he was deliberately pressing the right buttons to hurt him, psychological torture ... after all, he literally drills into Bond's brain one scene later, and he replays the video footage of Mr Whites suicide to mess with Swann (and the implicated Bond), so sure, he also makes additional extravagant claims just to make Bond feel bad: retconning the retcon could be simple here
    the fosterbrother thing however could not be so easily undone, I think there is dialog between Moneypenny and Bond establishing the relationship before the crater HQ sequence, and the "cuckoo" remark would not make any sense if they did not really have that childhood relationship


    anyways, given the intractable knottiness of the Blofeld-is-my-brother thing, that leaves the major bulk of the film unwatchable, and the ideal fan-edit therefor would be just the pre-credits sequence, that was pretty damn good
    Blofeld's motivation in SP was so pathetic. He did ALL that just because of a childhood grudge like 40 years ago? seriously? Atleast I can grasp why Silva would become mentally hell-bent with revenge against M.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,421MI6 Agent
    Ever since first seeing it in the cinema I refused to believe the Blofeld - Bond connection and in my head I accept it as Blofeld messing with Bonds head. When I first realised what the writers had done I though " they didn't just do that?" " they bloody well did just do that!! "
    I enjoy the film a lot, I think I've just got used to the glaring potholes and the writers treating us all like idiots. Remarkably qos was the last film who's story and script wasn't completey riddled with such issues. I would hate to see mendes return as I think he has done the franchise and dc no favours in the long term.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • jim78jim78 Posts: 30MI6 Agent
    It's just another example of the childish, sophomore writing infesting the Bond movies of the modern age. QOS is headache inducing to watch for me but it's the only Craig film that isn't riddled with obvious, immature or just plain illogical scriptwriting...probably because its so short. Everyone wants to be Nolan nowadays. They seem to forget that, unlike them, Nolan has talent.

    Look at The Dark Knight. The main characters were all linked through the thematic thrust of the film, not through contrived, obvious writing.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,421MI6 Agent
    I have issues with Nolans batman trilogy also, the first two were excellent, the last one I just didn't enjoy as much. It seemed to be retreading similar ground to other films in terms of context, the whole reluctant hero who's getting too old for this kind of thing, who then comes back.... It's been done to death and I'll never forgive mendes for taking the reboot and throwing it in the bin and turning bond into an ageing agent and piling on the personal inter connected story arks and bond constantly going rogue! Enough already, if the writers can't come up with an exciting original bond adventure by using its rich history and revisiting the novels without all this personal stuff then they should be replaced.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,555MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I have issues with Nolans batman trilogy also, the first two were excellent, the last one I just didn't enjoy as much. It seemed to be retreading similar ground to other films in terms of context, the whole reluctant hero who's getting too old for this kind of thing, who then comes back.... It's been done to death and I'll never forgive mendes for taking the reboot and throwing it in the bin and turning bond into an ageing agent and piling on the personal inter connected story arks and bond constantly going rogue! Enough already, if the writers can't come up with an exciting original bond adventure by using its rich history and revisiting the novels without all this personal stuff then they should be replaced.

    This is the reason I want to see Craig replaced. I like him as Bond, but if he comes back for one more, it will just be more of the same. Bond rogue. Personal connections. Waltz's awful Blofeld. Nothing good can come from another Craig Bond other than the fact my expectations will be so low that it can't disappoint me.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,421MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I have issues with Nolans batman trilogy also, the first two were excellent, the last one I just didn't enjoy as much. It seemed to be retreading similar ground to other films in terms of context, the whole reluctant hero who's getting too old for this kind of thing, who then comes back.... It's been done to death and I'll never forgive mendes for taking the reboot and throwing it in the bin and turning bond into an ageing agent and piling on the personal inter connected story arks and bond constantly going rogue! Enough already, if the writers can't come up with an exciting original bond adventure by using its rich history and revisiting the novels without all this personal stuff then they should be replaced.

    This is the reason I want to see Craig replaced. I like him as Bond, but if he comes back for one more, it will just be more of the same. Bond rogue. Personal connections. Waltz's awful Blofeld. Nothing good can come from another Craig Bond other than the fact my expectations will be so low that it can't disappoint me.
    I think DC deserves a proper mission, and I'd love to see him finish off his bond tenure with one. The film that should have followed qos maybe ? just because it's Dc doesn't mean we can't have an independent mission movie. The mission M gives him at the end Sf?
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • RemingtonRemington CAPosts: 239MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I have issues with Nolans batman trilogy also, the first two were excellent, the last one I just didn't enjoy as much. It seemed to be retreading similar ground to other films in terms of context, the whole reluctant hero who's getting too old for this kind of thing, who then comes back.... It's been done to death and I'll never forgive mendes for taking the reboot and throwing it in the bin and turning bond into an ageing agent and piling on the personal inter connected story arks and bond constantly going rogue! Enough already, if the writers can't come up with an exciting original bond adventure by using its rich history and revisiting the novels without all this personal stuff then they should be replaced.

    This is the reason I want to see Craig replaced. I like him as Bond, but if he comes back for one more, it will just be more of the same. Bond rogue. Personal connections. Waltz's awful Blofeld. Nothing good can come from another Craig Bond other than the fact my expectations will be so low that it can't disappoint me.
    I think DC deserves a proper mission, and I'd love to see him finish off his bond tenure with one. The film that should have followed qos maybe ? just because it's Dc doesn't mean we can't have an independent mission movie. The mission M gives him at the end Sf?

    Agreed. In SP, Bond should've been on a mission for Mallory from the start. When Denbigh shows up, M could've told Bond to continue the mission off the grid. This would have gotten rid of Moneypenny being a mole and the postmortem message from M. Blofeld should have been just Blofeld. The only ties to the previous movies should've been the new MI6 regulars. And MI6 would've been repaired, not still in ruins.
    1. Connery 2. Moore 3. Dalton 4. Brosnan 5. Craig 6. Lazenby
  • jim78jim78 Posts: 30MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I have issues with Nolans batman trilogy also, the first two were excellent, the last one I just didn't enjoy as much. It seemed to be retreading similar ground to other films in terms of context, the whole reluctant hero who's getting too old for this kind of thing, who then comes back.... It's been done to death and I'll never forgive mendes for taking the reboot and throwing it in the bin and turning bond into an ageing agent and piling on the personal inter connected story arks and bond constantly going rogue! Enough already, if the writers can't come up with an exciting original bond adventure by using its rich history and revisiting the novels without all this personal stuff then they should be replaced.

    I have issues with The Dark Knight Rises too, but when that mans on fire he's on fire. I can say that about his Batman franchise, but I can't say it about the latest Bonds. TDKR is to The Dark Knight what Return Of The Jedi is to Empire Strikes Back IMO, but even Casino Royale isn't everything people say it is.

    I also hate the way Bonds always going rogue. I can buy submarine cars and underground lairs, but I can't buy an agent whose been given a license to kill who doesn't respect the chain of command, I also cant buy an M who has an agent vetoed to kill who she doesn't seem to trust like what happened in the earlier Craig films, it just weakens both of their characters. There's no tension there, only contrived drama that makes them both look unprofessional. Bonds supposed to be doing it for Queen and country. Bond does despicable things, the only way the audience has of justifying what Bond is is that he's doing it for a greater good. Between Bond going rogue ( which is a cheap cop out to do it in in mulitiple films, it smacks of laziness. By the numbers screenwriting of what they think the audience loved about an earlier film ) and him being personally interconnected to everything but Moneypennys hatstand ( Blofeld telling Bond he was behind Silva means that retroactively, in Skyfall, Bond was the true target, not M ) they've turned Bond into a soap opera character, burdening him with illogical, badly written nonsense that they are going to have a hard time writing him out of. Still though, once the magic is all but gone they'll change tack and, if their smart, we'll get another reboot.
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,383MI6 Agent
    OHMSS
    LTK
    DAD
    CR
    QOS
    SP

    All have Bond going rogue in it. I too agree that Bond should be obeying a bit more.
    “The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
    -Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
  • jim78jim78 Posts: 30MI6 Agent
    OHMSS
    LTK
    DAD
    CR
    QOS
    SP

    All have Bond going rogue in it. I too agree that Bond should be obeying a bit more.

    Especially in Craigs films since their all interconnected. His character is too erratic to make sense ( much like soap opera character ).
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,394MI6 Agent
    jim78 wrote:
    OHMSS
    LTK
    DAD
    CR
    QOS
    SP

    All have Bond going rogue in it. I too agree that Bond should be obeying a bit more.

    Especially in Craigs films since their all interconnected. His character is too erratic to make sense ( much like soap opera character ).
    Yeah Craig's Bond is a lousy employee. Its amazing how he remains employed since he quits or goes off the grid in some form in every film.
  • jim78jim78 Posts: 30MI6 Agent
    Was Blofeld trying and, at the same time, not trying to kill Bond in his other films? What exactly was the danger to him? If Blofeld was responsible for everything why wasn't he given screenwriting credit on all of Craigs films? Thats the only way I can think of that he authored everything. It doesn't make any sense any other way.

    Films need internal logic for me to buy into them.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,522MI6 Agent
    OHMSS
    LTK
    DAD
    CR
    QOS
    SP

    All have Bond going rogue in it. I too agree that Bond should be obeying a bit more.

    You left out SF. Playing dead is kind of like going rogue, even though he's not doing anything. But kidnapping M and going off the grid is also going rogue.
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  • zaphod99zaphod99 Posts: 1,405MI6 Agent
    OHMSS
    LTK
    DAD
    CR
    QOS
    SP

    All have Bond going rogue in it. I too agree that Bond should be obeying a bit more.

    Not sure that I'd count OHMSS int he list. He was on assignment and then tries to resign. M knows and countenances his actions by granting leave of abscence. It's unofficial, but not quite rogue in my view
    Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 2,222MI6 Agent
    zaphod99 wrote:
    Not sure that I'd count OHMSS in the list. He was on assignment and then tries to resign. M knows and countenances his actions by granting leave of abscence. It's unofficial, but not quite rogue in my view
    I believe at the end, M denies Bond support to rescue Tracy, which is why its Draco's gang that actually makes the assault on Piz Gloria
    the book is a bit different in these details, does he not carry out the whole infiltration on his own time?
  • James SuzukiJames Suzuki New ZealandPosts: 2,383MI6 Agent
    Yes sorry, it was a rough list, trying to remember all the times. It gets difficult in the Craig era because it can be so willy-nilly
    “The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
    -Casino Royale, Ian Fleming
  • RemingtonRemington CAPosts: 239MI6 Agent
    Is there a pros and cons topic for SP?
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    1. Connery 2. Moore 3. Dalton 4. Brosnan 5. Craig 6. Lazenby
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 587MI6 Agent
    Remington wrote:
    Is there a pros and cons topic for SP?
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    Pros- Monica in her basque

    Cons- everything else.
  • RemingtonRemington CAPosts: 239MI6 Agent
    sniperUK wrote:
    Remington wrote:
    Is there a pros and cons topic for SP?
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    Pros- Monica in her basque

    Cons- everything else.
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    1. Connery 2. Moore 3. Dalton 4. Brosnan 5. Craig 6. Lazenby
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